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CONTEXT:
For many South Africans and Burgerlanders there are often cross-cultural shock when they realize each other's nation have legally-enforced or conversely the absence of, what is known as Gas Station Attendants.
Similarly many safrican tourists, those wealthy enough not to have their rands r*ped too harshly by the powerful bad exchange rate of the Rand-to-Dollars $ - instead find out that not only is it normalized that yanks fricking pour into their tanks their own petrol/diesel, and that they are pretty much expected to do so on their own!
In Burgerland, there are often videos about stupid women trying and failing to pour in petrol into their vehicles
This is something which few Safricans would ever witness, as official petrol-station employees are the ones who fill up your gas and shit.
FILLING STATION ATTENDANTS:
Now in Burgerland, Gas Station Attendants are officially instead called "Filling station attendants". And their slang term for them are "gas jockeys" or at least so in North America. I'm told Canadians also use the term Gas Jockeys, but I can't confirm that, some Leafs dramatards will have to confirm.
Now what's notable for Burgerland is that Gas Jockeys do exist in the modern day, but are very rare, and only exist in a select few States or municipal regions (yanks call these Counties).
Now just like modern day South African Gas Station Attendants, these gas jockeys would basically do services outside of just accepting payment (which are done usually by lone gas-station attendants just accepting cash if even cards aren't swiped on the yank petrol-pump itself). These other services would be stuff like cleaning windshields, checking the client's remaining oil and water levels, pumping their tires for air on request, or in really fricking old vehicles/trucks cranking the shafts, and other stuff which franchise petrol-stations offer services to attract customers to their specific branded petrol-stations.
Now Gas Jockies used to be more prevalent in Burgerland, but their utilization would decline by the time the 1970s arrived, punctuated when Burgerland would have a gas-shortage crisis
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1970s-gas-shortages-changed-america-180977726/
Consequently the businesses most hardest hit by these gasoline-shortages would be the stations themselves, which suffered decades long layoffs and cost-cutting with intensity, within 10 years the american culture of widespread gas attendants would basically cease. Many "Full-service gas-stations" would close, aka those stations with Gas Jockies, and basically in the majority of Burgerland states only "self-help stations", aka the modern most widespread gas stations in Amerika, would become the norm. In most of the West like Europe, "self-help stations" are pretty much the norm also, and it is in fact the "Full-service gas-stations" (the stations with attendants) which are the outlier and aberration, ESPECIALLY in america.
There are as far as I can tell, only two states in USA where "Full-service gas-stations" are still in widespread use in modern Burgerland. The yank states of New Jersey and Oregon.
The histories I don't know why, but basically both states had local municipal laws in the 1950s enforcing that "self-help stations" would be illegal, and thus were the only two states which survived the death of the "Full-service gas-stations" culture in the 1970s gasoline shortage crisis, as "self-help stations" were not legally allowed to outcompete them.
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It is a common joke and stereotype that peeps from the state of New Jersey don't know how to fill in their own gas, as their particular municipal regions have banned "self-help stations", and consequently arrive clueless as to what to do in all the other adjacent States' petrol stations.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/22/why-you-cant-pump-your-own-gas-in-new-jersey.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/05/new-jersey-drivers-pump-gas-00014339
SOUTH AFRICA!
Now hilariously the modern Republic of South Africa is only one of the only 3 nations upon this earth which have legally recognized working occupations known as a "Gas Station Attendants".
Or to put it more specifically, it is one of the only 3 nations on Earth which have governmental law which influence or ban the use of "self-help stations" within their Nation State in some form or another!
Combinations of "self-help stations" and "Full-service gas-stations" do exist on other parts of the globe, but these are driven by the economic or social trends and conventions of their respective nations, where there are both found even in modern places like Western Europe, and are not directed by the laws of their nation states.
These nations are Burgerland (the 2 mentioned States), South Africa........and Brasilia!! !macacos
For South Africa, this was enacted back in the 1990s, during the Nelson Mandela Administration and the Thabo Mbeki Administrations for the sake of Job Creation, as there was intense levels of joblessness even back then. The Western liberal democracies' sanctions against the Union of SA's Apartheid State had crippled the country, and had obliterated the wealth of many businesses and farms, unfortunately sanctions tend to be a blunt instrument and all races were equally economically traumatized by the sanctions from the 1980s to 1992.
As part of their initiatives of job creation by the ANC, many new jobs were deemed to be created on the most compulsory industries, such as anything related to the fuel industry.
Many Mayos would b-word about these new Job Creation initiatives, as they believed that many peeps were given junk jobs just to fill out uniforms and create nonsense jobs - jobs which maybe paid for the new employees of the state, but added no benefit to the economy or aided the new nation. Most criticized of these new types of jobs was the Gas Station Attendant, once again because Mayo Boomers were used to pumping their own shit, and now had to have someone do it for them?? What a useless job!
"Full-service gas-stations" had existed before, but they weren't a nationally legalized requirement. None were more pissed by this ruling than Petrol Station owners themselves, as they suddenly found themselves with massively exorbitantly increased labour costs involved.
In fact the nature of South African Petrol Stations would drastically change due to this nationalization of the Gas Station Attendant job. Before 1990s, many individually owned "Mom-and-Pop" Gas Stations existed in SA, but these new regulations would mean only national scale chain and franchise Gas Station companies would be able to afford continual operation as Gas Stations, especially as Petrol Tax would also increase under the new ANC regime.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/momandpop.asp
In fact for modern Gas Stations, they basically make ZERO profit via the sale of petrol alone, and all Gas Station franchise basically make their money via their convenience-stores and road-restaurants and shops attached next to the sets of gas pumps. All "Mom-and-Pop" gas stations would go extinct due to the creation of the Gas Station Attendant job, or be bought out by massive conglomerate chains such as Sasol, Shell, Total, Engen, and BP
Yet in spite of all the bitching, most Petrol Station companies and owners would pivot to preferring the use of Gas Station Attendants as South Africa would become increasingly more dysfunctional and crime ridden, and the Police became increasingly more corrupt and worthless, by the time 2005 rolled in, and the corruption of the ANC became rampant.
Basically it would become financial suicide to ever operate "self-help stations" as they would be robbed blind within a fortnight, or their utilities and equipment destroyed by douchbags and malcontents. Minibus taxis and crime syndicates would prove themselves especially prone to fricking stealing petrol wholesale by literally pumping out the petrol of gas stations right out of their pumps via portable generators and tanks.
A very common form of theft, especially in places like Cape Town with limited parking behind fences in the cramped city, is for thieves to bust open the petrol-cap, and literally suck out the petrol/diesel right out of your vehicle in the middle of the night, and for the poor luckless owner to climb into his car, and realize to their dismay their fuel gage is fricking empty overnight!!
Thus modern RSA Gas Station owners and companies basically very much prefer to have their own employees pour gas, as the average South African is absolutely untrustworthy to not be a thief, or just a Tsotsi delinquent who'll frick up your pumps and equipment after single use!
Basically it's unthinkable for South Africans to live in world where Self-Help Stations exists such in Burgerland, and Safricans tourists get culture shock when the visit, not because they can't figure out how to pump their own gas, but because they are like: WHAT IF SOMEBODY STEALS THE GAS WHEN NOBODY IS WATCHING
https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/is-sa-ready-for-diy-petrol-stations-1575915
From a Job Creation, to a modern necessity, Is SA ready for DIY petrol stations? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Cape Town - The nationwide petrol attendant strike has seen calls for big oil companies to consider installing self-service pumps at their petrol stations.
But while the move would put South Africa in line with First World economies such as the US and UK, industry experts have warned that adoption of the pumps locally could result in widespread unemployment.
Self-service pumps were first introduced in the 1970s. Initially the system was built on trust, with motorists filling up before paying at the station's shop.
But this quickly made way for the credit card-based system which has been proposed for South Africa. According to the Cape Chamber of Commerce's Michael Bagraim, the “swipe system” would be best for the country. This would see pumps activated by the swipe of a credit, debit or dedicated petrol card before motorists could manually refuel their cars.
The US has almost unilaterally adopted the same system, and over the past three years, stations in developing countries such as India, Malaysia and the United Arab Emirates have begun rolling it out.
Temporary petrol attendant Craig Felix, who has been filling in during the strike, said self service was a massive safety concern.
“I wouldn't like to have to get out of my car to put petrol in. It's not safe in some areas.”
Avhapfani Tshifularo, executive director of the South African Petroleum Industry Association, said self service would simply not work in the country. “Nobody is allowed to fill up his own tank at a petrol station according to the law which protects 70 000 jobs at a retail level.”
For Mxolisi Ratsibe, head of employee relations at the National Petroleum Employee Association, the debate boiled down to one glaring downside. “Jobs, jobs, jobs.”
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https://www.news24.com/fin24/aa-urges-motorists-not-to-pump-own-petrol-20130910
Translation: South Africans on average are fricking r-slurred and even without theft concerns, are likely to break and destroy Fuel Pumps on their own, which tend to be very flammable and dangerous
Now hilariously, in the past fricking Gas Jockeys would be TIPPED lmoa. Yanks are genetically predisposed to tip for everythang!
Often yank tourists suffering cultural shock when they visited Safrica about 15-20 years ago would wonder if it was customary to tip petrol attendants, since yanks were used to pour their petrol/diesel themselves and didn't know how to properly interact with such a bizarre difference in their everyday actions.
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-customary-to-tip-petrol-attendants-in-South-Africa
Now yank tourists would tell each other to tip in RSA, but this absolutely wasn't the custom for SA locals, especially since most SA white boomers were themselves used to pour in their own gas, just as yanks were pre-democratization, and now suddenly they were expected to fricking tip some doofus doing a basic manual labour job they had easily done themselves in the past
This false view that gas attendants were only spread around by yanks because of the extremely low wages of Gas Station Attendants and the pittance yanks paid with their powerful dollars, and how shocked they were at the feeble wages south africans obtained in their daily lives.
However, even RSA tourism boards would end up dissuading yanks and other foreigners from feeling obligated to tip, because Gas Station Attendants would alter their behaviour and performance upon the expectation and receival of tips. And since local safricans, including local safrican car owners were just as relatively dirt poor, and could absolutely not afford fricking tipping upon rising petrol/diesel prices, and having lazy Gas Jockies give shit service because locals don't give tips was not something tolerated for long, and Gas-Station owners would make it clear that future behavior would have to be independent of tips henceforth.
Stupid modern yank tourists still tip in places like Cape Town, but it's not been a common thing by the late 2010s.
FINAL NOTE:
Also apparently Brasilia is equally cucked by their commie government and had implemented laws to create Gas Station Attendant jobs of up to 300 000 peeps in 2000!
Unite! Beware AmeriKKKa! The 3rd world is coming to R*PE U!
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Nichalas cruz shot up Parkland high school because he was a crazy man, and could have easily been stopped at any time, but how did he get so crazy? Let's find out!
4chan…does not have the answers. Let's not go to pol. It's a silly place
Nicholas Cruz was born to a drug-addicted alcoholic and suffered brain damage in the womb.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/22/us/nikolas-cruz-trial-defense
His mother was a violent prostitute and crack whore and
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2018/09/05/cruz-biological-mother-s-past/10839405007/
he eventually got dumped in an orphanage
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna44366
Her name was Brenda Woodward and she was the ugliest prostitute you've ever seen
His parents helped take care of her. Also he showed classic crack baby symptoms
https://cbs12.com/news/local/nikolas-cruz-defense-enters-its-2nd-week-of-testimony
She smoked crack while pregnant according to another whore who worked the same strip of road in kentucky
Although there's debate over whether he has fetal alcohol syndrome
https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/expert-questions-whether-school-shooters-mom-drank-heavily/
His adoptive mother was in the room when he was born
He reconnected with his crack whore mother months before her death
He phoned her from jail and she wanted nothing to do with him so that didn't last
Nicholas Cruz watched his step-father die of a heart attack at the age of five
He was an excitable boy
https://www.wptv.com/news/parkland-shooting/testimony-nikolas-cruzs-home-ruled-by-chaos
At age 9 he was chucking rocks at other children
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/25/us/nikolas-cruz-warning-signs
Police were called to his house 45 times
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/13/book-review-why-meadow-died/
The FBI got a tip on him having guns, talking about wanting to shoot up a school, having a long history of violence and self-harm, and being a local menace to society but didn't follow protocol or act on it
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna848681
They even admit it
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-statement-on-the-shooting-in-parkland-florida
Here's the official report
https://vault.fbi.gov/public-access-line-probe/public-access-line-probe-part-01/view
Basically they were more worried about dissidents than crimes because the FBI is a terrible organization run by terrible people.
They weren't the only ones ignoring the obvious threat
https://nypost.com/2019/09/09/why-the-system-failed-to-stop-nikolas-cruz-and-could-do-it-again/
The local sheriff departments got constant warnings
https://miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article201684874.html
The middle school placed him in a special school for especially dangerous people, but that wasn't good enough for Broward county who moved him back to a regular school
They also classified his suicide attempt as “a minor disruption”
He got sent to a school for crazy people, started doing better, so naturally that meant it was alright to send him to a regular high school instead of keeping him in the controlled environment where he was doing well. I think dyslexia can be cured with beatings and even I see the problem here.
He was assigned to a controversial Broward county program
And transferred from schools like a hot potatoe
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article201216104.html
His mother considered signing her parental rights away to the local zoo in the months leading up to her death
And then tried to get sent back to the school for crazy people
The school resource officer wanted to baker act him because he was drinking gasoline and torturing animals.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/19/us/florida-school-shooting-cruz-psychiatric-records
The system failed him repeatedly. But redditors disagree because the system is perfect
According to the official report the school system and law enforcement failed at every step at every level
Political correctness interfered
He was a p-dophile!
Broward county school district had a policy of not calling the cops even when they really should have
https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/march-2020-book-review
Here's a shot by shot recounting of the shooting
Cruz's brother is dissapoint
He also got arrested for hanging around the school
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/28/us/zachary-cruz-bond-nikolas-brother-parkland
And then got robbed
https://news.yahoo.com/two-men-charged-exploiting-brother-162055449.html
Broward county school district tried to cover it up
The sheriff of Broward county got removed by the governor for his massive incompetence
And the senate agrees
As did multiple school board members
But the sheriff is still crying about it
And lost a lawsuit
Andrew Pollack, father of Meadow Pollack, seeks justice for letting Cruz get this bad and get this far
And then got arrested in a property dispute with his neighbors
G*merghazi is insufferable and should be shot
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Not really drama so much as a term I heard recently when a girl said she had RSD. Having never encountered this word, I looked it up and seems like it's a term used to describe feeling extremely bad when rejected, except of course now it has a “diagnosis” type sounding label, and people with adhd say it's different for them, it's a disorder.
A picture from /r/adhdwomen for your edification:
https://old.reddit.com/r/adhdwomen/comments/1c0ms2h/rsd_signs/?sort=controversial
Or course Redditors apply it to themselves like a girl scout collecting badges:
The funny thing is that a good way to frick with overly sensitive self-diagnosers is to deny RSD exists.
Edit: ithe D stands for dysphoria, not disorder lol
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It makes me sad. If they had better parents or a parent, or if there environment was a little better they wouldn't be where they are. Then I'll see an older one with mental illness. Those ones are scary because they probably had a stable adult life and then their mind ruined them. I wish the latter on my enemies.
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Astrophysicist and Nobel laureate Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar used to travel 80 kilometers every week from the Yerkes Observatory to the University of Chicago, where he taught a course attended by only two students. When asked why he spent his time this way, the professor replied… pic.twitter.com/KI1b3CwCgw
— Andriy Burkov (@burkov) May 1, 2024
Asian powa
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Dalke printed out top secret documents, and after leaving, he offered to sell them for $85,000 to an individual he believed was a Russian agent
For 85k why not just fricking go to work instead? I'm the laziest person in the world and even I'm not this pathetic.
- JohnnyBOO : Least horny homosexual post
- KILL_EVERYONE : literal turds DO NOT OPEN
- Lv51_Slime : gay shit
- Healthy : Not opening that thread but let me guess, at least one american has drawn comparison to BBC?
- Goomble : cute twink
- FoidBlaster : I didn't open, b-word.
- soapysoapy : if i don't win i'm going to shit all your pants
- kaamrev : Degeneracy
- TERRORIST : Adolf Hitler if you can hear me - hit this guy's house with an asteroid
- TheOverSeether : A cute twink having a scat fetish???
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I really should just make these contests weekend-to-weekend because I don't do shit on weekdays and I GOT A fricking COLD so I was fricking practicing self-care by watching Netflix for four days (Dead Boy Detectives is SO fricking cute omg gais).
The fricking turnout for this bowel movement contest was a fricking lot greater than the fricking last one so I am going to assume you're all either BROKE or just more FULL OF SHIT than usual. Entries are fricking below. They are fricking submitted in no specific order and without usernames so as to avoid fecal matter related NEPOTISM (though you can just go look because they're all like THERE).
&If I forgot your shit and you are fricking all upset about it please DM me with a fricking link and I'll add it in and provide a'lil something as an apology.
PRIZES
Winner will be fricking gifted 20kMB.
Second runner up will be fricking gifted 10kMB
A fricking third prize of 5KMB will be fricking granted to who I believe had the fricking most interesting and artistic shit. This award is fricking entirely at my discretion.
All participants will be fricking granted entrance to the fricking extremely exclusive !shitheads ping group.
All participants will be fricking granted this very ugly badge:
VOTING ENDS TUESDAY @ 8PM EST
xoxo
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Cute pictures of her new velvet hippo Hickory:
Some of the typical comments:
Hickory is going to need lots of tennis balls!! I love him so much. Completely adorable! 🧡💙
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He's beautiful I love him 🥰❤️ congratulations!
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Honey still seems displeased.
Displeased? She looks like she's completely disassociated. Unable to comprehend the horror of the situation.
Only 3 hours later, disaster strikes!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
He's NOT a bad boy he's so sweet he only chewed on my dog's head a little bit
GOOD idea, there's too many toddlers in the world anyway
I can't be the only one who finds the juxtaposition funny between the sparkly hearts and the advice on how to stop your dogs eating each other
Bonus Post
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Four people stabbed and slashed by a man carrying a samurai sword in Hainault station in Redbridge Essex this morning.
— Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 (@TRobinsonNewEra) April 30, 2024
Some reports are saying the attacker is 15 years old.
Not a chance. pic.twitter.com/JRIdoP5llj
Location:
Unfortunately it was a white guy or the memes would be excellent
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-london-68926446
https://twitter.com/MPSRedbridge/status/1785226912924635540
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Imagine being a full grown man and being excited by cooking.
— Andrew Tate (@Cobratate) April 30, 2024
Not war.
Not conquest.
No. You get adrenaline from making an omelette.
Fucking nerd.
Chefs are worms.
OMG WHAT IF THE MEATS OVER DONE OMG 😮
Who cares.
Hardly getting knocked out is it.
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TLDR: Asylum seekers have been pouring into UK from France via the Channel and France won't take them back because reasons. Ever since UK's Rwanda asylum plan has been in the works, fearing relocation, these migrants have been crossing into Ireland via Northern Ireland (no hard border). Now the Irish are overburdened with these people without enough resources to manage them. After years of hand-wringing and finger-wagging at the Brits for their treatment of migrants, the Irish are now pissed that they're on the hook.
Relevant links
r/unitedkingdom: Rwanda plan: Ireland 'won't provide loophole', says taoiseach
r/ireland: Sunak: Migrants going to Ireland shows Rwanda plan's deterrent effect working
r/ireland: Rwanda Bill causing migrants to head for Ireland instead of UK, deputy PM says
r/ukpolitics: Asylum seekers pouring into Ireland from UK, says minister
r/ireland: Asylum seekers pouring into Ireland from UK, says minister
r/ireland: Ministers scramble to shut ‘back door' of asylum-seekers arriving via Northern Ireland
And more https://old.reddit.com/search?q=ireland+asylum&restrict_sr=&sort=relevance&t=week
Britain ‘not interested' in taking back migrants from Ireland, Sunak warns
PM declares UK will not accept migrants returned from EU as dozens of asylum seekers' tents sprawl through Dublin streets
Rishi Sunak has declared he is “not interested” in taking back migrants from Ireland as stark new images revealed dozens of asylum seekers' tents sprawling through the streets of Dublin.
The Prime Minister said Britain would not accept migrants returned from the EU via Ireland when the EU was refusing to take back Channel migrants who came from France.
The row broke out after senior Irish ministers said they would draft emergency laws to send back refugees who had arrived from the UK to avoid being deported to Rwanda.
On Monday, new pictures showed the tents stretching around the city's International Protection Office and continuing along the road. They are reportedly being used by some 1,700 homeless asylum seekers in Dublin.
Some tents bore signs including “Seeking asylum is not a crime” and “EU's racist asylum policy is criminal”.
The tents, packed tightly together with minimal personal space, have no access to sanitary facilities. A large group of the migrants were moved to another location in south Dublin earlier this month but later returned because the conditions there were reportedly worse.
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Last week, Micheal Martin, the Irish deputy prime minister, said the UK's Rwanda policy was “impacting on Ireland” because people were “fearful” of staying in the UK and were seeking asylum in Ireland instead. The Irish claim 80 per cent of asylum seekers have crossed the border from Northern Ireland.
The Home Office has also admitted that it is unable to remove more than half of the 5,700 migrants it intends to deport to Rwanda in a document seen by The Times on Monday night.
Simon Harris, the Irish prime minister, has asked for proposals for a new law to be brought to his cabinet this week to pave the way for the return of migrants to the UK.
Sunak ‘determined to get our Rwanda scheme up and running'
However, asked on ITV News whether he would agree to a returns agreement with Ireland, Mr Sunak said: “We're not, I'm not interested in that. We're not going to accept returns from the EU via Ireland when the EU doesn't accept returns back to France where illegal migrants are coming from.
“Of course we're not going to do that. I'm determined to get our Rwanda scheme up and running because I want a deterrent.”
Asked if there was scope to negotiate a returns deal with the EU, Mr Sunak said: “No. I'm focused squarely on getting our Rwanda scheme up and running. I want the deterrent which will say that if you come to our country illegally, you will not be able to stay and you will be removed either to your own country if it's safe or Rwanda.
“That's why I've worked so hard at this. That's why we've done all the prep work for this. And actually I want that deterrent up and running and I'm confident that it will work.”
It came as Mr Martin met with Chris Heaton-Harris, the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, at the British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference in London on Monday.
Mr Martin told British officials that legislation being prepared to enable Dublin to legally send back asylum seekers to the UK was to deal with a decision by the Irish High Court. That decision overturned the designation of the UK as a “safe country”. The new Irish law, to be presented on Tuesday, provides a replacement legal base for migrant returns.
UK ‘not in the business of having more Channel migrants'
However, Mr Heaton-Harris warned that any migrant returns deal would have to be EU-wide and not just with Ireland.
He added that the UK was prepared to work with Ireland to prevent abuse of the Common Travel Area between the two countries.
“If this legislation is, as I believe it is and I've been assured it is, just setting us back in time to where we were and what we were dealing with, then I'm comfortable with that,” Mr Heaton-Harris said.
“But we are fully behind implementing our Rwanda scheme.”
Mr Martin said: “The Common Travel Area, there will be ongoing discussions around that and it's been overall beneficial to Irish citizens and to UK citizens and we want to maintain those benefits. I think the optimal way to deal with issues around migration is to continue discussion in the context of the Common Travel framework.”
Mr Martin ruled out Ireland launching a legal challenge in the European Court of Human Rights against the Rwanda Plan. Dublin has sued the UK in the Strasbourg court over its Legacy Act, which is an effective amnesty for Troubles-era killers.
“We're not going to the European court on this one,” he said.
Mel Stride, Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, said on Monday morning: “We are not in the business of having more Channel migrants in the UK. We have a situation where people are coming across from France illegally. The French are not prepared to take back the illegal migrants. I don't see why we should have any different situation.
“There are going to be discussions between the Irish Government and ours. I very much doubt we are going to end up in a position where we are going to say we are going to be taking anybody back – not least because, when it comes to France and other EU countries, they are not in the business of taking people back either.”
Helen McEntee, the Irish Justice Minister, pulled out of the conference in what was seen as a tit-for-tat move following a decision on Sunday by James Cleverly, the Home Secretary, to cancel their meeting. Home Office sources cited a diary clash.
Immigration to Ireland rose by 32 per cent in the year ending last April, with asylum seekers accounting for more than 13,000 of over 140,000 arrivals.
Mr Harris said on Sunday: “Every country is entitled to have its own migration policy, but I certainly don't intend to allow anybody else's migration policy to affect the integrity of our own one. This country will not, in any way, shape or form, provide a loophole for anybody else's migration challenges. That's very clear.”
However, Mr Stride was unapologetic about the Rwanda policy. Asked whether it was designed to force migrants into Ireland, he denied that was the case, saying: “The design is to ensure there is a deterrent effect.
“We passed the Rwanda Bill that means those coming here illegally can expect to be removed to Rwanda. What we are already seeing is a deterrent effect kicking in. That's why we are seeing people moving from the UK into Ireland.”
No post-Brexit returns agreement
Before Brexit, the return of migrants to EU countries was governed by the Dublin Agreement, under which migrants could be sent back to a safe third country through which they had passed before arriving at their destination.
This meant asylum seekers arriving in Ireland from the UK, or migrants reaching the UK from France could be returned if it could be shown that they had passed through a safe third country – that is, the UK or France.
But the UK left the scheme when it departed the EU and no successor agreement was signed during the Brexit talks, meaning there are no formal returns agreements in place between EU countries and the UK.
A post-Brexit provision was, however, made in the case of the UK and Ireland, which meant Ireland could return asylum seekers to Britain. No asylum seeker has been returned to Ireland, or vice-versa, under this post-Brexit arrangement since it was struck.
But the Irish High Court last month ruled that the Irish government's declaration of the UK as a “safe third country” to which it could return asylum seekers was unlawful, as a result of the Rwanda Bill. The emergency legislation proposal seeks to overturn this judgment.
Rwanda plan makes returns agreement ‘unpalatable'
EU sources told The Telegraph that the Rwanda plan has made a migrants returns agreement with Britain unpalatable for too many “progressive” European Union governments.
While the bloc's conservative leaders see no merit in a UK-EU returns deal because it would result in “more” asylum seekers being sent from Britain to the Continent.
“The Rwanda stuff will make a deal unpalatable to a whole slew of progressive governments on the EU side,” an EU diplomat said.
“And then there's the question of what the EU gains from a deal with the EU? A deal might only lead to more returns from the UK to the EU. That's not going to win you any votes on the conservative, so what's the incentive?”
The EU will hold bloc-wide elections for the European Parliament in June amid fears populist and nationalist parties will win in at least nine countries on the back of anger over mass migration and Net Zero policies.
Sources said there was also little appetite in sitting down with Britain while the EU is engulfed in its own migration crisis.
“I don't see much interest in a UK-EU migration deal until we've properly sorted out our own migration mess first,” a Brussels insider said.
“Yes, we've agreed on the pact, but that doesn't enter into force for another two years,” they added, referring to new border measures to halt illegal migration across the Mediterranean and through the Balkans.
The “migration pact” seeks to accelerate the processing of asylum applications as well as enables the detention of asylum seekers who have a lower chance of successful bid at the EU's external borders.
Controversially, it also sets up a burden-sharing mechanism that will require the bloc's 27 member states to take in their fair share of migrants landing in just a handful of countries, such as Greece and Italy.
Countries like Poland and Hungary, which have rejected resettling asylum seekers, will be forced to pay a levy to help finance the system for more willing capitals.
At a debate ahead of the EU elections, Ursula Von der Leyen, the European Commission's president, last night rejected that her centre-right European People's Party was pushing a Rwanda-style plan for the bloc.
The top eurocrat, who is vying for a second term in office, went as far to suggest deporting migrants to the African country was a breach of international law.
“This is the UK, and we have nothing to do with it,” she told the audience.
“The UK left the European Union. Let them discuss their issues and we discuss our issues. We have fulfilled our international obligations – and that's very important – in the past, we fulfil them today and we will fulfil them tomorrow. This is absolutely necessary to the Geneva Convention ... the European convention.”
She added: “But I also think it is in order to say that we Europeans are the ones who decide who comes to the European Union and under what circumstances, and not the smugglers and traffickers.
“Therefore, agreements with third countries, for example Tunisia or Egypt, is investing in their economy, investing in their education system to create legal, safe pathways for people to come, also for protection, but not to define for the smugglers and traffickers who comes to the European Union.”
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I like how everyone here is pro free speech until a real speech issue arises lol (331)
This isn't speech, it's trespassing and property damage. (-25)
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All these college kids need to watch the 1981 tv movie The Wave by Alex Grasshof, I saw it in high school and it opened my eyes to how susceptible humans are to this exact situation (1240)
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I'm sorry what is damaged? How are students trespassing? (75)
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Utter nonsense by the brain rot brigade.Genocide has been alleged and is now formally being investigated by the courts. Israel has murdered at least 10,000 plus children, deliberately killed journ*lists, innocent men, and women. Bombed hospitals and lied and lied and been caught in lies.https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/08/genocide-convention-mean-palestine-20608977/?ico=trending-module_tag_israel_item-1 (3)
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Who else could be at fault for israel committing a genocide? Most of these college protests are asking their university to divest of funds/indexes that benefit israel in various ways. It's telling that you have to go to such extremes. These kids dont think theyre going to bring long lasting peace here they just want the genocide to stop. (1)
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But Israel violating humanitarian laws and committing war crimes leaves them blame free of innocent lives? (2)
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Discount Dan with the Casting Couch Plan has filed suit against the HBO documentary that falsely paints him as a child s*x offender