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Greetings Dramatards :marseywave2:

Last time I was covering the sinking of the Oceanos, where a cowardly captain attempted to flee a sinking ship from the South-Eastern shores of South-Africa, and where heroic gigachad :gigachad: :gigachad: passengers stepped up to the occasion to save their fellows during an extreme storm.

Well I was made aware of a similar situation which had occurred upon the shores of South-Korea, where another cowardly captain and crew literally jumped ship to save themselves at the expense of their charges. This time however, the outcome would be substantially more grim, whereas the Oceanos rescue was a stunning success which resulted in the saving of literally every single passenger with zero fatalities, the sinking of the Sewol Ferry was horrific, resulting in over 300 deaths, most of them school-children as a school trip was booked to an island off of the coast of Korea during that unfortunate day.

The Sewol Ferry sinking is also SUBSTANTIALLY more dramatic and absolutely r-slurred than the sinking of the Oceanos, because of the unbelievably absurd degree of preventability there was involved in the needless loss o life, and the systemic levels of ineptitude shown by literally every single government body/agency and individual involved.


When I first researched this unholy shitshow this weekend, I would binge every single youtube video made by foreign Press regarding the event, and I had thought to myself: hey these are pretty good mini flash-documentaries covering the events of this absurd manmade neglect disaster, (here are some of the 1st documentaries I viewed)

28 minute documentary from the New Yorker:

27 documentary from Coffeehouse:

And on and on, there are like 10 or 12 of these documentaries by youtubers or news organizations which cover various aspects of the disaster, the shitty rescue attemps, and the aftermath:

BUT OOOOOOOOOOOOOH NO. The more I read, the DEEEEEEPER the rabbit :marseybunny2: :cute: :cute: :cute: hole kept sinking.

Dramatards, the depth of depravity, incompetence and stupidity involved in this disaster is near bottomless, it's lower than shark-shit :marseyshark: :sharkyheart: shade at the bottom of the sea abyss.

Like just one of these 25-50 minute documentaries simply didn't capture the absolute 3rd world :marseyflagsouthafrica: response that the Korean coast guard, and all authorities involved had regarding the greatest non-rescue ever in modernity.

So welcome dramastrags :marseygigaretard: :marseyretardchad: and let's go down this never ending hellish :marseyalice: :marseycheshire: :marseycheshire4: :marseycheshire2: :marseycheshire3: rabbithole together :marseyviewerstare:


WHAT IS THE SEWOL FERRY:

The Sewol Ferry was a passenger and cargo transport ship which made 3 trips per week from the harbor of Incheon to the Island of Jeju - with each one-way 425 kilometres trip, taking about 13.5 hours to complete.

The Sewol would frequent Teju Island, the largest of South Korea's islands, and a popular tourist destination for Koreans themselves. Teju island has been described as the Hawaii of SK.

https://www.onthegotours.com/blog/2023/08/jeju-island-in-south-korea-a-perfect-group-tour-destination

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047070238595486.webp

Teju is that big island directly South of SK. The Sewol would take trips between the island and the western coast of SK, meaning the children onboard would constantly be within range of cellphone service of the mainland. While the 13-14 hour trip is long, the ship is outfitted like a cruise ship. While not nearly as luxurious as the Oceanos, it was still a ship with many amenities and comfort. There were dorm rooms, bunk beds and convenience stores, so for high-schooler standards, this was living the high life. :marseycool2: :marseycool:


DATE OF DISASTER: 16 April 2014, Wednesday.

The Ferry would be boarded at approximately 9:pm on 15 April 2014 (at night), but the disaster would not strike until the trip was almost over, and the ferry was near Teju island 12 hours later. The idea was that the the students would sleep during the long boring journey, eat breakfast, and basically arrive at the Island at about 9-11AM.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047068419826007.webp

At the moment of disaster, there had been 476 passengers onboard the Sewol Ferry. Most of those were High-School students, with most of those high-schoolers being from the same school, the reason being that they were on an annual field-trip organized by that school. (Danwon High School in Ansan City)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28519921

It is because there were so many highschool students simultaneously on the same ship booked, that parents were alarmed that many of them were bombarded with abnormal and cryptic messages from their children declaring their love for their parents or shouting their peril at the ship capsizing.


It is this moment which had made the Sewol Ferry sinking especially famous internationally - that parents of these schoolchildren, told them to follow the guidance and instructions of the crew and authorities. The korean words for "Do what they say" would become a famous negative-meme, meaning that instead of a joke a lot of koreans after this disaster would discuss this event, and the implications that korean culture had upon the extreme discipline in which korean youth were expected to obey their parents, their elders and all authority figures. Korean youth would "negative-meme" this phrase of "do as they say" whenever discussion would arrive about whether it was a neccessity to docilly obey authority and elders in all matters of life.

The reason this moment and this negative-meme of "do as they say" has such particular resonance with modern koreans, is that effectively that all those passengers, and especially school students who obeyed the following demented commands of the cowardly Sewol captain would end up drowning; and all those who disobeyed, would end up alive and rescued. This is especially galling considering that a similar event occurred in 13 Feb 2003, when a subway train caught fire, and the moronic and cowardly conductor would order his passengers to stay put, in wait of rescue, when, and you guys guessed it, the conductor himself fled for his life just like the cowardly Sewol Ferry captain would! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daegu_subway_fire

Even worse still, amongst the found footage of those who drowned, were cellphone footage of students discussing their doubts about the unease they felt in obeying the captain's orders of staying put - and that they verbally expressed their instinctual fear that the similarity to the Daegu subway disaster in which only those who disobeyed demented orders were the one who survived - and yet still was their compulsion to obey seniority that they still were amongst those who drowned.

For the parents, this would be especially traumatizing and they would mention to foreign and local interviews the incredible guilt they felt for telling their children to obey authorities, not realizing that their faith in the crew and gov authorities were misplaced due to the following peerless levels of ineptitude. Haggard looking korean parents would express remorse for not telling their dead children to ignore stupid orders, and flee for the top of the ship, instead of remaining in their cabins as the Captain of the Sewol had ordered all passengers, before the frick himself would GTFO from the ship.


SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS:

It's important to note that he Sewol Ferry is more cargo ship, than passenger liner. Apparently 75% of profit was made from transporting trucks to Teju island and back, with ferrying passengers as a side-gig effectively. (Don't worry we'll get to this image later :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: )

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047068424797502.webp

But the point is that it wasn't just school students on this specific trip, there were other passengers going to Teju island on their own honeymoons or whatever, and a lot of truck drivers whom would get off of the dock at Teju, them come back at the end of their routes to continue transporting supplies. Many of these same truck drivers would aid in saving the weaker children.


FERRY BEGINS LISTING:

(For those of you whom don't know ships, Listing when a vessel takes on water and tilts to one side.)

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korea-ferry-disaster-timeline-of-events-0

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1704708007246506.webp

At some point at 8:50AM passengers hear a loud BAND reverberating through the ship, and 10 minutes later the ship would begin listing to the left 30 degrees.

Ever heard of the words Ballast-water? :marseyexcited: :marseyexcited: :marseyexcited: Now this is something I never knew about! :marseyfluffy: :marseyfluffy: :marseyfluffy: :marseyfluffy: :marseyfsjal:

Now you'd think that a 30 degrees Listing would mean instant capsizing for a ship, but ships of the scale of the Sewol are built with what are known as ballast tanks. Ballast water is water carried in ships' ballast tanks to improve stability, balance. The idea is to act as counterweight to the motion of a ship, improving its balance!

However, the cargo of the ferry: the trucks and vehicles transported by the Sewol was NOT tied down. Meaning that as the ship began listing, all of these vehicles would be swept in the imbalence and flung to the left side of the ship, thus overwhelming the counterweight of the ballast tanks.

All ships need a low center of gravity, the lower the better, as top heavy ships swing and list from site to side in extreme weather and swells, and are more exposed to tipping and capsizing, the ballast tanks aid this as well.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047080074658961.webp

Well guess WHAT?! The r-slurs of the Sewol crew had not pumped enough ballast water into the inner chambers in order to save time and speed :marseygigaretard: :marseygigaretard: :marseygigaretard:

Thus the center of gravity was at the top of the vessel, and the near empty ballast tanks could not counterweight the listing :marseydeadinside2: :marseyitneverbegan:

Why no ballast or near empty ballast tanks?? So they could load more cars :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: they got rid of the ballast water so that they could make room for the fricking extra cargo

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2995313

So the vicious circle keeps going, the more the listing, the more vehicles keep slamming to the left, listing the ferry beyond salvation.

Thus the crew begin to realize the ships is going to unavoidably capsize.


1ST EMERGENCY CALL BY STUDENT:

When very massive vessels like the Sewol lists or sinks, it isn't always immediately obvious to passengers, in the same way in which excessive airplane turbulence is when the plane is for a certainty going to crash.

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/27/world/asia/ferry-south-korea-teen-remembered

The first emergency call was made by Choi Duk-ha, a Danwon High School student aboard the ferry, who immediately understood the danger, and was suspicious of the ship's intercom continious telling the students and passengers to "stay in their cabins, it was dangerous to venture outside; wait for rescue". The crew of course knew the opposite was true.


HECK BREAKS LOOSE: KOREAN COAST GUARD IS INEPT

At about 9:07AM the Sewol crew finally tells the SK coast gaurd that they are in deep shit, and that the ferry is unstoppably listing. However these clowns :marseyclown3: call in so many different agencies and authorities, that they cause intense communication chaos.

The SK Coast guard would also lie to the media and SK people, that when they received the mayday from the Sewol, that they were not aware that near 500 people were on board - this specific lie would cause massive fallout later, we'll get to that!

The coast guard tells the Sewol crew, that any passengers must put on life-jackets. The Sewol for some fricking reason tells the coast-gaurd back that their announcement system was broken, which we know in hindsight would be a massive lie as student's cellphones were recovered after their deaths with the repeated anouncement to stay put :marseywut2: :marseywut2: :marseywut2: why on God's green earth they would lie about this is WTF :marseywtf:

Just like the Oceanos the crew would have no communication with passengers, to tell them the situation or cause of the listing, only the anouncement was the sole communication the crew would ever do with their passengers!

The coast guard on the radio would say, ok butthole, well if the PA system was broken, fricking go tell your passengers to put on their life jackets, and whoever was on the walkie-talkie that moment was like "eeeehhhhhhh" then he walks around taking a smoke, jerking off to the sunset, walking around for a bit, and came back to the walkie-talkie and said that they had told the passengers to put on their lifejackets, evidence from the recovered cellphones would prove THAT HE DID NOT DO THAT WHYYYYYY :marseywtf2: :marseywtf2: :marseywtf2: :marseywtf2: He just straight up lied to the coast guard he had taken list of the passengers and personally saw to them - hoooollly smokes it just gets worse and worse from here on out


So at this point, whichever low level drone is at the helm of the coast gaurd communication (is actually the only competent guy in this equation), tells the Sewol captain and crew to unfrick themselves, and prepare quickly, a rescue helicopter is 1 minute away, and another search and rescue boat is like 5 minutes away, get passengers ready for rescue. :peterrunning: :peterrunning: :peterrunning:

And our boi, the 69-year-old Captain Lee Joon-seok, goes full r-slur and replies: "bro that's no enough to save everybody, there's more than those vessel's capacities" :marseyretard2: you know as if that matters , fricking who cares.


So at this point the passengers are still being told to stay put. As the ferry was sinking, it became clear that it would be inverted. The 1st people to be rescued........was the captain :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: and some of his senior crew. Sounds familiar to the Oceanos???

https://nypost.com/2014/04/17/25-dead-in-south-korea-ferry-disaster-as-captain-remains-cagey

https://abcnews.go.com/International/deeply-ashamed-ferry-captain-abandon-ship/story?id=23357650

Here is a Youtube video of the cowardly cuck fleeing the ship, and being the literal 1st to be rescued from a nearby coast guard boat:

And oh yeah, notice something?! He wore ORDINARY CIVILIAN CLOTHES!! He deliberately disguised himself! :marseypearlclutch: i did personally was not aware of this specific one detail prior to researching this shitshow!

I repeat: he deliberately disguised himself as a passenger :marseyitsallsotiresome: Once he was rescued, he made zero attempt to help, and basically fricked off. He relayed no information about the cause of sinking or the amount of passengers and their whereabouts on the listing ship. He just straight up fricks off....

https://www.rokdrop.net/2016/03/30/picture-of-the-day-most-hated-man-in-korea-appears-in-court

"f there is something oddly familiar about the news that the erstwhile captain of the ill-fated South Korean ferry—which capsized and sank just a few hundred meters from dry land—botched the evacuation order and jumped ship before his passengers were safe, it's because we've heard about this sort of maritime cowardice before. It happened in 2012, when Italian captain Francesco Schettino rammed his Costa Concordia luxury cruiseliner into the rocks off Giglio island. He, too, was among the first off the ship well in advance of the bulk of the passengers."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-koreas-ferry-disaster-gives-us-a-new-cowardly-captain-to-hate

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308311151626.webp

Captain cuck is currently one of the most hated men in all of SK. When the depths of his depraved conduct and cowardice slowly leaked down the grapevine of news and gossip, the entire SK media would blow up in outrage.


Sewol's captain under fire for fleeing sinking ship:

https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/633440.html

"News that the captain and crew of the Sewol passenger ferry fled the sinking ship early on rather than helping passengers is generating an angry reaction among from family members and the South Korean public.

Of the crew members, only 22-year-old Park Ji-young gave up her life vest to stay with the passengers - at the cost of her own life. One student said of her, “If she hadn't have been there, I don't know what would have happened to me.”

Evidence that surfaced on Apr. 17 indicates the Sewol's chief engineer told several crew members to evacuate, even as the captain was broadcasting a message for passengers to wait until further notice."


LAST MOMENTS FILMED BY DROWNED VICTOMS:

There were several reccorrdings recovered from the dead student's cellphones where they could clearly be heard pronouncing their confusion: why must they put on their Life-Jackets and also stay put in their cabins like the PA announcement system was repeating on auto?

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308309315164.webp

Their confusion, first starts with lite joking, and eventually turns into sober horror, as the realization that the situation with the tilting was becoming a threat to their lives. The most comprehensive evidence was of students on the 3rd floor of the Sewol Ferry.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1704730830579706.webp

By the end of this footage, many students start proclaiming that they do not wish to die, and begin messaging their family/parents with messages of asking forgiveness for past fights, and that they love them, ect. It is from these horrifying messages which freaked out the majority of the 250 students from the same high school, to which about 500 parents would organize a trip to Teju Island, to find out what the frick was happening with their children.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/heartbreaking-video-shows-students-as-ferry-sinks-mom-i-love-you-1.1801051


KIDS CONTINUE TO OBEY PA SYSTEM UNTIL THEIR DEATHS:

In spite of their instincts and fear, the schoolchildren would still continue to obey the instructions of their parents to obey their seniors, and most would remain put within the ferry, even as the ship continued its listing and eventual capsizement over the next hour.

CBS NEWS Youtube video showing; teenagers were slow to grasp their dangerous situation; some kids could be heard joking they were in the titanic, and even jovially singing to cope with the pressure:

BBC Youtube video of youngest person saved from ferry; both her parents and brother would drown; SK would ask for any family to come forward and claim her; one distant uncle would luckily come forth:

Additionally in the videos, the school children will remark from the recovered footage, that they smelled something bad, that they smelled something like boiled eggs - they were smelling gas escaping the

The hyper discipline of their children makes them place false hope in their seniors, and fully believe up until their drowning that the authorities know what they are doing, and follow the instructions of their parents.


Oh yeah, and the horror keeps compounding - there were not enough lifejackets, so many students sacrificed theirs for their younger peers, and some truck drivers would give theirs to children.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/04/22/305830690/as-korean-ferry-sank-some-crew-members-fought-to-save-lives

One passenger, Koo Bon-hee, 36, told the wire service "that there were not enough life jackets for everyone in the area on the third floor where he and others waited. So crew members — two men and two women — didn't wear any so that all the passengers could have one."


SOUTH KOREAN MAINSTEAM MEDIA DECEIT:

SK mainstream media is and was extraordinarily corrupt, and would lie to citizens over many things. Things would come to climax in the Sewol Ferry sinking fiasco, and the absolute shamelessness of SK mainstream media could cause a massive rift between the citizens of SK, and their trust in the gov and news.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-KRTB-5797

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308304089386.webp

Mainstream media had started reporting that all passengers had been rescued from the Ferry as it was still tipping over with 300+ passengers still inside, and had given many of these SK parents whom had received horrifying and cryptic messages from their kids about saying goodbye, and that they were dying, were giving these parents false hope that their kids were safe ! :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe:

In the following months, as the media circus was dug through by people, and the SK public began to systematically uncover the heaps of lies that the mainstream SK media told everyone, including the parents, questions would be asked as to WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY :marseyyikes: why would they fricking lies about this? Lie about kids and passengers having been saved from the ferry in those critical 2 hours as the ship was capsizing??

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308302491033.webp

It would come down that President Park was a massive bully and would go to extreme lengths to bully mainstream media outlets in SK who even remotely critisized her administration. So feared was president Park, that many mainstream reporters and producers were basically used to just straight up lying in emergency situations, to make her Administration's response to stuff like this Ferry sinking disaster, as positively as possible, before she even demanded. (We'll come back to this)


Tanwan highschool parents were given a false sense of security.

However, despite this deceit, the parents began immediately noticing discrepancies within the false reporting of everyone being saved from the Sewol. They could not phone or reach their kids, they became aware thatt many other parents had also received cryptic and alarming messages, and soon pooled information between each other on WhatsApp groups and so on.

Additionally, horrifyingly, the parents would notice an anomaly similar as to Kraut citizens during the 2nd World War being fed propaganda about how good the Eastern Front campaign was going, meanwhile the locations of successful battles kept creeping closer to Berlin....

Similarly, these parents would notice that at 1st the reporting kept changing from ALL the passengers had been successfully rescued, then MOST of the passengers, and then.... you get the idea as the media adjusted their bullshit as the failing rescue operation was producing more corpses.

Then later it was reported 150 passengers out of 475, how many passengers have been rescued you frickers??? How the frick is the reported passengers being rescued LOWERING? :marseywtf:


PARENTS TRAVEL AS GROUP TO CHINDO ISLAND:

Chindo Island is a tiny island, nearest to the sinking. And from where the rescue operation was being undergone.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308317605276.webp

Because they can't trust the media, and the parents basically organize a 1000 person trip immediately to the Chindo Island, and book acommodations and hotels, as well as venues for gathering. The PARENTS are organizing all of this, as the coast guard nad rescue authorities are all incompetent bumblefricks.

https://www.fairplanet.org/story/sewol-ferry-tragedy-the-fight-for-the-truth-we-want-to-know-why-our-children-had-to-die

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308298468547.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308300523832.webp

So dramatards hear this shit, the rescue operations heads, and coast guard had brought these giant white boards with lists of names of the rescued written on them. And the giant gymnasium venue which the parents organized as a meeting conference place, quickly turns into chaos as the parents jostle to get to the front and see whose child is fricking safe. But of course these are propaganda names, lied about by the SK media to make the Park Admin look good.

So the parents quickly realize they are being lied to and become enraged. Here is Youtube video of parents lashing out at authorities.

They scream at the gov goons who had callously written these names of survivors on the whiteboards, and ask where the frick their kids were, if they supposedly were saved?

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1704730829635266.webp


The parents finally become so incensed at the lack of coordination of the coats guard, that they fricking hire their own boats to go to the sunken ferry, they are enraged at the lack of fricks given by the gov officials, whom apparently are just passive about the prospect of hundreds of people currently under threat of drowning.

https://news.sky.com/story/ferry-disaster-parents-hire-own-rescue-boats-10409326

========(from article)

Parents of missing teenagers aboard the stricken ferry off the coast of South Korea have been hiring rescue boats to join the search overnight. Many relatives stared out to sea, huddled in blankets, sobbing, as hopes their loved ones would be found alive faded.

Others expressed their anger, claiming that the rescue operation was botched and choosing instead to go searching themselves.

The father of one missing child could not bear to wait.

Advertisement

He and 10 other parents paid 61,000 won (£35) each to hire a boat to take them to the scene, along with a local reporter and a diver.

"There was no rescue operation going on," he said on his return to Jindo.

"We clearly saw there is none. What they were doing at the time was stopping the oil spill. I'm extremely angry.

"The media says the rescue operation is still going on. It's all a lie. It makes me so furious."

======(end quote)

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308294913664.webp

At this point it's fricking night time, and the parents are going in a frenzy at the authorities not telling them squat, and with the mainstream reporters being useless ad unhelpful. There appears to be no hurry when the ferry is already nearly on its side and its obvious people are trapped with no way of getting out.

Only Newstapa was willing to work with parents and not lie to them or the public, and majority of footage came from them.


THE "RESCUE":

The entire rescue was an ongoing shitshow. And despite media lies, most passengers were not being successfully rescued.

The thing that most angered the SK public, after the disaster, was the sheer ineptitude of the SK authorities during what was dubbed the "Golden hours", the 1st two hours after the Ferry began capsizing, and when it was entirely feasible to save everyone.

In those precious moments the coast guard and Park Admin kept repeating moronic requests of seeing a visual feed of the tilting ferry, instead of giving out deceisive commands for rescue operation. They kept asking moronic questions :marseyretard3: :marseyretard3: :marseyretard3: about whether the situation was serious, to which the helicopters and patrol boats would reply: yes butthole this is serious, the fricking ship is sinking, and on and on they would waste 90 fricking minutes with this r-sluration.

https://apnews.com/article/70fc61f2fecc459cb2220ee859a0849b

Rescue officials then missed a series of opportunities to save most of the people until the ship fully submerged underwater at 11:50 a.m.

The coast guard, which received a distress call from the ferry's crew shortly after the ship began to drift, was required to guard the waters that the Sewol passed through with at least one large patrol vessel.

But on the day of the sinking, the only vessel nearby was a small patrol boat whose nine-member crew was woefully undertrained and lacked basic communication equipment.

The boat did not arrive at the Sewol until 9:30 a.m. Rescue workers then wasted further time with indecisiveness.


SK COASTGUARD IS INDECEISIVE AND USELESS:

By this point at about 09:00AM to 09:30AM there would be like 3 rescue helicopters just circulating around the tilting ship, not being helpful, only like 3 passengers had been saved, and they had climbed upon the deck of the ship all on their own.

The rest of the patrol boats are just standing there drifting, with their peepees in their hands. Because there had been no centralized command given by the Park Administration, and because not central authority had taken first step, all of them are just loitering there being useless frickwits.

All of them are waiting for the park admin to give specific orders, instead of taking deceisive action, and the Park admin in turn is sitting on their thumbs waiting for "video of the incident" before even making a decicion! :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: and worst of all is that Prez Park would be missing AWOL for at least 7 hours, unavailable to give commands, and many gove beaurucrats are to cowardly to take initiative in case something goes wrong, and they shoulder the blame,

so everyone there onsite are waiting for someone else to fricking take initiative, so they they would be the one in charge and thus responsible for any possible negative fallout. So everyone is just fricking standing there like imbeciles, waiting for each other!!!!


Remember the US Navy vessel nearby? USS Bonhomme Richard was nearby and had immediately notified SK coast guard they were available for assistance. The USS Bonhomme Richard is a vast amphibious assault ship, with a crew of over 1800 men. At that time they had a full complement of marines capable of rescue operations.

The ship was a semi-aircraft carrier and carried several helicopters capable of advanced search and rescue operations, SK told them to take a hike - this truly was the most needless loss of life in modernity.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047308293982.webp

https://web.archive.org/web/20140416192004/http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/04/16/uss-bonhomme-richard-heads-to-capsized-south-korea-ferry.html?comp=700001075741&rank=3

The rescue teams only made token efforts to save any people which had already already come to the surface, or were climbing themselves on top of the deck in their bright orange lifejackets.

To make matters oven more dysfunctional and utterly 3rd world, was that the coast guard vessels, and the helicopters hovering above the ferry were communicating to sepparate entities, some were in contact with the Park Admin, while others deferred to the local cost guard authority, and yet others to the provincial and national coast gaurd authority!

https://time.com/3572092/south-korea-coast-guard-ferry-disaster

https://maritime-executive.com/article/South-Korean-Coast-Guard-Disbanded-2014-05-19

Park has been hit hard by an angry nationwide outcry over the government's response to South Korea's worst civilian maritime disaster in 20 years and the seemingly slow and ineffective rescue operation. Park said the coast guard had not only failed in its search and rescue duty but that, in its current form, it would be unable to prevent another large-scale disaster.

"The coast guard continued to get bigger in size but did not have enough personnel and budget allocated for maritime safety, and training for rescue was very much insufficient," she said.

Basically compared to the Burgerland Coast Guard, the SK CG was a dysfunctional shitheap. They had no central authority, and local and provincial juristictions made many of their patrol boats redundant or badly lead. There was zero coordination between local, provincial and national authorities. Nobody knew what in frick they were doing :marseydeadinside3: :marseydeadinside3: :marseydeadinside3:


MAINLY CIVILIAN BOATS AID IN RESCUE:

To further compound public anger in the wake of this needless catastrophe, would be footage of civilian boats from local fishermen performing fricking better than the coast guard patrol boats and rescue helicopters just idling like fools waiting for orders. These small vessels would daringly and valiantly brave the danger of coming close to an almost capsizing ship, and pick up passengers jumping in the water, or trying to pull of passengers from the rails of the deck.

Once again a glaring similarity between this and the Oceanos, where civilians strived to the occasion to show heroism, while sailors sat with their thumbs up their asses. :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed:


ROK AGAIN DECLINES AID FROM JAPANESE COAST GUARD AND US-NAVY VESSLE:

https://japantoday.com/category/national/officials-vague-on-rumor-japanese-support-was-refused-for-s-korean-ferry

When the Sewol ferry was sinking, it would be near instantly mayday'd to all surrounding vessels, including vessels just seeing the slowly capsizing ship. Both the US and Japan would be aware of the disaster unfolding the moment the ferry began tipping, and would offer their aid immediately.

The Republic of Korea would decline, to merely save face, and would lie that the majority of passengers had already been rescued, and that they supposedly were already being rushed to shore.... :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed:

So here we were in the Golden Hours where practically everyone could have been saved, the coast guard helicopters and patrol boats no nothing, the Park Admin is unavailable, everyone is waiting for everyone to initiate and take responsibility, and the US Navy keeps contacting SK to offer aid, and repeatedly gets told to buzz off.

It is theorized that Prez Park is an immensely arrogant individual, and was to proud to ask burgerland for aid, in the aspect that SK would look weak and incapable of even rescuing their own people, and had to beg for help.

https://www.cherrypoint.marines.mil/News/Article/525496/search-and-rescue-marines-stay-ready-through-constant-training

Burgerland Navy vessels are so well equipped, and marines themselves are required to be strong swimmers, as they are highly specialized aquatic infantry whom must be capable of advanced doctrine like island hopping and beach landings.

https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/3201523/us-navy-rescues-mariners-from-burning-vessel-in-gulf-of-aden

While not as proficient as burger Coast Guard, they still have a strong doctrine of practicing civilian rescue operations at sea.

MEANWHILE!!! :marseywoozy: :marseywoozy: :marseywoozy:

The SK coast guard was at that time ESPECIALLY badly equipped for rescue operations. They effectively existed as glorified patrol boats, to protect the SK coast from Chinx :marseychingchong: :marseychingchong: :marseychingchong: fishermen from depleting their shores. They had little experience in actual recue operations.

Which is why additionally, so many patrol boats didn't take the initiative, most of them were incompetent or untrained in rescue missions, and was fearful their ineptitude would be exposed when they fricked up publically.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317663726_Bureaucratic_Accountability_and_Disaster_Response_Why_Did_the_Korea_Coast_Guard_Fail_in_Its_Rescue_Mission_During_the_Sewol_Ferry_Accident

https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/658695.html


COAST GUARD LIES ABOUT NOT KNOWING THAT SEWOL FERRY STILL HAD PASSENGERS INSIDE:

The SK coast guard would try to cover its butt for being so stunningly fricking 3rd world in their "rescue" attempts, that they gave public statements that they believed that all passengers had in fact evacuated, and that they didn't know there were people still inside drowning.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17047259159126897.webp

Thus they were not at fault for not ordering an evacuation, or participating in an evacuation measure. But proof of their lies were in the form of the students having called their parents about the sinking ship, and most infamously the emergency 1st call made by Choi Duk-ha about the listing ferry at 8:52AM so everyone knew they were lying through their teeth :marseycringe: :marseycringe: :marseycringe: The kid even gave the exact location of where they were sinking at Chingo island.

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/27/world/asia/ferry-south-korea-teen-remembered


CIVILIAN RESCUE DIVERS AND PARENTS WHO RENTED BOAT ARE SCREWED BY COAST GUARD: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed: :marseybeanannoyed:

On 16 April 2014 when the parents whom had hired a boat to travel to the capsized ferry, they found confusing and conflicting orders and measures from the moronic coast guards. Some said that civilians could enter the cordon around the Sewol, but the coast guard could not :marseyhelp: :marseyhelp: :marseyhelp: :marseyhelp: :marseyhelp: what/??

The coast guard were completely unhelpful to the civilian divers, they would prevent civilians from doing any help. When fishermen tried to break the windows still exposed above the surface live, in the hope of rescuing some of the students, the sk coast guard would stop them, claiming it was too dangerous.

Meanwhile when the ferry had finally capsized, and was hanging upside down, the coastguard would not go down in the 1st day with divers to check up upon any survivors, which further enraged the parents, and fishermen.


WASTE OF OPPORTUNITY:

Now the ferry just like the Oceanos was sinking very very slowly. By 10:00PM (that evening) about 15 hours after the ferry had listed, then capsized, but was semi-drifting with its butt above the waterline.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1704720107405647.webp

Sometimes when ships capsize, they capture large airpockets in which crew can survive for hours or days more. There was a statistically and historical likelyhood that many students and other passengers were likely still alive, and capable divers like the men in the Thai Cave incident would have been able to retrieve them. But once again the SK coast guard didn't even make an attempt the entire 1st day.''

The parents would see during the night of the 16th that the coast guard do jackshit the whole night!! Parents would shout at the coast guard from their hired little boat, at 12 oclock midnight to fricking go into the ocean and dive!


COAST GUARD LIES ABOUT DIVING OPERATIONS:

But the SK coast guard didn't want to admit they did not have the competency and experience to do rescue divers, but to save face :marseychingchongitsover: :marseychingchongitsover: :marseychingchongitsover: they could not admit that, they had to shift blame or pretend that another department had to have the responsibility of the incident.

So everyone of these differing departments are just waiting around the capsized ferry, not wanting to expose their incompetency, but also wanting to save face, and we have this absolute r-slur moment of SK coast guards just driving around the ferry not doing anything, meanwhile parents on that hired boat screaming at them to do their effing job.

The mainstream media and coast guard claimed that they were doing diving operations on TV, but the parents could fricking see with their own eyes throughout the night, them doing nothing. The parents would record on their phones the inaction, and send footage to all mainstream networks.


PARENTS THROW WATER BOTTLES AT MINISTER IN ANGER: :stoningdownvotes: :stoningdownvotes: :stoningdownvotes:

All of these mainstream reporters would lie about this farce of no rescue operations being conducted by the coats guard, all because they were under the threat of the Park Admin, they all were too cowardly to literally report the truth, so as to not make her admin look bad.

Because of this the parents would form their own close knit group, on WhatsApp, and would coordinate information to bypass the lies of the Park Admin gov officials, and the coast guard.

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20140417000784

========(FROM ARTICLE)

Prime Minister Chung Hong-won made a visit to a gymnasium in Jindo to console the families of victims of the sunken ferry in the early hours of Thursday, only to be attacked by angry parents.

Parents of the students onboard the Sewol ferry shouted, threw objects, and pulled clothes from the prime minister.

Chung made the visit to the gymnasium in South Jeolla Province, just hours after returning from overseas tours to China and Pakistan. Family and friends of those who went missing in the sinking are waiting in the gymnasium for news of their loved ones.

Chung apologized repeatedly and tried to leave the gymnasium, as tension escalated, but dozens of parents blocked his way and surrounded him.

Some family members threw water bottles and empty cans at the prime minister.

On Wednesday, around 250 parents staged a protest at Danwon High School in Ansan, Gyeonggi Province, demanding a list of passengers who had been rescued after conflicting news reports about the survivors.

========(end article)

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/24/world/asia/south-korea-ship-sinking/index.html

=====(from CNN article)

Angry relatives of missing South Korean ferry passengers cursed government and police officials Thursday for failing to do enough to save the lives of their loved ones as hopes dim of finding any survivors.

The relatives berated Fisheries Minister Lee Ju-young and two coast guard officials, accusing them of misleading the public about the operation and of wasting time.

“How can you fool us into believing you were out there trying to save our children?” one mother yelled at the officials.

=====(end article)

The minister had to be escorted out with the aid of police, otherwise the parents were literally trying to rip the guy to pieces with their bare hands.


PREZ PARK ARRIVES:

The parents had reeled in their anger when next the President had visited the gymnasium, in the hope that she would see the corruption and incompetence of her underlings, and would come and help save the day; :marseysad2: :marseysad2: :marseysad2: :marseysad2: unfortunately she would also spark the ire of the parents, with another canned response about the gov doing all it can ect ect, when the parents could see with their own eyes the complete absence of effort the gov and coastguard were doing to save their kids!

They would end up shouting her down as well, when her coast guard master chief straight up lied about having as many as 500 divers attended the operation last night to try and save the people still trapped in the ferry, the parents raged as this shameless deceit on public media, as they themselves had spent the previous night trying to shout the idle coast guard patrol vessels into action to no avail!!

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1486407/president-park-geun-hye-faces-angry-parents-south-korean-ferry-victims


ATTEMPTS TO INJECT OXYGEN INTO AIR POCKETS FAILS BADLY:

By the 2nd day of the sinking, it was decided that air needed to be injected into the capsized ferry, in case any survivors were struggling to breave and were still alive

Problem! :marseyfacepalm: :marseyfacepalm: :marseyfacepalm: :marseyfacepalm:

The fricking entire SK Navy and coast guard didn't have the tools or experience to do such an operation. Once again the very capable US Navy vessel USS Bonhomme Richard offered their aid and expertise, and once again our proud Korean frickwits declined, and lied that they had everything under control :marseyfacepalm: :marseyfacepalm: :marseyfacepalm:

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/16/world/asia/air-pockets-south-korea-survivors/index.html

So they had to bring in private sector diving companies. The companies quickly tender for whom could achieve this, and a company called Undine Marine Industries Co is selected. They bring giant funnels and airpumping machines, but this group is incompetent and proceeds to also frick it up :witheredricefarmer: :witheredricefarmer: :witheredricefarmer: They are not trained for water operations as they claimed, and the air injection proceeds disasterously.

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20140430001220

====(from above article)

Undine Marine Industries Co., the company leading the search for the Sewol's missing, is turning up more controversy than results.

Undine has been leading the search for the Sewol's missing, which now stands at 90, since April 17, the day after the ship sank off the coast of Jindo Island, South Jeolla Province.

Undine, however, has not only taken the center role in the painfully slow search but also in the growing controversies stemming from the tragedy that has so far generated a confirmed death toll of 212.

=====(end quote)

The US Navy with all their mega spy drone :marseydrone: :marseypredator: :marseyobama: shit or whatever they use to spy on their allies, are completely aware of this continious frickup of the Koreans, and offer their specialized aid for A THIRD TIME :marseyraging: :marseyraging: :marseyraging: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: and SK declines again :marseyitsallsotiresome:

Eventually it would be found that no air pockets remained by the time the company

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/south-korea-ferry-disaster/south-korea-ferry-disaster-no-air-pockets-found-doomed-ship-n87326


1ST CORPSES RECOVERED BY CIVILIAN DIVERS:

By the 3rd day the 1st drowned corpses were recovered by civilian divers, doing the job for the coast guard. This body recovery would be a monumental and traumitizing undertaking for the civilian divers. These civilian divers were very valiant in their undertaking, and many would spend 2-3 months away from home and family to aid in bringing home the bodies of kids to their grieving parents.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sewol+ferry+civilian+divers+recover+bodies&rlz=1C1CHBF_enZA1072ZA1072&oq=sewol+ferry+civilian+divers+recover+bodies&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg5MgYIAhBFGDkyBggDEEUYOdIBCTEwODU0ajBqNKgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

The recovery took an extremely long time, as the situation was very precarious underwater, and beneath the still hanging capsized ferry. The ferry was disintegrating as walls, and furniture would continiously fall from the upside-down Ferry, a great deal of debris had to be manually removed by hand, before the divers could even enter the darn ship. Hallways were very cramped, and divers could get easily stuck in the mazelike interior of the vast ship.

These divers had to very slowly and incrementally place guiding ropes, lights, and ventilation tubes for air to be pumped down to where they worked for hours and hours underwater to excavate corpses. If these ventilation plastic tubes accidentally knotted or got caught on an obstruction, the divers would choke to death from lack of air supply, it was a perilous undertaking.

https://nypost.com/2014/04/25/divers-recover-bodies-in-freeze-frame-of-panic-at-ferry-site

The bodies found by divers showed many schoolchildren having hugged each other upon death, and had tied themselves into a fish-knot, thus forcing divers to untangle the children, before transporting them through windows, and to the surface.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2016/7/27/a-divers-pain-living-with-the-ghost-of-sewol-tragedy

Another diver was so traumatized on being forced to carry the bloated dead with his bare hands, that he had developed a phobia on touching the skin of other humans, including even that of his wife and child.

And lastly to compound the grimness of this undertaking, one diver would end his own life.

https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/748728


THE SOWEL FERRY COMPANY UNDER INTENSE SCRUITINY AND FIRE :

So with so much anger and grief within the SK public, amplified by the parents whom were front and center of TV wailing about their dead children, anger mounted in SK for the culprits and causes of this catastrophe.

https://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2014/05/06/2014050600343.html

=====(from article)

The ferry disaster off the southwest coast has put the spotlight on the ways in which Korean society often sacrifices safety and reliability for faster, more immediate gain.

The ferry operator, which blatantly flaunted safety rules for the sake of squeezing a few extra won from the business, is a textbook example. Chonghaejin Marine ignored passenger safety because the revenue from fares was relatively small compared to the money it could make from cargo.

Overloading had become routine. At the time of accident, the ferry carried a whopping 3.7 times its cargo capacity of 978 tons. It was more like a cargo ship that grudgingly permitted a few passengers on board, and then abandoned them to their fate the moment something went wrong.

In order to squeeze more cargo on board, the ferry had discharged the ballast water aimed at providing balance, thereby causing the tragic accident.

The operator also hired Lee Joon-seok, a 69-year-old man well past retirement age, on contract for a monthly pay of W2.7 million, to scrimp on the average pay of W3.06 million for coastal ferry crew. An official with the Ministry of Oceans and Fisheries said, "It must have been hard for Lee to feel any kind of responsibility in such a low-paying job."

And despite the ship's age the operator added more decks to accommodate more passengers, which rendered ferry's center of gravity dangerously high. :marseydeadinside3: :marseydeadinside3: :marseydeadinside3: :marseyscream: :marseyscream: :marseyscream: :marseyscream:

========(end article)


COMEDY OF ERRORS:

So to summarize this chain-reaction of r-sluration :marseygigaretard: :marseygigaretard: :marseygigaretard: the ballast tanks have been emptied to make room for extra weight in terms of cargo, so that the company may make more money on the Ferry's circuit.

The crew was sloppy and inept, and didn't tie down ANY of the vehicles of trucks, leaving them vulnerable to being thrown about during and listing. The ballast tanks were also nearly empty, providing no counter weight :marseyfacepalm:

The Ship had been modified with passenger compartments, by adding 3 new deck levels, thus raising the ship's center of gravity much higher than its original design intended for, all so that the company may make additional money from passengers, as a side-gig, in addition to transporting goods and vehicles.

But it gets worse, and the r-sluration :marseyretard2: :marseyretard2: :marseyretard2: keeps going and going.

Remember how the ship had begun listing in the 1st place? Well you guys won't believe the reason. You see this specific vessel was known to be unbalanced because of its new higher center of gravity, and crews had been instructed to never turn it more than 5 degrees when steering.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/05/04/south-korea-ferry-was-routinely-overloaded/8686733

For some reason the incompetent would in fact steer the Sewol more than 15 degrees in turning, causing imbalance, which ignited the keg of events which cascaded into the eventual capsizing. :carpfacepalm: :carpfacepalm: :carpfacepalm: WHYYyyy they did it is believed to be mere incompetence. This specific ship was just that crappy, and could not oversteer.

So the unsecured and untied cargo and trucks all begin sliding to the left, which begins the vicious circle of listing, and the ballast tanks cannot correct it, and slowly the whole ship just ends up sinking. All the hard smashing of vehicles breaks holes and openings into the lower hull, and water begins leaking into the ship.

ALSO https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/10/world/asia/sewol-ferry-accident.html

Did u guyz know that ballast water isn't just one singular compartment, they are all separated into sub-compartments, just like subreddits :marseyclueless: :marseyclueless: :marseysnoo: :marseysnoo: There's multiple tubs in these type of vast ships, usually placed strategically on forward, backward, left and right positions, so that water can be pumped between these sub-sections by pumps located between each sub-compartment, thus allowing the crew some measure of fine tuning the balancing or counter acting rough weather if the ship rolls too much of one particular side, allowing correction.

In a functional ship, with a competent crew, these pumps could be immediately activated , to counterbalance the ship, in just such an event, as the listing which started on 16 April 2014

BUT, the pumps were broken :carpfacepalm: :carpfacepalm: :carpfacepalm: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :marseyrage: :ragestrangle: :ragestrangle: :ragestrangle: and had remained so for multiple journeys before the fateful capsizing.


NATIONAL GRIEF AND HORROR FOR SOUTH KOREA:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/08/world/asia/south-korea-sewol-ferry-grief.htm

To compound their incompetence, the whole crew was also cowardly, and were the 1st to be rescued after the Sewol Captain. This inspired rage.

Other footage aired on national SK TV, showed traumatizing footage too hardcore for even WPD.

Here are female students seen on tape throwing chairs at windows to try and break them, coast-guards can be seen SEEING her, and doing frick-all, and remaining stationary.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616663/Heartbreaking-footage-shows-South-Korean-ferry-passengers-trying-break-windows-reach-rescuers-moments-vanishing-beneath-waves.html

For the South Koreans this singking was a really big deal, it was a capstone event, because on average SK is a very meritocratic high-functioning society. :marseyflagsouthkorea: :marseyflagsouthkorea: They have little theft, violent crime or dysfunction as we have here in South Africa :marseyflagsouthafrica:

If I had read this story having originated from RSA, I would not even have been surprised, but SK public is not used to these spectacular 3rd World levels of corruption, incompetence, and petty stupidity. And the 300 dead upon the Sewol Ferry was the fault of multi-intitutional failure which many koreans were not used to. The gov was inept, the coast guard was inept, the media was inept, the local officials was inept, it was a cascade of r-sluration :marseymocking: :marseybrainletclapping: :marseyawardretard: and systemic failure on every level.

And it would shock the South Koreans to their core, every bit as much as the trauma and grief would affect them as they wept at the death of 300 souls.


BILLIONARE OWNER OF SEWOL FERRY FOUND EPSTEINED :marseytedbackstab: :marseypedoglow:

As public anger mounted in the wake of the sinking, everything and everyone connected to the Sewol Ferry became radioactive, and koreans would go hardcore in determining who was responsible for what. The Mysterious billionare owner of the Ferry was on that public stoning list. :stoningshit: :stoningshit: :stoningshit:

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/21/world/asia/south-korea-ferry/index.html

====(from above article)

The Sewol ferry disaster appears to have taken another life – this time of the man whom some blamed for the sinking.

Yoo Byung Eun, the subject of an intense, nationwide manhunt who went missing after the South Korean ferry sank in April, was declared dead, police said Tuesday.

Yoo's body was found decomposing in a plum field by a farmer on June 12. Police used DNA and fingerprints to positively identify him.

Prosecutors believe Yoo, 73, and his sons controlled the shipping company that operated the deadly ferry. The ferry that capsized, killed 294 people aboard, including hundreds of high school students who were on a field trip. More than three months after the incident, divers are still searching for bodies, with 10 people missing.

Yoo, through his representatives, vehemently denied any connection to the Chonghaejin Marine Company in late April. His defenders, including members of his religious group, maintained that Yoo, a businessman and religious figure, was made into a scapegoat for the tragedy.

Much of the blame has fallen on Sewol's operators who were accused of prioritizing profits over safety in an investigator's interim report this month. The report found that Sewol had carried double the amount of cargo allowed and that the heavy load had not been properly secured. They also found that the vessel had been licensed on falsified documents.

Manhunt

For months following the sinking, Yoo defied summons to report to the prosecutor's office for questioning. Yoo was wanted for questioning with an investigation into alleged funds embezzlement, tax evasion and other irregularities that prosecutors say could have contributed to the sinking.

Wanted posters including possible disguises for Yoo popped up. Even South Korea's president, Park Geun-hye weighed in, accusing Yoo's family of “mocking the law and causing public rage.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/28/world/asia/sewol-yoo-manhunt

With nearly 8,000 police officers dispatched on the case, the inability to find the septuagenarian became another source of controversy. But the search ended Tuesday when police announced Yoo's death.

The cause of death is still under investigation, said Woo Hyung-Ho, the police chief of Suncheon, the city where Yoo's body had been found. Police could not determine when he had died. The body was decomposed.

=====(end article)


AFTERMATH FOR NATION:

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/18/world/asia/south-korea-coast-guard/index.html

The entire complex of Korean coast guard would be disbanded due to their systemic failure to save lives, with much approval from the angry public. However Prez Park would only do this in a desperate attempt to shift attention away from her and her administration. :marseyunamused: :marseyunamused: :marseyunamused:

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/28/asia/sewol-ferry-captain-jailed-murder/index.html

The Sewol ferry captain would be jailed for murder of 304 passengers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/11/south-korea-ferry-verdict-sewol-captain-sentenced-to-36-years-in-prison

And sentenced to 36 years imprisonment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/07/world/asia/employees-of-south-korean-ferry-operator-are-arrested.html

4 of the senior crew of the ferry were arrested, and sentenced.


HUNDREDS OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARRESTED:

"The Sewol disaster raised questions regarding governmental regulation of shipping in South Korea. Shipping is regulated by the Korean Shipping Association, which is also an industry trade group, something experts consider a likely conflict of interest. In addition, government regulators outside the Association frequently move to jobs as part of the association after their government service."

https://associationsnow.com/2014/04/association-officials-arrested-south-korean-ferry-tragedy

Hundreds of these shipping officials, regulators and inspectors would be arrested and imprisoned for taking bribes in overlooking serious safety standards involving the Sewol Ferry.


FERRY CLAIMS LAST VICTIM:

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/21/world/asia/ferry-vice-principal-funeral/index.html

====(from above article)

Kang, who was vice principal at Ansan's Danwon High School, was rescued from the sinking Sewol ferry.

Just two days after the accident, he was found dead after apparently hanging himself using a belt from a tree in the city of Jindo. In a note, he expressed regret he had survived while so many others had died. :marseytabletired2: :marseytabletired2: :marseytabletired2: :marseytabletired2: :marseytabletired2:

Kang's body had been found Friday in one of the small mountains near the Jindo Gymnasium where bereaved families are taking shelter, according to local police. He had gone to Jindo with the school in an effort to support families, said one fellow educator.

“As the one in charge of the safety of the students, he was suffering from guilty feelings,” another teacher had told Korean media. When some familes directed their anger at him, he became “brokenhearted.” :marseytabletired: :marseytabletired: :marseytabletired: :marseytabletired:

=====(end)


CONSEQUENCES FOR PREZ PARK :marseychingchongitsover: :marseychingchongitsover: :marseychingchongitsover: :bobateagirl:

President Park faced so much heat for this incident, that koreans would be walking in the streets, protesting and demanding her resignation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-27176844

The Korean Prime Minister Chung Hong-won, would resign after immense pressure from the parents and the public, due to his mishandling of the Ferry disaster. But the heat would only stop where the buck ended, at prez Park's feet.

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/29/world/asia/south-korea-ferry-sinking/index.html

"The web of blame in the South Korean ferry sinking is getting wider, and now the country's president is accepting some of the heat. President Park Geun-hye apologized to the nation Tuesday over the government's initial response to the Sewol ferry tragedy."


WHERE WAS PARK???

Questions began to arise about Prez Park's absence :marseydisintegrate: :marseydisintegrate: :marseydisintegrate: during the critical 1st 7 hours after the ferry began sinking. The public would speculate where Park was, and why she was unreachable for her underlings to give clear orders to the coast guard and whoever.

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20180329000933

====(from article above)

The '7 hours' mystery

The former President's whereabouts on the day of the Sewol tragedy had been a controversial topic even while she was still in office. In spite of repeated public demands, the presidential office at the time refused to provide a clear explanation of why she had not been briefed in person on the accident for about seven hours, until she showed up at the disaster control center at about 5:15 p.m.

Her staff at the time only insisted she was attending to “official duties” at her residence in Cheong Wa Dae on the morning of the disaster. They did not offer any additional information, despite the families' demands for details on what Park was doing for the seven hours on the day of the ferry's sinking.

=====(end)

People were claiming she was on mega aids drugs, or beset with some mystery orgy ceremony, because she was part of some batshit :marseypentagram: :marseypentagram: :marseypentagram: :carpwitch2: :carpwitch2: :carpwitch2: :marseyblackphillip: :marseyblackphillip: :marseyblackphillip: :marseydorothy: :marseydorothy: :marseydorothy: cult, which I could only try and summarize as the korean equivalent of Scientology?? :marseyhmmm: :marseyhmm:

Anyways point is this was mega controversial in Migookland :marseyitsoverwerebackchingchon: :marseyitsoverwerebackchingchon: :marseyitsoverwerebackchingchon:


FERRY SINKING LEADS TO PREZ PARK'S IMPEACHMENT :marseymugshot: :marseymugshot: :marseymugshot:

Mass protests against president Park would follow in the months after the Sewol Ferry sinking. Prez Park began to rapidly lose popularity and support from her voters and supporters, and her political allies began abandoning her.

Asians are pretty organized and disciplined protestors !!! :marseyflagsouthkorea: :marseyflagsouthkorea: :marseyflagsouthkorea:

These demonstrations would go on for weeks, and according to the organizers themselves, about 1.5 million protestors would walk the streets of Seoul for months!

They are really amazing at protesting! No riots or property damage, looting or abject random violence, go SK!! :marseyflagnorthkorea: :marseyflagsouthkorea: :marseyflagnorthkorea: :marseyflagsouthkorea:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/27/former-south-korean-president-park-geun-hye-faces-jail-term-corruption-case

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1704730702398272.webp


Anyways that's all I got, good night :marseysadcat:

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Greg Abbott Declares War on Feds

OK well, that's not exactly what it says, but it is VERY dramatic. Kiwifarms just posted this in Happenings, and I didn't believe it was real, but here it is right on the governor's website.

Here are some fun quotes:

The federal government has broken the compact between the United States and the States. The Executive Branch of the United States has a constitutional duty to enforce federal laws protecting States, including immigration laws on the books right now. President Biden has refused to enforce those laws and has even violated them. The result is that he has smashed records for illegal immigration.

James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, and the other visionaries who wrote the U.S. Constitution foresaw that States should not be left to the mercy of a lawless president who does nothing to stop external threats like cartels smuggling millions of illegal immigrants across the border. That is why the Framers included both Article IV, § 4, which promises that the federal government “shall protect each [State] against invasion,” and Article I, § 10, Clause 3, which acknowledges “the States' sovereign interest in protecting their borders.” Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387, 419 (2012) (Scalia, J., dissenting).

The failure of the Biden Administration to fulfill the duties imposed by Article IV, § 4 has triggered Article I, § 10, Clause 3, which reserves to this State the right of self-defense. For these reasons, I have already declared an invasion under Article I, § 10, Clause 3 to invoke Texas's constitutional authority to defend and protect itself. That authority is the supreme law of the land and supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary. The Texas National Guard, the Texas Department of Public Safety, and other Texas personnel are acting on that authority, as well as state law, to secure the Texas border.

So, the question here is, IS IT HAPPENING?

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TL;DR - SPAL leaks messages with @R-slur_but_spooky where they discuss their mutual intentions to keep fricking @TED_SIMP after she implies to each party that the other had r*ped her.

DISCLAIMER: I offered both @R-slur_but_spooky and @TED_SIMP to come on the show and share their side of the story, of which they both declined. The offer is still open if they are so inclined. I also made sure to scrub any names that were shared, other than SPAL, who freely uses his name. If I somehow missed something, PLEASE let me know right away and I'll scrub it.

Today, we'll be exploring a cautionary tale of the E-girl and the destruction she leaves in her wake. This will be a story of r*pe allegations, of a love triangle gone awry, of the consequences of simping, and most importantly of a man being banned from a gay cat gossip forum.

Let's start with the catalyst for this situation. R-slur messages SPAL (who I will be calling sirp because I already wrote these as notes for my show lmao) with a hard hitting question - did he r*pe Ted?

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sirp responds with proof that they were meeting up again and nootices a discrepancy - Ted had told him she was r*ped in February. Something isn't adding up :marseynooticeglow:

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R-slur responds, confirms that they fricked in February, shows the message Ted sent to him about being r*ped in August

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Sirp puts on his thinking cap - Ted has alleged that she was r*ped to both of them at different times. Something isn't adding up.

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R-slur asks for a timestamp and reveals that there is a 3rd man who warned him that Ted has a habit of r*pe claims. WHO IS THE 3RD MAN???

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sirp asks if they were dating, posts him confronting ted about this conversation.

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Group chat between the 3 is formed. Ted proceeds to sperg out at them for nooticing she lied to them, vows to cut ties forever (spoiler: she did not).

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Ted leaves the conversation, the Sirp and R-slur get down to business. The 3rd man is mentioned again.

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They continue on to compare notes, the most pressing matter of which is what Ted's body count is lmao

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Sirp talks about how good she is in the sack, R-slur talks about how she always blocks him but he finds a way back in over groomercord. Sirp then says he'd like to continue fricking her despite the light r*pe allegations and that he's happy to share her. Very progressive and polypilled :marseypolyamory:

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R-slur agrees and says he keeps in his back pocket for ez kitty. Proceeds to say he never uses condoms, which enrages Sirp, who is extremely worried about contracting STDs. Sirp asks for R-slurs name to level the playing field.

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Sirp continues to ask for R-slurs name after getting told no, ted claims that R-slur freaked out last time she fricked another guy

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Sirps asks one more time for name, is rejected, asks if R-slur can tell Ted that he's sorry and to please talk to him again. R-slur asks what he said to upset her, Sirp accuses her of having a r*pe fetish. She spergs.

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R-slur claims that Ted seeks out getting r*ped as a form of self harm and that Ted thought r-slur would r*pe her when they met up. Explains why he got mad at her, which totally had nothing to do with her fricking other guys.

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Sirp worries that if she gets r*ped too much, she will contract an STD that she could then pass to him. Rather than opting not to frick the woman who lies about r*pe, his solution is to use a condom and take PREP. Sirp and R-slur vow to help each get back into Teds good graces, R-slur laments that he's blocked on everything by Ted

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They vow to reconvene, R-slur considers not talking to her anymore. Spoiler alert: He continues talking to her. Sirp once again impresses the importance of safe s*x upon R-slur.

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R-slur laments that a mid woman is boring to talk to and contributes nothing to their conversations. They both lament that Ted won't be their long term FWB because she's too boring. The 3rd man has also complained to R-slur about this.

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Sirp reveals that he knew she wasn't the one when she wouldn't read the substack articles he wrote and sent her. R-slur laments that she was going to move to his area and didn't because he wanted to frick her more.

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Sirp states that fricking a bpd e-girl brought back his confidence post-divorce, decides to be happy it happened instead of sad it ended (spoiler alert: it didn't). R-slur talks about Ted having a meltdown after he suggested they don't talk about literally nothing all the time. Conversation ends.

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THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE E-GIRLS BACK

In a now deleted post, @TED_SIMP called Sirp "Creepy", which led to him posting the leaks that got him banned, which included her underwear photos, first name and job. So you might ask yourself, what led to the dissolution of their FWB relationship?

Well, sirp had referred to her alleged molestation at 9 years old as "prior sexual history" when she attempted to use it to skirt his grilling about why she won't come see him. Two manipulators using their tactic of choice to manipulate each other, and as expected, it ends poorly. As far as I know, this led to the dissolution of their relationship and kicked off the drama we have today.

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THE INTERVIEW

Some notable excerpts from the interview (you'll have to watch it to get it all :marseygrilling2:)

  • I got Sirp to read his entire side of the @R-slur_but_spooky conversation, with some questions thrown in where I deemed necessary. He did not seem ashamed or even cognizant of how cringe his messages were.

  • Sirp alleges that he's not a p-dophile and that it is infact @CARPMASflorist who is a convicted felon and sexual offender. AFAIK this is entirely unsubstantiated - he claims a comment on his most recent substack article backs this up but it leads nowhere for me.

  • Sirp states that his ex-wife was a bugchaser trying to intentionally infect him with HIV and a braphog who was heavier than he is.

  • Sirp states that he is, in fact, still down to hook up with Ted despite everything that has happened. Ball is in your court, Ted!

MY THOUGHTS

ESH :#soyreddit:

This is, ultimately, the story of 3 people who are fricked in the head. @TED_SIMP is an attention seeker who consistently tries to garner simp-athy using her history of sexual assault and mental illness, and whether it's real or not, she knows playing the victim will usually work in her favor. @R-slur_but_spooky is deeply in denial about his feelings for Ted. I actually believe that when he was talking to Sirp, he matched the detached energy to not seem stupid for his feelings. Get some self respect buddy, because she's using you as an emotional tampon. You sperging out and getting angry on her behalf is embarassing and I believe you can do better. Sirp is waaaay to old to be acting like this. If some r-slurs on a gay cat gossip website call you a p-dophile, maybe you shouldn't say things that give them ammo and then sperg out on the BPD chick you were fricking. He dropped the underwear pics and name maliciously, without a doubt. He also did this interview knowing that it would embarass the heck out of both other parties, and probably gets off to it. I'm more than aware of that aspect. This is just too much of a shitshow for me to pass up.

As far as people who will say I've gone too far and am a bad person for inserting myself into this, I don't give a frick about the gay butt e-friendship you've forged over groomercord. I use this website for the lulz and if you're playing friend simulator on here, that is beyond pathetic. That's not to say I don't like some of you people - this is my favorite website, and I enjoy the community a lot - but there is a reason that most of the userbase disdains the groomercord strags. Everyone in this story brought it upon themselves by sperging out on this website, which led me to start sniffing around. If they had just kept their pants on and their mouth shut, this would have never happened - but cows can't help themselves.

Let this serve as a cautionary tale - you can't use a mentally ill woman for easy access to free casual s*x and get away clean. You can't use mentally ill men for easy access to free validation and get away clean. One way or another, it'll all come down on you, and there will be no one to blame but yourself.

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Facebook drama

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093174426137

:marseypopcorntime:

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ITS FUCKINF HAPPENING:marseyfsjal::marseyfsjal: AT LAST, JANNYCIDE IS UPON US!

https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14eppe8/uhhhh_what_the_frick_is_happening_at/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/14ept55/the_entire_mod_team_of_rmildlyinteresting_22m/?sort=controversial

Reddit has initiated the final solution in jannycide.

https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/

https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfrick/

https://old.reddit.com/r/TIHI/

https://old.reddit.com/r/self/

https://old.reddit.com/r/IllegalLifeProTips/

Requests are flooding into redditrequest for the subs.

https://old.reddit.com/r/redditrequest/new/

SRDines discuss

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/14eqtma/apparently_the_entire_mod_team_of/?sort=controversial

It's fricking over for jannies.

Edit: MildlyInteresting jannies Caught a 7 Day Ban

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Edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14eq8ip/the_entire_rmildlyinteresting_mod_team_has_just/?sort=controversial

Jannies might not have just caught a 7 day ban, they might have been locked out of their accounts entirely

Edit: ModSupport thread

https://old.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/14eqom8/entire_subs_are_being_deplatformed_of_their_mods/?sort=controversial

Edit: Admins responded

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Edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/14er5y3/effective_immediately_no_more_nsfw_content_is/?sort=controversial

IOS jannies bend the knee

Edit: There's nothing people who quit reddit like talking about more than reddit

https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65577/Entire-mod-team-on-r-mildlyinteresting-and-more-subs-removed-and#comments

Edit: AwkwardTheTurtle has been suspended on both his main and his alt

https://www.reddit.com/user/awkward_the_turtle

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I guess it's trainposting Tuesday so I better throw my hat in the ring with this delusional little number. Here we have our protagonist /u/wastedchick3n who is a 29 year old transbian programmer (obviously) with a 26 year old disabled wife. With that in mind enjoy some redditors putting some sense into them.

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>Hello! Any tips for seeking asylum for my wife and I? I'm a chef and I also have a degree in computer science. My wife is disabled though and is unable to work. It's become more and more apparent we are not safe here and just yesterday the HRC declared a state of emergency for LGBT people. We have been thinking Canada, Ireland or Australia. Thanks.


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:marseysoylentgrin:>You are American and can move to a blue state tomorrow. You do not qualify for asylum anywhere and you shouldn't be considering trying to take spots away from people who have lost their homes to war, people at risk of being executed for their gender or sexuality, etc.

:marseytransattentionseeker:>Okay I am at risk of being executed based on my gender identity and sexuality where can I go?

:marseysoylentgrin:>To another state. Asylum is usually reserved for people whose country poses a threat, not a more “local” government

:marseytransattentionseeker:>Yes my country poses a threat, I came here for help with moving cause I'm scared not to have my fears dismissed.


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:marseysnoo:>Jesus Christ, who’s ‘being killed left and right’, as you claim?

:marseytransflag2:>Trans people as I stated in the post.

:marseysnoo:>By your government?

:marseytransflag2:>yes

:marseysnoo:>Just to be realistic for a moment: put aside asylum and refugee notions, and focus on more regular ways of emigrating.

You say you’re a chef: is this a skill level with qualifications that might win you sponsorship with a work permit? Or your CS qualification: have you ‘saleable’ experience with that, which might be desirable abroad? I don’t know about your wife, or to what degree her disability would make her medically dependent, and it’s important since many new countries require immigrants to live there a while before public healthcare is available. So it’s your career skills that’ll be the deciding factor: what can you offer that a new country might lack?

(I take it you’ve already exhausted investigation into your ancestry, regarding citizenship entitlements)


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:marsoy2:>Amerikans do not get asylum.

:marseyliathomas:>Why not?

:marsoy2:>Your country is deemed safe, and is not currently a war zone as opposed to some countries in Africa and Middle East.

:marseyliathomas:>It's really not safe, why does no one else see this?

:marsoy2:Are you joking? You do not see the difference between for example the Taliban regime, North Korea or the US?

:marseyliathomas:>So just because one is worse doesn't mean the us is good, people ARE being killed for being trans here


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:marseyeggirl:>What the frick is wrong with you people? I came here for help not to have my fears dismissed because "some people have it worse". People like me are being killed left and right and having our rights and healthcare taken.

:soysnoo:>You're saying that the government is going to execute you. This page is saying that they're declaring an "emergency" over state level legislation. I am gay, I am from the States and I live in one of the countries you want to move to, and I am telling you that saying you should get asylum is incredibly self-centred and ignorant. You have no idea what asylum seekers go through in their home countries OR in the countries they move to. I have housed refugees and I promise you, legitimate refugees would give a kidney to move to somewhere like Seattle.

:marseyeggirl:>Cool so I have to wait till they put us in camps and execute us to be considered a refugee???? Just because people have it worse doesn't mean it's not bad here. God I fricking hate Reddit, this is all I've been dealing with all morning people just insulting and invalidating my fears because "some people have it worse".

:soysnoo:>I know you meant this sarcastically, but

yes. Asylum is not for “some people called me a slur.” It’s for “the government will execute me or put me in jail for 20 years if they find out I’m gay.”

:marseyeggirl:>Which is where this country is headed, theres already states like Florida where I'd go to jail for being trans.

:soysnoo:>You are literally the definition of first world privilege. You just don't see it because you are so indoctrinated by the pervasive culture of fearmongering, a typically American thing. As everyone here has said, move to a blue state, or somewhere like CA/WA - you have options and safe havens available to you. Unlike impoverished black kids from inner cities (yknow, the ones actually being killed left right and center and having their rights taken unlike you) or those from war torn parts of the world.

:marseyeggirl:>I am in a blue state I'm in Washington, that doesn't mean the whole state is blue. I'm constantly called slurs and threatened for being trans. You have no idea what you are talking about.

:soysnoo:>Then go to Seattle or Olympia instead of whatever hicktown you're in. As an American of colour, trust me, we know more than you think.

:marseyeggirl:>Bruh I am in Seattle, it's not as great as you think.


Lmao Seattle is not liberal enough for this :marseytrain: :marseyxd:. There is a little bit more drama in the post but I got most of the good stuff. It might be a troll but the account history seems genuine, I want out is a goldmine for this stuff.

Have a good work week everyone!!!

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:!marseypatriot:HAPPY 4TH OF JULY TO ALL AMERlCANS:marseypatriot:

KlLL YOURSELF ALL FOREIGNERS :#marseyscoot:

:marseysaluteusa::marseypatriot::mars#eylibertyfireworks::!marseypatriot::!marseysaluteusa:

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EFFORTPOST KEYED EFFORTPOST :marseybased: The story of Lowtax

Rdrama.net is, for many of us, a very special place that is unlike the rest of the Internet. It has the soul of the old web, and it's own brand of humor that can't be found anywhere else. The site's main jannie, Carp, is genuinely hilarious and adored by the community. Despite the constant shit flinging and sneeding, there is a deep feeling of unseriousness here that is refreshing in a world that takes itself too seriously.

This article is not about this gay butt site, however, it's about another site that took the internet by storm in the early 2000s and was the genesis of many extant aspects of Internet culture. It's the story of the man who made it possible, and how his internet fame ruined him.

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In November of 1999, a man by the name of Richard "Lowtax" Kyanka, a dropout from Vanderbilt University, would get fired from his job as a quake gaming journo for making fun of an old r-slurred coworker of his. With his newfound free time, he would begin to write articles and publish them on his fancy new website,

SomethingAwful.com.

SA began as a sort of ripoff of Maddox's "best page in the universe" with edgelord articles being posted nearly daily to the front page. SA had a forum where readers could comment on the articles, and it quickly drew a large following of the early denizens of the Internet, which were mostly neckbeards and edgelords. In a few short years, the forum had become more popular than the front page, with a very active community of "goons" that would create content in the forums that would feature on the front page. In 2002, Rich began charging users a $10 fee to access the forums, and the users obliged, as the fee deterred trolls and stupid children from pooping up the site. You also had to pay 5 bucks for a profile pic, but you could anonymously spend 5 bucks to change another users pfp as well, which was funny. Lowtax also banned l33tsp33k on the forums and required people to write in complete sentences.

The community became a massive success, and eventually grew to over 100,000 users. Memes, raids, "let's play" videos, and even 4chan were born from SA. Lowtax was making six figures just off of registration fees, and at this point, was still in his 20s. He had money, time, and a massive community that loved him. What could a man with so much potential do next?

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Lowtax decided to start banging the female users of the site, known as "Goonnettes." In 2005, he got one of them pregnant and got married to her shotgun wedding style.

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In 2006, Lowtax would have a year that would begin the downward slope of his life. Two major events would change his relationship with the site.

In March, Lowtax posted a thread to "General Bullshit," SA's general discussion board, talking about a particular brand of juice that he liked. It was a brand of "Mangosteen" juice (A mangosteen is a small purple fruit from southeast Asian btw). The users quickly realized that this was an affiliate marketing link and teased Lowtax, who reacted by throwing a temper tantrum, calling everyone cute twinks, and then deleting the post and banning everyone that made fun of him. This really soured many users of the site to Lowtax, who before this time was seen as a lovable goofy site admin.

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Things got worse later that year when Lowtax would publicly accused a shitty movie director named Uwe Boll of being a child molester. Uwe had been organizing an event to box the critics of his shitty movies, and asked Lowtax if he wanted to box him. Lowtax agreed, and the two would meet in September of that year, in a shitty events center in Vancouver. Lowtax would get his butt kicked in this event, which would stream to 7000 viewers (which was unheard of in 2006. he would then sneed in the parking lot after the event in a post fight interview.

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Between this incident and the Mangosteen debacle, Lowtax would post much more infrequently to the site, as he wasn't really able to live those two things down. He would begin renting a shitty strip mall office, which would be the HQ for SA. He supposedly rented the space to run the site, write articles, and make content with animator and best friend, Shmorky. Usually though, Lowtax would mostly go there to get high and stay away from his wife, who now had two children with him.

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Lowtax's wife was devoutly religious, whereas lowtax was a neckbeard atheist. As Lowtax spent less time with the family, his wife would begin teaching Sunday school, much to the chagrin of Lowtax. The two would fight about religion, Lowtax's lack of doing anything other than being a drunk r-slur, and the tension would culminate in a physical altercation in 2010. At this point, his first wife would file for divorce.

The site itself, SA, was beginning to lose it's relevancy as other platforms rose in popularity. The company that went on to buy reddit offered Lowtax 14 million for the site in 2007, but he turned it down, as this site was his life's work and the community were HIS people, right?

Back on SA, the makeup of the community had begun to shift dramatically. Starting in 2008, a Kenyan man named Barack Hussien Obama ran for president against crippled war hero John McCain. The goons that supported McCain decided to wager their accounts on the election results, and after McCain lost, many of the goons that supported him (chuds) were banned from the site and never returned.

Then in 2010, a game called Dangan Ranpa released. It's an anime game about murdering teenage girls, so naturally, it was a smash hit with the :!marseytrain:s on tumblr. SA was one of the first places on the web to feature "let's play" videos. Lowtax was pissed that these tumblrites were watching his premium SA content for free, and put the "let's plays" behind a paywall. Tumblrinas needed to buy a forum membership to view the "let's plays," and many of them promptly did and never left. The word ":marseytrain2:" comes from the words :marseytrain: and goon, and originated on SA. There was also a dedicated politics board called "Laissez Faire," but the users from this board would brigade other boards (especially the chud board, "FRICK YOU AND DIE," or FYAD), so Lowtax decided to delete the Laissez Faire which was essentially a leftist containment board) and thus, a somewhat apolitical forum culture was permeated with a leftist political slant that continues to this day.

As for Lowtax, he wasn't doing so good. He had started a shitty gaming channel called "gaming garbage" that never took off. By 2014, registration fees had dropped significantly and would not recover. His site was still running on 2002 era software, and he was too fricked up all the time to really address any issues with it. Also in 2014, Lowtax fired Shmorky, as he was starting to trans out and was doing shit like wearing a cape and a yarn wig and speaking with an extremely creepy high pitched voice. He had a schizo gf as well, and posted a video of her having an actual schizoid attack to SA, which caused the community to disown him.

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In 2016, Shmorky was outed as a diaper furry scat fetishist p-dophile (really) and disappeared from the internet forever (people think he killed himself). Lowtax was beset with anger, as he had allowed Shmorky, a man who was once his best friend and someone he trusted, around his children. He took to the SA forums to talk shit about Shmorky, as he needed the cathartic release of bullying this wierdo, but the users mostly defended Shmorky because he is "non-binary" and if someone is LGBTQIAA+, cannot be made fun of even for being a sick frick.

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Lowtax had realized that he had lost the community that he cared about. These new users were gay r-slurs and not cool and all the real neighbors left long ago. At this point, Lowtax decided to make a change and fix the site, but the rot was so deep it couldn't be cut out at this point. He did weird shit like segregate all the black users to a board called "negrotown." (Lmao)

In 2016, Lowtax would go to Canada to frick another goonnette. While there, he would meet Ashli, his soon to be second ex-wife. He flew her back to his hometown in Missouri and the two would be wed shortly thereafter. Lowtax wouldn't bother to complete her residency paperwork, making Ashli technically an illegal immigrant.

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Ashli was not a goon, but she believed in Lowtax and though SA could be great again. He made her a mod, which pissed off the other mods, but the users seemed to actually like Ashli. She recommended that Lowtax make a patreon to raise money for SA. He already had one, so he marketed it on the forum and was began making like $15k a month from his paypigs (who could give a shit about Lowtax but like using the site.) She really wanted to light a fire under Lowtax's butt, but much like his first wife, found herself caring for a lazy, drug addicted manchild who spent his time and money on dumb shit, like rented sports cars and luxury cakes. He chose to bask in the success of his youth, which had already faded, and a rift began to grow between the two. In 2019, Lowtax would take a "business trip" to frick a 25 year old BPD slut for a month. He would leave his wife and child in the midwest, with no money or car, in the middle of the coldest time of year. When he returned, his house was empty, as Ashli had escaped to a woman's shelter with the help of Lowtax's first wife. Lowtax made an angry facebook post accusing his soon to be ex-wife of kidnapping their child, further drawing the ire from his community. His eldest daughter contacted him asking him what his problem was, with Lowtax telling his teenage daughter to go frick herself. This would be the last time they spoke.

The slut Lowtax hooked up with was a piece of LA BPD trash named Logan Day. She and Lowtax tried to claim repeatedly that their relationship was strictly professional, but the users of SA knew this was bullshit.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16996000462721858.webp

His patreon was bleeding about $1000 a month until he got down to about $7000. Later that year, in july, Logan would accuse Lowtax of hitting her in a strange Facebook post, and by that time, his community was done with him. His patreon collapsed in a matter of days, and he was left with only a couple hundred a month. With mounting legal depth and no more future income, Lowtax had to make a very painful decision. Below is a picture of his patreon:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16996012543191862.webp

In late 2020, Lowtax would sell the site to some twink named Jeffrey of YOSPOS, who was supposedly a crypto millionaire. He got about 400,000 for the site, a bit less than the 14 million he was offered earlier in 2007. Jeffrey would then auction the right to ban Lowtax to a lucky user, and Lowtax, shortly after selling the site, would be banned from his own forums, never to return.

At this point, Lowtax had almost no money, no income, and was in a legal dispute that was costing him thousands. He had lost most of his friends and his family. It was now 2021, and Lowtax was 45 years old with no assets, skills, and with poor health. He turned to doing streams on gaming garbage, his dogshit youtube channel, which would only attract around 12 or so viewers, and he would show up on stream fricked up and incoherent. He did streams where he would eat meat sticks for money, barely making more than a couple hundred at most. https://i.rdrama.net/images/16995980566193175.webp

Below was his last stream, Nov 6th, 2021

On November 7th, 2021, the judge in Lowtax's court case against his ex decided the following:

-Lowtax had deliberately spent the 400,000 in 14 months in order to not pay it to Ashli

-Lowtax had physically, emotionally and verbally abused Ashli

-Lowtax had failed to pay the Guardian ad Litem (this is sometimes required in a custody battle, where the child has to essentially be cared for by the court. The guardian ad litem in this case was named Dana Outlaw, which is a cool name)

-Lowtax told Ashli ahead of time that he was going to move Logan in to the house and expected her to "be OK with that."

-Lowtax was ordered to pay Ashli a lump sum of $92,000 (which had been seized by restraining order so Lowtax couldn't spend that too)

-Lowtax was also ordered to pay Ashli $6,500 a month in spousal support for 2.5 years

Two days later, on November 9th, 2021, Lowtax would shoot himself.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16995980573835328.webp

His death was announced to the users at SA by Kevin "Fragmaster" Bowen, a longtime admin and best friend of Lowtax. His forum mostly dunked on him, and he is remembered for being a colossal piece of shit who stumbled into greatness and squandered it all away.

His family was left with basically nothing. He blew everything on games, luxury $70 pies on goldbelly.com (which is like etsy for baked goods) and rented sports cars. He also spent tens of thousands on mobile games. He also rented his house and had no assets other than something awful, which he had already squandered the proceeds of.

These days, most people don't know who Lowtax is. The only people who currently discuss him are on kiwifarms, and its just to sneed at how much of a piece of shit he was. He really was, too. He left three children and two mothers without a father, and was buried by his mother who was dying of leukemia, and passed away about 4 months after Lowtax did. His oldest daughter Lauren was especially haunted by his death.

He was once seen as a figurehead of internet culture back when it was niche, and nerdy, and kind of a counterculture.

SA is now a dead mall of the internet, with a front page that hasn't been updated in three years.

If you've made it this far, thank you so much for reading this. Today is the 2nd anniversary of Lowtax's death and I wanted to say that I love this site (rdrama) because it reminds me of the spirit of early Something Awful.

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UPDATE #2: It’s time to spam advertisers until we get our way The splash heard ‘round the world :marseyn8:

Perennial rDrama favorite n8thegr8 has fallen, this time not by choice.

It has begun.

:#marseyspez:

How it started:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16869280260375633.webp

Doesn’t look like you got the chance to sit on it til evening fella :marseysmug2:

If you missed the earlier thread where Reddit gigajannies came into the office bright and early on a Friday to TCB:

https://rdrama.net/post/179314/kristallmopt-is-on-as-reddit-corporate



UPDATE #1

Attempts to unbreak a mop lead to broken bucks with broken mops of their own, as rejannying n8 takes out /u/cwenham via the anonymous gigajanny account. Corporate is firing any volunteers who try to revert them :gigachad2:

(read bottom to top)

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16869409975972464.webp



UPDATE #2

On the ropes and forced to reopen lest they be fired from unpaid jobs, the j-squad has a new plan: spam the companies that buy Reddit ads with emails about how Reddit is banning apps that hide their ads:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16869434053291.webp

And some ne’er do well has already notified Reuters :marseysmug3:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686943960031065.webp

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lol

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1710271337436615.webp

behold the master race

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:marseyhappening:EVERYONE WAKE THE HECK UP RDRAMA HAS BEEN CREDITED IN A COMMUNITY NOTE WRITTEN BY YOURS TRULY! :marseyhappening: WE ARE BACK

https://twitter.com/WokeParentLs/status/1728069097349316827

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17009386117148228.webp

also special :marseyretard: thanks to carp for putting this on my TL

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https://twitter.com/benhugh26422354

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16878890249441123.webp

Other exmples:

Eeyore and The Simpsons females stared happily at the celebration of Pride Month.

Eeyore and The Simpsons females laughed at Duncan’s shocking face. I can’t stop laughing at his face.

Eeyore and The Simpsons females felt sorry for Blue, a 3 year old Australopithecus.

I wish I had the making-bad-cartoon-collages kind of autism, it seems like endless joy and entertainment. I bet it's so satisfying to pump out like five of these a day making pretty much the same thing over and over. What a guy.

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Snopes decided to use the missing dead occupants of the Titan submersible to totally not (wink-wink) blame the Elongated Muskrat for the tragedy.

On 20 June, they published an article asking "Was the Missing Titanic Submersible Using Satellites from Elon Musk’s Company?" and rating it "True". Wayback Machine has the record.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874318246593516.webp

There's only one problem - Starlink satellite internet can't penetrate water.

They posted the article on twitter, and the Twittards let them have it, with tons of replies and then community notes.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687431825007296.webp


https://twitter.com/_Faraz/status/1671527385479430144

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874318254655466.webp

We knew that years ago, matey.


https://twitter.com/FroTrades/status/1671528111089885185

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687431825601658.webp

:#marseyhesright:


The richest African-American himself soon piled on.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671525792000425985

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874318257458205.webp


Snopes, had no choice to update the article to "False", with a misleading editor's note to obfuscate their frick-up.

Editor's Note: Since the original publication of this fact check on June 20, 2023, Snopes clarified its rating and text to make clear that — while OceanGate, the company overseeing the submersible's expedition, said it was using Starlink satellites for the trip — the submersible itself was not using the technology to communicate. How, or to what extent, the vessel's mothership was using Starlink to communicate remained unknown.


In a final addendum, The Daily Beast, proving yet again why jourmalists deserve everything they get in third-world countries, published an article to spread that misinformation and cover for Snopes.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874318258918884.webp

Elon Musk used his favorite insult again on Wednesday, accusing the fact-checking site Snopes.com of running a “psy op” after it fact-checked links between the missing Titanic submersible and Musk’s Starlink satellite service.

The article from Snopes merely confirmed that OceanGate, the company behind the missing sub, relies on Starlink for communications on the vessel.

:!#marseyreporterfox: :#marseykyle:

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The Leaves have fallen

Happy Homoween rDrama! Yes, that's right, it is shipping on 10/9 instead of 10/10 as promised. You have been TRICKED in the great Trick or Treat of life. Sucks to suck.

I was tricked too though so this will be a short post as I scramble to get it out the door. Everything is back from last year, including the ZIPOCalypse. For a refresher on ZIPOCalypse mechanics and badges and cash prizes, please refer to last year's thread:

https://rdrama.net/post/117578/zipocalypse-badges-prizes-etc

New badges will be minted in about a week when I am home :star:

Lootboxes are obviously back as well. Remember, these are a better deal than buying awards piecemeal and you get lootbox badges for them, and lootbox badges give you a permanent discount in the shop. You are LITERALLY losing money by not buying them you FRICKING R-SLUR.

A new award, STALKER, will be rolling out soon. Just need codecels to cheer up.

There may or may not be a Blair Witch minigame coming as well. This remains TBD.

I can't believe this is the third one already. This site wasn't supposed to last a month. Well that's all, happy Homoween. :vampb#at:

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Haha just kidding.

As of today, BBBYQ shares have been "cancelled on the Effective Date and have no value", which means that even the former biggest shareholders and people who bought yesterday have as many shares as every other person on earth (none). Many towel apes have finally come to accept that they're bagholders, but as SEARS and other meme stocks tell us, the party (city) never ends!

Because Bed Bath & Beyond sold off the IP to a different company, it can no longer be called 'Bed Bath & Beyond'. It reregistered as 20230930-DK-BUTTERFLY-1, INC -- a name that reveals the intention to let the thing stay dead. Naturally the qanon-type faction of the BBBYQ community has been going wild over this and connecting the dots :marseyschizowall:. Their conclusion: that BBBY will reemerge from its chrysalis as 'Butterfly', they'll be reissued new Butterfly shares, and they'll finally be able to order those lambos they've been window shopping their wives and children will come back to them.

Some choice threads:

The /biz/ BBBYQ general is also pretty good, though it's mostly trolls trolling trolls.

Will the towel apes finally be showered in extravagant wealth next week? No.

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EFFORTPOST Garry Chess promised to admit fabricating posts within 48 hours if I took down mine exposing he wasn’t a real doctor. He hasn’t. DMs inside.

Summary:

Basically every doctor is given something called an NPI number by the federal government. Every state also gives out licenses to work there.

Garry said he went to Harvard, worked in New Mexico as a hematologist/oncologist and also said he had a 5 letter last name. I looked up all hematologists/oncologists who have ever been licensed in NM. (The NPI database shows this, you can search by taxonomy) None with a 5 letter last name went to Harvard. (He was challenging people to doxx him)

Like a month ago I asked him about this. First he said he didn’t have to be licensed in NM as he wasn’t practicing as a doctor, just overseeing the clinic. Then he said he changed his last name so it wasn’t actually 5 letters in the NPI system. Today he claims he was only licensed in CA. Btw maiden names are listed in the NPI database, pretty sure.

This is on top of him lying about donating marrow post cancer (not allowed) & some other crazy things like $100 tires for his lambo, pics of which he won’t post. Think there’s more car drama but wasn’t here for it and idc.

He also said he was terminal with Burkitt’s lymphoma and had 5-7 months but now says he’s in treatment and will go back to work soon (??).

When I called him out earlier he said to look up his former boss at some lab who had an NPI starting with the “T15”. NO NPI STARTS WITH T. They literally ALL start with 1.

I always assumed he worked in a lab but wasn’t a doctor since he has tons of pathology posts (diagnosing disease) and not much about treatment. Oncologists DO NOT DIAGNOSE.

Also I have NEVER EVER heard of someone who is both an ER physician and an oncologist (two separate taxonomies). There are oncologists for ICU/intermediate ICU etc who work at hospitals but they are NOT ER doctors.

He also frequently misspells HIPAA as HIPPA which is a privacy law that you literally see every fricking day even if you’re a secretary in healthcare.

Anyways it just never added up so I made the post, and he made a post saying I was jelly of not being the only cancer survivor (fair). Then he sent me a message asking for a truce.

I asked for proof such as his NPI number. He said no. I said I can’t help u unless I can verify someone with your demographics exists (like 7 letters of last name & oncologist in CA, so not even that specific)

Then I said I would take it down (to get him to confess). He then said would make a post where he admits he “fabricated” some stuff but still say he is a doctor. I gave him 48 hours. He’s doubling down. So now I’m posting again.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1688499463938242.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16884994644467595.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1688499465084382.webp

Original post I deleted:

Garry Chess: Fake Doctor? No hematologist/oncologist with a 5 letter last name has ever been license in NM who went to Harvard

It’s easy to search for yourself.

I asked him about it but it still doesn’t sit right with me, especially after people saying he lies about his cars etc. Garry says his NPI (national provider identifier, every doctor, dentist, PA, etc has one) is under his “old” (?) last name and he’s not licensed as he’s not practicing. The NPPES database includes providers with expired licenses, just FYI, so it’s a very convenient excuse he has changed his last name at some point.

He’s now saying he was licensed in CA and references someone whose NPI allegedly starts with T15. NPIs are 10 digits and start with 1. LITERALLY ALL OF THEM. They do not start with letters.

I think he’s actually a clinical director or similar LARPing as a doctor.

I hesitated to say anything just in case the cancer stuff was real but even that seems to be a changing story….

Idk about the car drama. Someone else can chime in.

Edit:

Lol

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16883410803224614.webp

Edit 2:

Claims to have had Burkitt’s lymphoma 2x but donated marrow after first time.

Click here to see how strict the donation requirements are

That was first thing that got me really sus

Edit 3:

Okay so idk how many of us have gone through chemo but I did at 27 & otherwise healthy and I would almost fricking collapse in Target and have to sit on the bench in the pharmacy or lean on the cart sometimes with sweat pouring down my face so this is laughable. Sometimes I couldn’t even get my mail. My mom had to do my laundry bc I couldn’t physically carry it to the laundry room in my complex. Idk, maybe he’s a super human who could go hiking during a very intense chemo regimen (worse than the one I went through). Don’t doubt there are people who can but…. I’m sure most people’s bullshit detectors are off the charts rn.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16883433014071474.webp

Edit 4:

Just remembered…99% sure maiden names come up in parentheses when you search if someone updated their NPI info.

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:siren: wake up babe, WaPo's Kiwifarms hit piece just dropped :!marseynullbipolar:

The endless battle to banish the world's most notorious stalker website

The anonymous forum, known as Kiwi Farms, keeps popping back online despite a relentless campaign by transgender activists and a former insider

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16937430637976246.webp

When he heard that Kiwi Farms had been knocked offline, "Clay," a member of the anonymous online forum, was flooded with relief. "I thought to myself, 'This heck on Earth has finally been vanquished.'"

Founded in 2013, Kiwi Farms has been used to organize vicious harassment and stalking campaigns against targets including Clara Sorrenti, a transgender activist known as Keffals, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), a far-right Republican. It went down exactly one year ago, after Cloudflare, a major tech security firm, stopped providing services, saying contributors to the forum were posting the home addresses of those seen as enemies and calling for them to be shot.

But in the week that followed, Kiwi Farms scrambled to stay alive, jumping from Russian servers to a Ukrainian hosting service to VanwaTech, a Vancouver, Wash.-based hosting and security company infamous for providing refuge to 8chan, a message board notorious for white-supremacist content. As it became increasingly clear that Kiwi Farms would not go down without a fight, "Clay" --- who spoke on the condition that he be identified by a pseudonym to avoid retribution --- joined forces with Liz Fong-Jones, one of Kiwi Farms's fiercest adversaries, and launched a dogged campaign to keep the site offline.

Over the past year, their little group of internet sleuths, trans engineers and activists has methodically chased Kiwi Farms across servers and networks around the globe, successively persuading more than two dozen companies to drop the site. Despite this laborious undertaking --- described exclusively to The Washington Post --- the site has endured, showing up for months at a time, sometimes as a "mirror" of itself on an entirely different URL or as a foreign domain in countries such as Poland.

The group's Sisyphean battle illustrates the lack of mechanisms for reporting online abuse, much less for banishing harmful content. It also raises serious doubts about society's ability to block any site from the global web --- even one that explicitly incites violence.

"Either people think Kiwi Farms is dead forever ... or they think it's up and therefore it's going to remain up forever," said Fong-Jones, a transgender site-reliability engineer who had been targeted by the forum. "Neither of those two narratives are true."

Founded by Joshua Moon, a former 8chan administrator, Kiwi Farms evolved into a popular platform for creating harassment campaigns. Its users often fixated on transgender people, relentlessly stalking and doxing them. At least three of its victims died by suicide.

In response to a request for comment, Moon wrote by email, "Do you still print that rag on paper? If so, please send a physical copy of your smear piece to the PO box listed on the website so I can frame it. Thanks."

The campaign against Kiwi Farms began in earnest last summer. Sorrenti, a Twitch streamer who became famous as a news star for trans youth, had been under attack for months by Kiwi Farms users, who she said doxed her address and "swatted" her home, filing a false crime report that drove police to her door. In August, she fled her native Canada for Europe and launched a social media campaign to pressure internet providers to stop protecting the forum, using the hashtag #DropKiwiFarms.

From her home in Vancouver, Fong-Jones heard about the harassment against Sorrenti and immediately recognized the tactics.

Fong-Jones also had been targeted by Kiwi Farms beginning in 2017, when she donated to a transgender nonprofit. Users published her home address, the names of her biological parents and a redacted copy of her birth certificate in a thread that included racist and transphobic slurs. Members smeared her online in an attempt to ruin her Google search results, then sent her employers the false information.

Though the harassment had died down, Fong-Jones still felt compelled to contribute to the #DropKiwiFarms campaign. She made videos for her YouTube channel explaining Cloudflare's complicity in keeping the site online.

Those videos soon reached Katherine Lorelai, a transgender IT worker in Norman, Okla. Lorelai had never heard of Kiwi Farms and was distraught by what she learned from Fong-Jones's presentations.

Lorelai had been taking gender transition hormones for less than a year and had no connections to activist circles. Beyond wrangling server space, she had never worked on systems that spanned the entire internet. But she volunteered to help, starting as Fong-Jones's assistant, before stepping up to co-lead the team.

"I had no idea I had these skills, to be honest," Lorelai said.

The group began spending dozens of hours each week navigating the byzantine web of network infrastructure, trying to ferret out connections between no-name intermediaries to track down Kiwi Farms's new home. Then they would send carefully worded emails to those companies' employees --- even cold-messaging on LinkedIn --- to persuade them to stop working with the website.

The group operated in cells in case they were doxed but kept track of every internet provider they persuaded to cut ties with Kiwi Farms.

Moon had a few major advantages. After earlier attempts to take down the site, he incorporated as his own internet service provider, acquiring his own physical hardware, network resources and a block of IP addresses, making Kiwi Farms much more difficult to dislodge. It marks the site as a "peer" on the internet, meaning Moon directly receives any abuse reports and is entitled to a presumption of good faith.

When the team alerted FiberHub, a data center in Las Vegas, to alert the company to the bad actor using their facilities, the center said they merely provided the electricity and power cord but had no bearing on the servers that kept the site online. Those belonged to Moon's hosting company, originally incorporated under the name Final Solutions, a Nazi reference. FiberHub did not immediately respond to request for comment.

The group slowly discovered a network of what they called "sh--hosts" --- low-end internet providers who work with disreputable sites that spread malware or offensive content, arguing that they have a right to free speech.

But the group had an asset of their own.

Clay had been a member of Kiwi Farms in his teens. He was bored, seeking community, pressured by his friends and going through a libertarian phase, he said. But following the suicide of one of the site's targets, he began to push back on the forum's creed that its victims weren't human. He withdrew from the site after he saw Kiwi Farms members turn their talents for doxing and harassment on other members.

His goal in joining Fong-Jones and Lorelai's group was to help the forum's users, he told The Post. He pointed to Frederick Brennan, the creator of 8chan who called for that site to be taken offline after it played a role in mass shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, and El Paso. Brennan, he said, "wanted to free [the] user base of that site from being radicalized, from going down a darker path. And that's what I'm sort of doing here."

Having Clay onboard was a game changer. One of the challenges in persuading companies that Kiwi Farms was a bad actor was the site's opaque language. Outsiders might overlook terms such as "TTD," which in Kiwi Farms's vernacular means "total tr--ny death," using a slur to refer to transgender people.

Clay could translate this language. He also could show how Kiwi Farms users migrated to Groomercord servers, where they were more explicit about planning attacks. He led activists to the threads most rife with racism and calls for violence. And he confirmed the trolls' habit of using the phrase "in Minecraft" to pretend an illegal activity, such as revealing the Social Security numbers of their targets, was just something they did in the online game.

"He was the Kiwi Farms whisperer," Fong-Jones said.

Clay, in turn, was getting an education of his own. Fong-Jones helped him get up to speed on the "backbone" of the internet --- massive networks responsible for publishing or passing along content known as Tier 1 ISPs --- as well as the smaller downstream companies that depend on them for global reach.

Specialists schooled him in navigating the labyrinthine telecommunications industry. They explained Border Gateway Protocol, the automated routing system that picks the best path for traffic. And they explained how to leverage Tier 1 ISP's acceptable use policies, the contracts that typically prohibit clients from using networks for theft, hacking, harassment, and other unwanted or illegal activity.

In October, the group made a breakthrough.

After rotating among web hosts, Moon had settled on Zayo, a company based in Boulder, Colo. Fong-Jones contacted someone at Zayo, a former colleague who was alarmed to learn his company was working with Kiwi Farms and escalated the matter to senior leadership.

Kiwi Farms's services were soon terminated. .In a statement, Zayo said it concluded that the forum had violated its acceptable use policy, "which allows for termination of service."

For Fong-Jones, it was a wake-up call. There are less than 20 Tier 1 ISPs in the world, and they get a ton of complaints: Spam. Malware. Harmful content. By and large, they try to stay out of such disputes, preferring to assume they are doing business with reputable companies. But the Zayo experience showed that --- if Fong-Jones could reach the right people --- top-tier providers were willing to prioritize enforcing their acceptable use policies.

Threats loomed over the group. After her YouTube videos about Cloudflare, Kiwi Farms users posted Fong-Jones's home address, Social Security number and driver's license. Once Zayo dropped the site, she began receiving death threats by phone.

Still, a year after the Cloudflare decision, asking providers to drop Kiwi Farms generates controversy. Last week, the Electronic Frontier Foundation published an opinion piece arguing that Tier 1 ISPs should not bow to pressure to drop Kiwi Farms, calling the move "a dangerous step" toward censorship.

"If the site in question were Reddit, or Planned Parenthood, or even EFF, the internet would be up in arms," wrote the foundation, a nonprofit digital rights group based in San Francisco.

Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School's Cyberlaw Clinic, called that argument misplaced. "Fundamentally, EFF fails to acknowledge how power dynamics and asymmetrical threats can act as its own form of censorship," Caraballo wrote on X, the site formerly known as Twitter.

Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince has confessed to mixed feelings. While the company has withdrawn security services for the Daily Stormer and 8chan --- both linked to real-world violence, including mass shootings and a deadly riot --- Prince argues that revoking services based on reprehensible content sets a dangerous precedent.

"Deciding what isn't allowed is the job of governments and regulators, not ISPs and network providers," he said via the messaging app Signal. Still, he added, "I don't miss having to worry about [Kiwi Farms] and their often vile content."

Amid that debate, Kiwi Farms remains online. Without Cloudflare or Zayo or any of the two dozen other companies that have dropped the forum since the group started in September, Fong-Jones says it is down to a limited number of lifelines.

Lorelai, who is now committed full-time to trans activism, wants to move on to other causes. Fong-Jones is moving on as well. Clay and another one of the younger members of the group plan on carrying the torch.

Reflecting on the past year, Fong-Jones said it's unreasonable to expect victims of harassment to have to do this work.

It's true Kiwi Farms keeps finding more providers, she said. But, "it's a finite list. And this is why we know we're going to win."

!chuds !transphobes

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A.I. commits trans genocide

Midjourney has a newish feature called 'describe', where you upload a picture and it describes it back to you. It was fun to try it on pictures of my family and friends to see what keywords it described them with. 'cottagecore', 'emotionally complex', 'intense laborer', 'dinopunk'(?), stuff like that. I also converted some of their portraits into illustrations, and they turned out surprisingly good. I might have finished my holiday shopping early this year.

But despite my better judgement, I tried the same things with a couple of my own selfies --my best selfies--and was pretty devastated by the keywords it chose, things like: 'pre-op', 'woman with facial hair', 'made of trash' (?!), 'gender bending', 'drag', stuff like that. Which sucks, because I picked pictures where I thought I actually kinda passed, selfies that reflected extensive prep and shaving and color correcting, portraits I was considering using as my new coming-out profile pics.

Then I thought maybe if I convert the selfies into illustrations, it would be a salve, since the pics of my friends became way more attractive in the rendered illustrations. But not for me. The results were exaggerated caricatures of drag queens/kings. 🤢 Not the look I thought I was projecting...

And now I'm crawling under a rock. It will probably be awhile before I get enough confidence again to be seen in public. And even when I do, I don't know if I'll ever be able to trust my own assessment of how I look again.

Someone reassures them AI is just terribad

>[–]any_old_usernamxe/xir or they/them 26 points 10 hours ago

if it makes you feel any better, a similar program called me "man" "girl" and "tumblr contest winner" all in the same picture.

As well as Midjourney overlords

>[–]Powerful-Finger-4376 10 points 5 hours ago

As a computer science researcher I hate the midjourney CEO guy cause he has zero interest in responsible AI and thinks of alignment work as a waste of time. Guys like him should be recycled into water, Fremen style.

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@FrozenCapy Rightoid drama please pin

@FrozenPilgrim @HeyvestMoon @carpilgrimflorist !effortposters


You've all seen parts of this guy by now. You all know he's a dramatard at heart, and he's just been handed real, actual power of a South American country. But I don't think you realize just how funny this is going to be.

I'm copy pasting large parts from an Economist article with some added Twitter shit and Argentinian TV clips.

Dramatards, meet your new President!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17005016899271557.webp

In 2019 Javier Milei – the front-runner in Argentina's presidential election later this month – attended a cosplay convention. He wore black and yellow spandex and wielded a golden staff. This alter ego, a character of his own invention, was called General Ancap, the leader of “Liberland”, a country “where nobody pays taxes”. The name was a portmanteau for anarcho-capitalist, a strand of libertarianism that seeks to abolish the state in favour of unfettered free markets. As Milei told a gaggle of amused adolescents, the general's mission was to “kick Keynesians and collectivists in the butt”.

He's an actual proponent of the meme ideology. He's literally declared Ancapistan. Argentina has just elected the heart and soul of /r/WallStreetBets :marseywallst: to the highest office of their country. You may have seen the clip going around of him screaming about shit leftards ruining the country. I didn't add that, he's actually using "shit leftards" and screaming about a journ*list conspiracy to destroy liberal economics.

Oh, you haven't seen it? Here.

Argentina, for the record, is fricked :marseystocksdown: :marseychartdowntrend2: :marseydeadcatbounce:. Inflation is sky high, the economy is in the potty, and in the previous election (this guy just won the run-off), the only mentally stable candidate was eliminated, giving Argentinians the choice between this guy and a Peronist, who's ideology has previously been fricking up the country. Now, it's someone else's turn.

Included among his campaign promises are:

  • :marseybux: Fix inflation by just switching to the US dollar which is actually stable

  • :marseypoor: Reduce government spending by 15% of GDP (that's a lot)

  • :marseyfedposthmmm: Reduce the number of government ministries from 18 to 8

  • :marseylibright: Get rid of most taxes

  • :marseymacarthur: "Blow up" the central bank. He may just get rid of it, he may actually detonate the building. No one knows

He blames Argentina's problems on a political 'caste', which he believes consists of fat politicians, trade union leaders, and other cronies. :marseyrightoidschizo:


Javier Milei - S*x Guru

*Since he exploded onto the public scene, Milei's complex personal life has been as prominent as his political pronouncements. He has boasted on television about being a s*x guru whom former girlfriends call “the naughty cow”, introduced audiences to his four cloned English mastiffs and spoken openly about his complicated relationship with his parents, whom he long dismissed as merely his “progenitors”. In a country of 46m people, he has nearly 7m followers across his social-media accounts. *

This man has publicly boasted the weird s*x he has, including the fact that he can go three months without nutting. Yes, that's real, he said that. :marseycoomer3:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17005016901633604.webp

He's kind of got a weird look to him. Like most unstable rightoids, he's got a weird hairstyle. Instead of just trying to look presentable and normal, he just owns the schizo look for some reason :marseyschizotwitch:

As frontman, Milei styled his beehive-sized hair to look more like Mick Jagger's. (Today he attributes his hairdo that ends in impressive sideburns to the work of the “invisible hand”, a wry reference to Adam Smith's description of the forces that move the free market.)

This motherlover's barber is literally the invisible hand. He's so schizo he probably thinks it's an actual floating hand :marseyxd:


Economic Beliefs and Schizophrenia

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Milei claims he consumed the 150-page article in three hours. “When I finished reading it…I said, ‘Everything I taught in the last 25 years on market structures is wrong.'” (In fact, Milei had only been teaching economics since becoming a master's student.) Milei adopted anti-statist ideas with the zeal of a religious convert. Soon after, he started devouring books by anti-Keynesian economists. He particularly liked Friedrich Hayek, Keynes's nemesis, who argued that handing over economic control to the state, rather than to individuals, leads to tyranny.

Javier Milei used to be a Keynesian, which is a pretty par for the course economic theory. It's got it's own problems, but if you met one, you wouldn't cross the street or anything. This motherlover read one article and became an anarchist overnight. Not because it was good, but because hes highly unstable and really just needed a direction to go.

But @NeedForStuffing, I don't think he's that unstable, he just seems kind of radical. Maybe that's what Argentina needs?

Oh boy, is he!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1700501690890705.webp

Milei seems to believe that leading Argentina is his destiny. Maslatón said he asked Milei in 2022 whether he would throw his hat in the ring for the presidency; he responded that God had told him to turn Argentina liberal. Other sources have claimed that Milei has supernatural visions. In one, Ayn Rand, the libertarian philosopher, supposedly appeared to him in a bookshop. In another, he saw the resurrection of Christ.

Javier Milei, President-Elect of Argentina, claims that the ghost of Ayn Rand came to him in a bookshop and told him to destroy the central bank :marseyxd:. it really doesn't get better than that. He's literally waving a chainsaw around at public rallies. What more did you want?

>I was sitting in the presidential palace, reading my copy of Atlas Shrugged and shooting up heroin, when a call came in. I put a quarter into my receiver and picked it up. "President Milei's office", I answered. "It's Ayn Rand and also Jesus Christ", came the reply. "We need you to destroy the central bank and criticize the Pope on television"

He really doesn't like the Pope, by the way. He's pretty mean to everyone when asked lmao. People will ask him random questions and he just flips out:

As he became more famous, Milei's views and public persona grew more extreme. When a journ*list asked a mundane question about Keynes, he replied: “All I'm saying is that you're an idiot and you talk about things you don't know.” He called the centrist mayor of Buenos Aires “a leftist piece of shit” and “a worm” whom he could “squish even in a wheelchair”. Once, he suggested that a politician he disliked should be beheaded with a samurai sword. He has dismissed the pope, who is Argentine, as “a leftist son of a b-word”, “a donkey”, “a jackass” and “an ignoramus”.

>Darn, you know what could endear me to Argentinians? A majority Catholic country, when the pope is also Argentinean? Calling the pope an r-slur. Yeah, that'll do it.

When asked whether he thought parents should be able to sell their children, he responded: “it depends.” “Wouldn't the answer just be no?” the journ*list replied, dumbfounded. “If I had a child, I wouldn't sell it…[but] maybe 200 years from now it could be debated,” said Milei.

The ancap president is literally going to put the children back in the mines :marseyxd: :marseyxd: :marseyxd:

Oh my god he's actually pro child-slavery you can't make this up what the frick is happening in south america lmao

When a journ*list asked a mundane question about Keynes, he replied: “All I'm saying is that you're an idiot and you talk about things you don't know.” He called the centrist mayor of Buenos Aires “a leftist piece of shit” and “a worm” whom he could “squish even in a wheelchair”. Once, he suggested that a politician he disliked should be beheaded with a samurai sword. He has dismissed the pope, who is Argentine, as “a leftist son of a b-word”, “a donkey”, “a jackass” and “an ignoramus”.

I'm just including this for fun. He threatened to behead someone with a katana, it's literally :marseywallst: as president lmao

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17005016912763572.webp

Are the Brazilians in the room with us now?

Some weird shit to round it out

Javier Milei loves two things in this world - his sister, and his dog.

He's really fond of his sister. He was pretty abused as a child and he was really worried about her, so now that they're grown up he practically worships her. She approves or denies literally everything in his life, from meetings to catering etc. Which is kind of weird but maybe in a nice way? I don't know, you guys judge.

He also really loves his dog. When his dog died, he had it cloned. He now has four identical clones of his original dogs running around in his house. Go figure lmao.


There's so much on this guy. If you can find more please add. But holy shit guys, it's /ourguy/ running a country :marseyxd:


EDIT: JUDAISM

I forgot the best part:

An interest in the mystical has also prompted Milei to consider converting to Judaism. He has begun consulting a rabbi and says his first trip abroad as president would be to Israel. The week I interviewed him, he told me he was travelling to New York to pray at an ultra-Orthodox congregation before Shabbat; he explained that Moses, who led the Jewish people out of Egypt and into the promised land, was an inspiration. In other interviews he has gone further, likening his sister, Karina, to Moses and himself to Aaron, Moses's brother and spokesperson.

I'm pretty sure this guy believes that the Jews actually control the banks and the world. So he's going to Israel to get on their good side and ask for help in fixing the economy. This guy is fricking unbelievable.

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EFFORTPOST UPDATE #8: I am tired and going to bed Janniecord is taking the janniecide well

Right on schedule after the long weekend in which the jannies worked and Reddit employees had barbecues like normal people we are back! If you're just tuning in, you're a few dozen leak threads late. But the latest development was this:

https://rdrama.net/post/180607/at-last-jannycide-is-upon-us

which isn't leaky, but was the public announcement of this reckoning. And now without further ado, today's leaks:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687306644798558.webp

:#marseydemopped::#marseyspez:

Will update with meltdowns as they accumulate. Just wanted to get this thread up so they know I’m still watching, I’ve just been busy :star:

:#marseybongojanny:



20:19 EST Gigajannies acknowledge the janniecide:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873068909735963.webp



20:26 EST: jannies are taking to the white supremacist platform Twitter to sneed now

..and they’re crying about getting the rDrama treatment :marseycarptrollg#un:

https://twitter.com/jackdaniel8008/status/1671297523108007941?s=46

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873073428213387.webp



21:11 The #resignations channel is born

I lost another jannie groomercord account due to suspicious activity and I am now down to three. The walls are closing in.

:marseycarpd#evil:

But anyway they've created a #resignations channel and the infighting is starting back up

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873100781036127.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687310020435923.webp

lol they're talking about me even though the word rdrama gets autodeleted :marseycarpshy#:

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21:27 Intermission

While we wait for more shareworthy tantrums, @ForcedRegistrycel has collated some fun stuff about a dethroned /r/celebrities jannie, one @Vaprz, who is in ruins after losing 14 years of his life to moderating /r/celebrities only to be fired from a volunteer position. I would strongly recommend visiting his thread!

https://rdrama.net/post/180641/janicide-horror-stories-removed-as-moderator



21:57 Emotions run high

Tensions continue to mount in the newly-christened #resignations and /u/HKayn is repeatedly begging people not to make any rash, life-altering decisions like resigning from a moderator position or deleting one's Reddit account.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126351970282.webp

The users in the powerjannie Groomercord briefly consider whether turning Reddit over to other powermods is the best course of action.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126352992647.webp

AND THEY HAVE A NEW PLAN - DELETE FRICKING EVERYTHING! YEAH! BURN REDDIT TO THE GROUND!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126355708241.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687312635714409.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126359529443.webp

They go on to rule this out. Not because Reddit would obviously just roll their deletions back, but because they (again) don't want to lose their positions or accounts :marseyxd#::

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126362235308.webp

/u/Meepster23, who our own @Julian_H_Cope calls "one of the few respectable mods", pulls the trigger and deletes his Reddit account!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126362698114.webp

...just kidding lol he lied.

While I have you here, give this a listen!

:#marseyjamming:



21:59 RAPIDFIRE UPDATES - SADMINS FUCKED AROUND AND FOUND OUT :#marseyjannymin!i:

Is the janniecide over? Six million mops in four hours always did seem suspicious. The numbers just don't add up. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but just like, think about it bro.

https://twitter.com/JackDaniel8008/status/1671332720729903104

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873129318135414.webp

I can't believe the jannie counteroffensive is winning lmao. Kill me.

:marseycarpsalute#: the fallen chadmins



23:29 BLIND KINKSTERS

I have no idea what this means but something about accessibility on p*rn subs for blind pornsick addicts??

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873178115949023.webp

They can’t name rDrama (literally! they made a bot to autodelete any messages containing “rDrama”!) but they’re talking about us. And chtorrr. And Marty the Hate Cat.

:#marseychtorrr2::#marseyhomohitler:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687317991735635.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873179918796833.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873181500819385.webp

A hyperautistic lunatic has noticed the reddit content policy is no longer available in English :marseythonk:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873181499907358.webp

https://redditinc.com/policies/content-policy



23:50 Bedtime

Ok I am very bored and getting off now. What do you think will happen with the content policy?

One final leak: they think random users who just add subs to their feed to scroll their FYP while they shit are going to rally to their heroic jannies’ defense :marseykneel:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873198221219192.webp

Goodnight dramautists, pray that we all wake to a world free of jannies :#marseycarpsleeping:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873196800132532.webp

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MISLEADING TITLE: ONLY FOR COLLEGE ADMISSIONS THE SUPREME COURT HAS STRUCK DOWN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION

The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that the race-conscious admissions programs at Harvard and the University of North Carolina were unlawful, curtailing affirmative action at colleges and universities around the nation, a policy that has long been a pillar of higher education.

The vote was 6 to 3, with the court’s liberal members in dissent.

The decision was expected to set off a scramble as schools revisit their admissions practices, and it could complicate diversity efforts elsewhere, narrowing the pipeline of highly credentialed minority candidates and making it harder for employers to consider race in hiring.

More broadly, the decision was the latest illustration that the court’s conservative majority continues to move at a brisk pace to upend decades of jurisprudence and redefine aspects of American life on contentious issues like abortion, guns and now race — all in the space of a year.

The court had repeatedly upheld similar admissions programs, most recently in 2016, saying that race could be used as one factor among many in evaluating applicants.

The two cases were not identical. As a public university, U.N.C. is bound by both the Constitution’s equal protection clause and Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which bars race discrimination by institutions that receive federal money. Harvard, a private institution, is subject only to the statute.

In the North Carolina case, the plaintiffs said that the university discriminated against white and Asian applicants by giving preference to Black, Latinx and Native American ones. The university responded that its admissions policies fostered educational diversity and were lawful under longstanding Supreme Court precedents.

The case against Harvard has an additional element, accusing the university of discriminating against Asian American students by using a subjective standard to gauge traits like likability, courage and kindness, and by effectively creating a ceiling for them in admissions.

Lawyers for Harvard said the challengers had relied on a flawed statistical analysis and denied that the university discriminated against Asian American applicants. More generally, they said race-conscious admissions policies are lawful.

Both cases — Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard, No. 20-1199, and Students for Fair Admissions v. University of North Carolina, No. 21-707 — were brought by Students for Fair Admissions, a group founded by Edward Blum, a legal activist who has organized many lawsuits challenging race-conscious admissions policies and voting rights laws, several of which have reached the Supreme Court.

The universities both won in federal trial courts, and the decision in Harvard’s favor was affirmed by a federal appeals court.

In 2016, the Supreme Court upheld an admissions program at the University of Texas at Austin, holding that officials there could continue to consider race as a factor in ensuring a diverse student body. The vote was 4 to 3. (Justice Antonin Scalia had died a few months before, and Justice Elena Kagan was recused.)

Writing for the majority, Justice Anthony M. Kennedy said that courts must give universities substantial but not total leeway in devising their admissions programs. He was joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen G. Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor.

Seven years later, only one member of the majority in the Texas case, Justice Sotomayor, remains on the court. Justice Kennedy retired in 2018 and was replaced by Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh; Justice Ginsburg died in 2020 and was replaced by Justice Amy Coney Barrett; and Justice Breyer retired last year and was replaced by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson.

Justice Jackson recused herself from the Harvard case, having served on one of its governing boards.

The Texas decision essentially reaffirmed Grutter v. Bollinger, a 2003 decision in which the Supreme Court endorsed holistic admissions programs, saying it was permissible to consider race to achieve educational diversity. Writing for the majority in that case, Justice Sandra Day O’Connor said she expected that “25 years from now,” or in 2028, the “use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary.”

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GIGAJANNIES PUBLICLY DECLARE OPEN SEASON ON PROTESTERS

CALLING ALL SCABS

CALLING ALL SCABS

IT IS HAPPOONING

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