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https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/research/nesarc-iii
!noalcohol imagine being one of those poor souls
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https://9gag.com/gag/agmygmg#comment
One guy films on his 3DS lol
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a very small influencer married into a billionaire family and i am absolutely dying over her demanding this insta handle pic.twitter.com/5asl0O2Vjr
— erb (@bentleyliz2) April 30, 2024
you claimed a username that is not your full name, which is a violation of instagram TOS and and US law. enjoy prison.
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These are literally just the top 13 threads on the sub, as of posting. That's why there's a random 40k thread in there.
Yes I know it's low effort but it's Shabbos, I'm resting.
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Choice quotes from the article itself
The โfeminists are man-hatersโ trope is getting old.
Until recently, refuting these claims has proven difficult. After all, every feminist-hating man has an anecdotal story of โthat one feministโ he knows who definitively hates men. Thankfully, contemporary research has finally given us real, irrefutable evidence that feminists do not, in fact, despise men.
Feminists Won't Coddle Men's Egos
Whereas non-feminist women are likely to excuse or ignore men's bad behavior toward women, feminist women will, more often than not, call it out. They will not pull their punches to spare men's egos. They expect much from men, and will hold them accountable to the behavior they know men are capable of.
And it appears that this is where the man-hating feminist trope has its roots.
Yes, there is ample anecdotal evidence that some feminist women hate men. Following the #MeToo movement, many feminists began actively self-identifying as misandrists (man-haters) in response to the sheer volume of abusive, dangerous men who were exposed during that time. Many feminists and non-feminists alike saw their attitudes toward men evolve as they saw prominent male celebrities, political correspondents and politicians they trusted and admired be called out for their sexual misconduct and attempted cover-ups. For a lot of us, it was a time that eroded our trust in men. For some of us, that trust was never regained.
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But the existence of some feminists who hate men does not prove that all feminists hate men. In fact, although feminism is a movement that seeks to center women's equality and liberation, it has also done much for the liberation of men. After all, men are harmed by patriarchy, too, and feminists seek to abolish all forms of gender-based discrimination that are propped up by patriarchy.
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Now we get into the comments
Moid does everything to please feminists but only gets shit on, continues being a feminist because it's called being a decent person chud.
I mean, to say that feminism hates men is nonsensical because feminism is a broad and diverse ideology that itself can neither hate nor love.
I've done everything that my feminist gender studies professors told me to do as a man. I am gentle, communicate my emotions, try not to be arrogant and speak over people, etc etc etc, and I am a better, more fulfilled man for it.
But... once in awhile I'd like my side to actually advocate for me, and recognize that we still live in a society that excludes men from many things. I'd like my side to recognize that sometimes WOMEN unfairly exclude and hurt men. The advice everyone gave me as a man and as a father, including the school principal and family lawyer? Get a female family member to take my kids to the doctor, because if it had been a woman doing it, this probably wouldn't have happened.
This was extremely depressing for me. Despite being the best man and father and husband I could--- and live up to the feminist ideal of what a man should be--- I was still treated like a predator and abuser by default. So who was advocating for me as a man on this issue? Who was calling this out and calling it unfair??
The only voices I hear are right wing ones, but I am not interested in being the kind of man they want me to be.
Let's be honest... if I went to a feminist sub on Reddit and brought up my woes, would people in that sub be sympathetic? Or would I promptly get banned?
Other men like you are supposed to be advocating for it. But men have been so reliant upon other people, usually women, organizing and structuring neutral gatherings and a lot of existing men's spaces being incredibly toxic means men have to start creating their own communities.
Only right wingers are dishonest and the reason why young people support palestine is because zoomers can just fact check who is more just on the internet
Something I've noticed over the decades is that conservatives tend to think that everyone knows and believes what they know and believe. Therefore, in their mind, anyone who professes to know/believe something different is just lying in order to gain an advantage over the conservative.
Which fits this situation. Since they believe feminist beliefs are wrong and trying to assert power over men, they hate feminists and assume feminists must hate them just as much (if not more). They cannot imagine a world where people just ... believe differently, everyone must be trying to pull a fast one on them.
I mean, that's what THEY do. Conservatives lie all the time about everything, so they assume everyone else does too.
I'm good
They're bad
If I do something bad, they must be doing the same thing, but even worse.
I think the reason this tends to be more prevalent on the right is that they believe in good and bad people, while the left tends to believe in good and bad actions.
Hot take. The rise of leftist thinking among the youth populations is directly correlated to how much easier it has become to actually check whether actions have good and bad consequences. Boomers cannot imagine being able to just gather data on what is and is not helpful for people and society. They favor divine command ethics and virtue ethics because these are much easier to use in low-information ecosystems.
Menslibber calls out the phd article writer for purposely misinterpreting a study
She also links to another article she wrote about the same topic, which interprets the lower benevolence result as:
Meaning, feminists are less likely to coddle, mollify, or excuse men who behave poorly.
These interpretations do not seem to have any basis in the actual study. If you read the study that she cites, the scores for benevolence are measures of benevolent sexism specifically, taken from the 1999 AMI inventory, which measures responses to statements like โEvery woman needs a male partner who will cherish herโ and โMen are more willing to take risks than women.โ A footnote in the study explains, "Conceptually benevolence to men and hostility to men are not indices of positivityโnegativity, but rather they measure stereotyped attitudes to men."
In other words, she is citing a study that found lower benevolence and then is explaining what lower benevolence means, but her explanations are baseless and not supported by the actual study. It is ironic that she is even trying to (baselessly) defend feminists' lower benevolence, because this finding actually signifies that feminists have less stereotyped attitudes towards men.
Menslibber used to be a chud but then he realized that feminists couldn't be misandrists because feminists believe in equality... just like how the DPRK is a true democracy
I used to be skeptical of feminists as well, when I was a teen. I thought many of them were just misandrists. Then I was reminded of the word "misandrist" and realized that was stupid - feminists believe in equality, misandrists "hate men."
Can someone who calls themselves a "feminist" act misandrist, or even be a misandrist? Sure. But they are different things, so that's important to know.
Menslibber volunteers for charity and notices how it somehow turned around to being about women
I volunteered for a men's charity for a while that said it was about challenging what it means to be a man, but all they really did was challenge how being a man affects women, they did talks like "here's how to talk to your friends about sexism and consent" which is very valuable, but when that's ALL hat you do I can understand why some men feel like it paints them as the problem.
Every single press snippet on their website was about the safety of women (which is incredibly important). But when your challenging masculinity charity is more only focused on demonising the behaviour of men towards women, it's like putting a plaster over a wound that needs stitches. It would be more fruitful to help them to understand themselves and express themselves in a healthy way that sends a message that these men are valued as people.
Can you understand why women and feminists main priority may be lowering the rates of sexual violence? And they do that by teaching about consent? I do not understand how you can experience a talk about consent as demonizing men
Menslibber says its only moid foid on social media
This is especially clear on social media spaces like Instagram where men LOVE complaining about women and seem to just genuinely hate women that aren't super submissive "trad-wives"
Menslibber/vaush fan explains that it doesn't make sense for men to ignore what women's expectations for dating purposes because another menslibber told them to, gets btfoed by a janny
One of the most demoralizing things I sometimes read on this subreddit is someone saying that men can't change because women still have expectations of them that fit traditional gender roles.
How true that perception of expectations are is pointless to argue because it differs from place to place and most people talk about their personal experiences anyway... but even if it was 100% true, always - so what? If it's a necessary step for the better, don't play into those expectations. Women don't want to date you because of that? Okay.
"but even if it was 100% true, always - so what? If it's a necessary step for the better, don't play into those expectations. Women don't want to date you because of that? Okay. "
I dont know man.This just feels like a bad concession .Part of appealing to a demographic means addressing issues that said demograpic actually cares about.For alot of guys,especially young guys,thats dating.How to be percieved as attactive to women around me.
Its counter productive and a bit delusional to expect men to ingore what the women they actually come across becasuse some online social tell them so. (entire comment removed)
FOH with that.
Finally we have the removed comments
https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/MensLib/comments/1ccxkhm/_/l194lda/#comment-info
Other men like you are supposed to be advocating for it. But men have been so reliant upon other people, usually women, organizing and structuring neutral gatherings and a lot of existing men's spaces being incredibly toxic means men have to start creating their own communities.
Men have organized movements for millenia, how could you possibly suggest that they simply are too lazy to organize? Men organize on this issue all the time on the right. So why not on the left? Because it is a hostile workplace environment, as evidenced by the very comments you made up above.
I know, because I've tried and I've experienced the phenomenon myself. I have attempted to organize, and I have been met with hostility from people that should be allies. For example: when my wife and I dealt with infertility, I was involved in numerous infertility support groups and ran my own. There were no men, and I wondered why. So I started a subgroup myself and encouraged the women to bring their husbands so that we could get things going.
In doing this, I realized I'd revealed my gender, and I was verbally abused by many of the women there. A few were right winger Bible thumper types who thought I wasn't adhering to God's plan of what a husband/father to be, but even more were self identifying feminists who said I was "invading the sacred space of women" and "just trying to get off on pregnant women." I would have perhaps started an exclusive men's group, but it would have taken years and years to get it up and running and I needed support at that moment, not in 10 years. It's hard to get a men's liberation movement going when the people who are supposed to be your allies are actively tearing you down. The attitude was generally. Their attitude was the same as yours: "You are wrong for expressing your pain when so many others are suffering more."
I had the same issue as a parent of a micro preemie. At the moment of my deepest depression and grief when I needed support, I went to pre-existing support groups. I was met with the same treatment. So I started my own blog and tried to organize. While working. While raising a kid with special needs. But yeah, I get it, I'm a man so I just have to do it all myself with no help, and if I fail, it's all on me.
Do you know how hard it is to try to create a movement from scratch in a busy life? It's like telling a woman in the 19th century to--- if she wanted to be a scientist--- simply to reinvent the entire university system and scientific literature system from scratch.
And yeah, it's nice that you can find a few people in the halls of academia who might actually be earnest advocates, but that doesn't mean much when the actual people in the real world who are supposed to be allies are tearing you down.
Your lecturing me without knowing my experiences is a bit hypocritical when you talk about being patronizing. You think you are the only man who has experienced that kind of pain with a loved one and struggled in a typically non-male space?
I appreciate and commiserate with your story and I am well aware of how hard it is for men to organize these kinds of groups. Yet feminists had to do it in much harsher conditions in the late 19th century to now. Again - those men didn't join the one you tried to create because to a lot of men, it isn't our responsibility. I don't see how your story contradicts my overview. I know a few good men are trying.
It's just the majority of men benefit from our patriarchal society or just don't care.
foid try to not make anything about themselves challenge impossible
https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/MensLib/comments/1ccxkhm/_/l18csfk/#comment-info
It's a lot easier to justify oppressing people who you can convince yourself you hate - and it's easier to hate someone who you can convince yourself hates you.
And unfortunately the whole conservative movement & mediaaphere is a giant machine for manufacturing hate. Hence why, and how, patriarchy gets reproduced.
Do you have any evidence that this is what anti-feminist men are trying to do? It's a common trope, but I only ever see it bandied around in feminist spaces.
When I myself was antifeminist, and when I talked to other antifeminists, our antifeminism was not about trying to justify oppressing women. Rather, it was about trying to stop stereotyping and prejudice towards men. So it is quite ironic that you describe antifeminism as an attempt to justify the oppression of women.
They regularly believe women's place is in the kitchen; that men are physically and mentally superior to women; that men deserve a well-mannered, subservient wife; that female promiscuity is a problem, and that reproductive health should be out of their control; that no-fault divorce shouldn't exist and marital rape is impossible; that sexual harassment and assault isn't a widespread issue;
islam is right about women
https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/MensLib/comments/1ccxkhm/_/l19b8lf/#comment-info
The real perception paradox: reading an article about men who hate feminists that makes feminist men question their stance. /s
Seriously though, there is something very wrong with the tone of the article.
The "all men are responsible for patriarchy" trope is getting old.
https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/MensLib/comments/1ccxkhm/_/l18vo21/#comment-info
Mods, are y'all going too hard on some of the comments? There was one that I wanted to respond to that's now deleted, and the person said they were once antifeminist but now they weren't. These are people who have learned that what they thought was wrong, and grew from it. Or they're explaining how they came to believe what they did believe. These things can and should absolutely be included in discourse about those who aren't feminist. Who knows what would work better to change someone than someone who has changed?
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/u/ChamberedAndHot is so much fun, they WORDS WORDS WORDS about how much fun they are.
Don't believe him? He's active in /r/Fauxmoi! He's also, and may Allah forgive me for saying this, a SRDine. He's been posting his on Hinge to the discussion thread lmao
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A reminder that I once taught math to budding LAPD police cadets and they were the dumbest 18 year olds I'd ever met. Was teaching them the same things I was tutoring a 6th grader. Forever will influence my opinion of the police https://t.co/WJSic4QYd2
— Pole Doctress, MD ๐ (@PoleDoctress) April 25, 2024
https://www.joinlapd.com/qualifications
Must be 21 before graduation
Jake Shields, Professional Cute twink R-slur, Racist, and UFC has-been, agrees:
https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1783696911230488639
The overlap between ralibs and nazis is pretty interesting too see, especially from the group that's like "I totally would have dome the right thing in Germany in the 30s"
The ppl in my mentions calling me a bad math teacher like lol. Doesn't change the fact that police officers are dumb and are literally not obligated to help you. I'm sure the next time you need help, they'll be sure to do nothing
I'm a doctor now, and in an emergency, you'll get more help from a doctor than a police officer
https://twitter.com/poledoctress/status/1783880530704117941
@ElverGalarga is sure she is, but also judging by the admissions requirements of UC Med Programs for BIPOCS, she probably is.
Q21: If you swing your baton at a peaceful protestor's head at 1.5m/s and your arm is 36in long, how long until Qualified Immunity protects you?
- Anakinra Skywalker, BSN, RN
What's the over/under this is a ?
Hematology/Oncology/ Immunology Transplant Nurse!! Let's make compassion in nursing great again!!! I can also be found flying in the Sky that's Blue.
https://twitter.com/aramid_asan/status/1783572970126078251
We also should not be recruiting 18 year olds to be police officers
Good thing they don't, then.
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(RIP BlackPeopleTwitter)
!peakpoors Go dunk on them while you still can
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Whenever a woman posts about being happy single and childless at 30+ y/o men are always in the comments saying something along the lines of โthis is cope, if you were truly happy you wouldn't be posting about itโ.
And thing is a woman can't be happy single and childless together because women are social creatures and will get a huge depression if they have nobody near them and western women are home enough that they also often have distant relationship with parents and family
I guess by that logic women who post about their happy marriages are also secretly miserable and โcopingโ.
That's also often true but women love to brag and dunk on another women so if it was man who wrote how happy married he is than that would been suspicious
Also, thinking that women are โexpiredโ at 30 is so delusional. You can definitely get married in your 30s and even 40s. Men who watch that redpill bullshit have really lost the sense of real world.
She subconsciously shows she knows it becomes pain in butt to get married to a good man that โand evenโ is cherry on top
I mean of course all women in the west can marry someone living in third world and bring them to the west it's not hard and possible at any age but that ain't happening because western equality loving women don't want to betabuxx a man. And in the west at 30+ there more straight women than men and successful men that those foids want don't care about their roasties asses.
After checking her profile
https://old.reddit.com/r/s*x/comments/1ccx4uc/having_sex_on_antidepressants_as_a_woman/
Her post about women being happy single would had more weight behind if she didn't had s*x after using antidepressants 6 days ago so she probably recently broken up
She is having dreams about having bi son
Also she is pooping on Trump while she is apparently Russian living in Russia
She also must be 24 or younger
So literally an r-slur
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It was a profound exchange.
On Thursday, as justices of the U.S. Supreme Court heard extensive oral arguments over whether Donald Trump, as a former president, is totally immune from criminal prosecution for actions taken while he was in office, it began with a series of questions to special counsel attorney Michael Dreeben from Justice Samuel Alito.
Alito, more than an hour into proceedings, started to press Dreeben about whether the prosecution of a president would undermine the stability of a country's governance. It would seem easily agreeable, the justice argued, that a โstable, democratic societyโ required a defeated candidate to leave office peacefully if he lost an election.
โEven a close one,โ Alito said. โEven a hotly contested one.โ
Dreeben easily agreed but when Alito asked what may change if that same outgoing incumbent realized he couldn't head off into โpeaceful retirementโ after a defeat but โmay be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent,โ would that not lead the country into a destructive cycle of destabilizing democracy, too?
For the special counsel's attorney, the reasoning was โexactly the opposite.โ
Mechanisms already exist to contest elections that are both legal and far more appropriate. Dreeben took the window to remind the court that Trump lost every lawsuit he raised to challenge the 2020 election, save for one and that outcome wasn't โdeterminative,โ he said.
Alito's argument appeared to strike a solemn but dissonant chord in Justice Sonia Sotomayor after the back-and-forth with Dreeben.
Turning to Dreeben, the justice asked if the โstable democracy societyโ required the โgood faith of its public officialsโ and that โgood faithโ would assume those officials would loyally follow the laws of the United States.
โCorrect,โ Dreeben said.
But putting that ideal situation aside for a moment and considering the real world, Sotomayor remarked that โthere is no fail-safe system of government.โ
โMeaning, we have a judicial system that has layers and layers and layers of protection for accused defendants in the hopes that the innocent will go free,โ she said. โWe fail routinely.โ
The justice continued:
But we succeed, more often than not, in the vast majority of cases and the innocent do go free. Sometimes they don't and we have some post-conviction remedies for that. But we still fail, and we've executed innocent people.
Having said that, Justice Alito went through step by step all of the mechanisms that could potentially fail.
In the end, if it fails completely, it's because we've destroyed democracy on our own, isn't it?
Dreeben argued that the framers of the Constitution designed the separation of powers to avoid โ or, at minimum, limit โ the abuses of a democratic system.
โThe ultimate check is the goodwill and faith in democracy and the crimes that are alleged in this case are the antithesis of democracy,โ he said.
Trump faces four felony charges in Washington, D.C., connected to his alleged effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
Separate of this exchange on Thursday, there are many other notable moments at arguments including Justice Neal Gorsuch dreading the idea of having to face the issue of whether a president can issue a self-pardon and Justice Amy Coney Barrett asking a Trump lawyer if he conceded that private acts are not protected.
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i immediately came to after my actions and wanted to throw up in the shower, i was shaking and crying and hyperventalating
lmao that is some intense post nut clarity
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JUST IN: Justice Alito just blew up the entire argument by the DOJ.
— ๐บ๐ธTravis Media Group๐บ๐ธ (@TM1Politics) April 25, 2024
Alito: "If the president gets advice from the attorney general, that something is lawful, is that an absolute defense?"
Dreeben: โyesโ
Alito: โWouldnโt the President just pick an AG whoโll let him doโฆ pic.twitter.com/T2L7u29nZU
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Only pure blooded blue eyed scandinavian women should be considered white, all other women are just nigresses