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(not the deleted Longpost :marseycry:)

Greetings Dramastrags

At some point in 2006, an unknown politician got the galaxy brained idea :marseybigbrain: to NOT pay ESKOM their dues for supplying his specific city district in the Free State, electricity. The reason was simple - he was a politician trying to cater to his poor as dirt base, and came up with the idea that he would lower taxes under his specific regime, and the shortfall would be cut directly from the payments meant for ESKOM, out of his municipal annual budget.

After all, electricity was one of the rights protected and guaranteed by the National Government and even limitedly guaranteed by the SA constitution. ESKOM would never dare to cut off electricity for the poorest of black township dwellers, no matter how much they raved and raved. The idea was simple. Promise constituents lower taxes than could not be realistically expected, while still providing the minimally required civil services. Cut shortfall from ESKOM payments. ESKOM high command cannot disable electricity without accusations of human rights abuse against their own citizens. Politician who created this debt retires, and fricks off without a worry. Then it's the next fool's problem. No really.

The next election, a new smartass promises the same bullshit of low taxes or not having to pay electricity bills under their regime, and the ESKOM debt keeps ballooning. The political competition in these townships with morals and braincells, aka the ones who do NOT promise that the townships won't have to pay zero electrical bills, have no chance to be voted into that municipality's command. And the ESKOM budget keeps ballooning, over and over.

Finally 15 years later, the Free State having already struggled with electricity demands, is one of the worst of the 9 provinces stuck under National Loadshedding Catastrophe.

Who the originator was of this tactic is now shrouded in myth, because so many politicians in the Free State copied this election tactic, that it became a fricking norm by the end of 2006.


WITNESS THE HORROR SHOW:

https://mg.co.za/article/2018-07-16-eskom-to-cut-power-to-two-free-state-municipalities-from-over-non-payment/

In 2018 there was loadshedding before we truly had an understanding of it in the Tokologo and Nala municipalities. The two absolute worsts and most infamously corrupt municipal regions in the entire province. If the municipalities still failed to pay ESKOM, then from July 24 the power supply would be cut for 14 hours between 6am and 8pm. Basically ESKOM would have played hardball with the extremely indebted councils till they started paying what they owed.

=======(from article)

The municipalities entered into an agreement with Eskom on June 25, a day before they were supposed to have power supply cut off due to non-payment.

They had to pay a certain amount of money at the end of June and again on July 13, but then reneged on these agreements and only made some of the payments at the end of June. According to Phasiwe, they completely omitted the payment on July 13.

“Since they failed to pay, we have to withdraw that product for that particular period we mentioned,” he said.

“Let’s put it this way, the only way for them to get themselves out of this situation is if they come with a huge sum of money,” he said. Tokologo municipality owes R30-million.

“If they come with R5-million, we will not buy their story because we have already seen they are not in a position to honour the agreement.”

========(end of article)

And the poor citizens would be the ones paying for Nala's bullshit, can you imagine that?

https://mg.co.za/article/2015-03-01-eskom-threatens-to-turn-off-the-lights-in-free-state-towns/


To further shed light on the rot and reasons why modern ESKOM is in such a poor state, and how Loadshedding came to be, we only have to look at the Free State's insurmountable debt which had grew to such an extent, that they have started to be unable to even afford to pay the interest on these fricking loans.

https://mg.co.za/article/2018-05-17-00-the-top-ten-municipal-culprits-not-paying-eskom-debt/

"The top 10 defaulting municipalities owe Eskom R9.73-billion, and a parliamentary committee has resolved to meet with them to find out why they are not paying their debts."

The national government had to come down to the backwater of Free State just to ask our clowns why the frick they were not paying their dues.

==========(from article)

The standing committee on public accounts (Scopa) on Wednesday was briefed by Eskom, the Department of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs, the South African Local Government Association and National Treasury to find out what efforts are being made to address escalating municipal debt owed to Eskom.

Eskom chairperson Jabu Mabuza told Scopa that since the last meeting with the committee in March, debt had risen to R13.88-billion. Eskom previously told the committee on public enterprises in April that debt stood at R13.5-billion.

Over 12 months during the year 2017/18, municipal debt swelled by 40% or R4.16-billion :marseyscared::marseyscared::marseyscared: , said Eskom’s group executive of customer services Ayanda Noah.

The Free State, Mpumalanga and North West were among the worst offenders, while Gauteng and the Northern Cape also raised concern, according to Eskom’s submission to Parliament. The submission also revealed the top 10 defaulting municipalities.

========(end article)


https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209193913114.webp

The next list is basically boring detail, so feel free to skip, and ignore. I'm only including them just to demonstrate how fricking surgical our journ*lists are at identifyig the precise problem local governments, and to even be able to identify exactly how fricking much they owe to ESKOM, and yet nothing is done by our Provincial or National government to remove these parasites. This is what's meant when we say corruption is done openly in South Africa The top ten defaulting municipalities are:

1 - Maluti-A-Phofung in the Free State: (FREE STATE NUMBAH ONE B-WORD!!! :marseyparty::marseyparty::marseyparty:)

This municipality owes Eskom R2.8-billion. It has over 11 000 Eskom customers and no payment arrangements have been made with the power utility. A court process is still under way and until it has been concluded, applicants have to pay Eskom directly.

2 - Matjhabeng in the Free State: This municipality owes Eskom R1.8-billion. It has over 49 000 Eskom customers and there is a draft payment arrangement.

3 - eMalahleni in Mpumalanga: This municipality owes Eskom R1.6-billion and has over 117 000 Eskom customers. There is a payment arrangement but it is not being adhered to. A court interdict is currently stopping Eskom from interrupting power.

4 - Ngwathe in the Free State: This municipality owes Eskom R936-million and does not have Eskom customers. There is a payment arrangement with the municipality which is being adhered to.

5 - Emfuleni in Gauteng: This municipality owes Eskom R606-million and has over 29 000 Eskom customers. There is a payment arrangement which is being adhered to.

6 - Govan Mbeki in Mpumalanga: This municipality owes Eskom R517-million and has over 6 600 Eskom customers. There is a payment arrangement but it is not being adhered to. The court will hear the matter on May 21 2018.

7 - Lekwa in Mpumalanga: This municipality owes Eskom R491-million and has over 6 400 Eskom customers. There is a payment arrangement but it is not being adhered to. There is a court interdict and customers have to pay Eskom directly.

8 - Thaba Chweu in Mpumalanga: This municipality owes Eskom R431-million and has over 61 300 Eskom customers. There is a payment arrangement but it is not being adhered to. There is currently a court interdict to prevent Eskom from interrupting power supply.

9 - Ditsobotla in the North West: This municipality owes Eskom R293-million and has over 43 000 Eskom customers. There is a payment arrangement but it is not being adhered to. There is a court interdict, ordering customers to pay Eskom directly.

10 - Naledi in the North West: This municipality owes Eskom R280-million and has over 17 500 Eskom customers. There is a payment arrangement but it is not being adhered to. The matter was set to go before the courts on May 16.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209195289435.webp

The point is these municipalities are SO CORRUPT, they make eskom look benign in comparison.

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2023-03-24-these-are-the-five-municipalities-that-owe-eskom-the-most/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209182354395.webp


https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-09-13-culture-of-non-payment-leaves-eskom-with-a-r50bn-debt-headache/

Just look at this magnificent INFOgraphic by the DailyMacerick:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209183299744.webp

Heey I've worked for these r-slurs in Matjhabeng!


BUT FREE STATE ALONE IS ALMOST A BLACK HOLE OF TAXES:

https://www.news24.com/fin24/free-state-municipalities-owe-eskom-almost-r2bn-20150505

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209192900772.webp


https://www.news24.com/fin24/Economy/Eskom/r135bn-municipal-debt-burden-really-beyond-eskom-20180418

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209191835907.webp

The unpaid debt began to become so vast by 2018, in both the Free State and country as a whole, that ESKOM, could no longer afford all of the costs associated with generating electricity, such as buying coal, paying drivers, and maintaining Power Stations.

And the worst part was that these corrupt leaches who dominated in the local governments for the ANC would fight ESKOM every step of the way to not pay their fricking debts, or even the interest upon their debts.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209191003618.webp


Even as late as 2022, it's still continuing.

https://www.news24.com/news24/politics/parliament/no-money-and-no-electricity-maluti-a-phofung-in-governance-freefall-as-eskom-debt-balloons-20221124

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209189789553.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209188541512.webp

https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/16-free-state-municipalities-owe-eskom-over-r17-billion/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209185342612.webp

“Even in these trying times, Eskom is expected to provide electricity to these municipalities while maintaining its networks and paying for diesel to ensure security supply and meet demand. Municipal debt puts an immense burden on Eskom revenue stream which negatively affects service delivery, we urge both eskom and municipal customers to use electricity legally and to pay for all services when due,” says Makhetha.


ESKOM WON DEBT COURT CASE IN 2020:

https://www.esi-africa.com/southern-africa/court-confirms-eskoms-right-to-payment-for-services-rendered/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209187393062.webp

The tax money owed to ESKOM by these indebted municipalities had to be forced out of them every step of the way via courts and external forces. It's the height of corruption.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209180991485.webp

They tried to bring ESKOM to the court that ESKOM cannot shut down elec as that would influence human rights of township dwellers negatively, and that that was the basis for them not having to pay - I'm not joking. They had to go to the Supreme court to determine that there was no legal basis for not paying their fricking electricity bill - on a national level LMOA.

https://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/eskom-vs-municipalities-that-owe-billions-concourt-to-rule-on-human-catastrophe-2022-05-24

ESKOM even went to the South African constitutional court to make it legal that it should not be compelled to provide Elektricity for non paying municipalities.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881209180115242.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1688120917889261.webp

"We don't know why it is not paid over to Eskom." Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage:


SO WHY DOESN'T MUNICIPALITIES NOT JUST PAY?

It's because they literally steal everything not nailed down. They bloat their own salaries beyond what the standard is, and leave virtually nothing left for regular maintenance, or paying the monthly/annual municipal expenses. And it's open and blatant and absolutely fricking apparent. The steriyotype of municipal workers driving BMWs with black tinted-windows didn't come from nowhere. ANC municipal leaders, whom are nothing more than basic secretaries, driving across Free State potholes in their BMWs are the apex of the Free State shitshow. WHERE DID THEY GET THAT MONEY??

https://www.citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/courts/maluti-a-phofung-managers-money-5-may-2022/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16881208116555068.webp

While low level workers don't even get their minimum pay

https://www.ofm.co.za/article/centralsa/318989/free-state-municipality-yet-to-pay-over-450-workers

https://www.news24.com/citypress/news/two-months-without-salaries-for-free-state-municipal-workers-20220628

And they can't afford to do basic maintenance like pothole rehabilitation or fixing water pipes

https://www.polity.org.za/article/bloemwater-budget-meets-only-6-of-matjhabeng-maintenance-requirements-2023-02-27

=====(from article about Bloemwater)

The national Department of Water and Sanitation has acknowledged that Bloemwater has a budget shortfall of R377 million to address the maintenance backlog in Matjhabeng Local Municipality regarding water infrastructure.

In a written parliamentary reply to the Democratic Alliance (DA), the Minister of Water and Sanitation, Senzo Mchunu, indicated that Bloemwater has allocated R25,2 million for the maintenance of infrastructure, whilst it needs R402 million to address the maintenance backlog.

Matjhabeng loses 56% of its water due to failing infrastructure, per year, amounting to R324 million worth of water lost, according to the latest Auditor General report.

The DA calls on the Premier, Mxolisi Dukwana, to include in his State of the Province Address tomorrow some indication of how the Free State provincial government will work with the national government to urgently address this slippery slope to ensure that Matjhabeng is not forced into a full-scale crisis soon. Residents of Riebeeckstad were without water for 7 weeks :soycry::soycry::soycry::soycry::soycry::soycry::soycry::soycry::soycry::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyaaa::marseyaaa::marseyaaa::marseyaaa::marseyaaa::marseyaaa::marseyaaa: recently and their water problems have still not completely been resolved.

========(End of article)

I was there in Riebeeckstad, I had to sleep over in town there for long distance farm work nearby, and I could not fricking shower for 7 weeks!!!!1111111 :marseyaaa::marseyaaa::marseyaaa:

https://www.news24.com/citypress/news/state-runs-out-of-cash-struggles-to-pay-salaries-20190701

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1688120811902026.webp


Anyway that's uh all I got, I don't know how to end this one.

:marseyplugged:

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You know that one uncle at the family reunion that says the quiet part out loud? "I stopped watching sports because of all those fricking BIPOCs!" Well I found where he posts online.

To the unassuming, Caste Football seems like your normal sportstrag website.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687726337901363.webp

... Until you click on one of the threads.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687726338016713.webp

Literally every sports threads is like this. Football, Baseball, Basketball, all of it is just them compiling lists of mayo athletes and crying "white genocide!" when a mayo gets cut from the team. Welcome to Caste Football!

As mentioned above, every sport thread on there is just them crying over mayos not getting picked for the draft, while this is amusing, it get's repetitive really fast. So what I'll do is go through the forums and provide links to the threads I thought were interesting.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16877263381621404.webp

An honest dialogue about sports and race by definition will include negative observations about an individual or race, but if your objective is simply to attack a group of people go elsewhere.

:marseysurejan:



An Outsider's Perspective on this Website

I did a bit of research, but it's hard to really find anything unless you specifically go in trying to find it. If this site wants to convince me, or anyone else, then it needs to do its own analysis. There is no wool over my eyes; if someone presented me with an actual scientific study of what's going on, and it proved your conclusion, I'd be a lot more convinced than I could ever be by surfing rivals.com and checking out random recruits.

First of all olp we have nothing to prove to you. In fact it's the other way around,you prove yourself to this site. You say you need charts,comparisons, and examples of the caste system at work all of which this site repeatedly does on a regular basis. Get to looking at some popular threads.

>Not our job to educate you, jew :marseynails:

Worth noting that this thread was started in 2013 and they're still seething at this guy.

Good point. Negroes mature physically much faster than do the higher races. All the lower animals do.

>We're not racist btw :marseynails:


The Flat Circular Disc Non Rotating Earth

I don’t get it? Why the 10,000 year conspiracy to hide that the Earth is really flat? That’s a lot of work millions of people have engaged in to keep the lie secret.

I love how you ignore the evidence where our government and NASA among countless others have a flat non rotating earth in their documents. All the aeronautical engineering firms, sattelite compaines, etc. Why is that flint? Yet they push the opposite truth. I will tell you why. It's to disprove God. They hate God and Jesus. The theory of evolution and the big bang are equally stupid and easily debunked. Why don't you ever address the videos and the documented evidence? It's an open shut case. I've seen the NASA documents. Pause the film over and over and then research it. They admit it. You keep believing your pipe dream.

It's not only to disprove that God made the earth. It's because they make billions & trillions of dollars since the 1960's in funding. They would be stupid to end that with the truth. If the truth comes out, how do tax payers get their money back? We don't. It's a magic act on a dumbed down population that will believe anything. Covid was an IQ test. Sit down and take off your mask, You won't catch it now.

Of freaking course they have a flat earth thread :marseylaugh:

Whites on our side have more important things to do than bicker about flat earth and moon landings though.

:#surejan:


Boycott these products!

The first product I can remember "boycotting" was Cheerios. About ten years ago, they ran a series of ads with a white woman dressed in a business suit making breakfast in a hurry. Her black husband/boyfriend lounged on the couch, eating his cereal in peace. These ads were obviously aimed at women, who were meant to see themselves as powerful professionals, heads of household, and also able to win the bread for a lazy live-in boyfriend. The sexual implication was loud and up front, and the interracial aspect was at the time still new, eye-catching, and shocking. It was simple for me to say to myself, "This company hates me, so I will never eat Cheerios again." Unfortunately, this sort of commercial is completely commonplace less than a decade later.

Imagine being angry at a cereal commercial for 10 years :marseylaughwith:


Obama aka Barry Soetero Involved in Group Interested in buying Suns

Seething at Obama for wanting to buy his own team. :chudtantrum:


Kobe Bryant

A thread about Kobe's death goes as well as you would expect.

The author, as he always does, deliberately ignores the Jewish factor (for example, he writes "how do we explain a black-centric culture that is run exclusively by….whites?"); he's smarter than that, but still a good rant.

Our Kardashian Culture

:marseywords: :marseywords: :marseywords:


Someone in the media asked the Commish today...

Apparently after starting 57 Super Bowls with two white quarterbacks, it'll be Black quarterbacks. The not-racist-just-observing castefootballcels were not happy.

Yes it's not the Days of Leave It to Beaver anymore. The world is at war against all whites. We must unite in order to have any chance to survive as a people. White's must start to think and act like minorities when it comes to always think your people first at all times. We will be surrouded everywhere and sticking together along with trusting God is our best chance.


Racist Double Standards in Boxing

A whole thread of strawmanning.

No, they didn't used to just mock our guys by calling them great white hypes and hopes, but they also called them "great white dopes", and I'm not talking about the little BIPOClets and wiglets on the boxing forums. they just parrot what they see in the media. i'm talking about the mass media. For example here's one clever talmudic fellow, michael zinberg, who named this 1979 tv episode "The Great White Dope", and you can see what's probably a hapless white athlete in the back row. And that's why I call them great black dopes now. :marseyseethe:


Most superior race in Boxing? is it Whites, Blacks, Asians, Middle eastern, Eurasians , Polynes

There have been highly successful boxers of all races. In my own opinion, race is irrelvant when it comes to saying who makes a better boxer. It comes down to amateur experience and mentality.

:marseyrage: what a completely ******** Post.One of the worst posts Ive ever seen. Race is not 'irrelevent' at all. It's very relevant, because there is clearly superior races and superior nations when it comes to fighting. There has clearly been far more successful boxers by some races than there has others, so I don't know why you are lying and being a snowflake. :marseywords: :marseywords: :marseywords:

Also this guy who's not being very subtle:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16877263384082952.webp


Demonic Possession?

And frankly, the biggest reason I see in favor of it’s existing is that it’s to the demons’ advantage for us not to believe in it.

:#marseysmugretard:


Nick Fuentes

I hope you're correct. But, my gut is that he isn't in same category as Torba. Much like Anthony Cumbia or that Jesse Lee Peterson I get the sense Fuentes may have weird perversions. I'd like to be wrong.

:marseyclueless:


Is there a chance of a USA-Russia war in the near future?

Yes, the puppet (((President))) of Ukraine was installed by Obama and Biden during that glow-op “color revolution”

I really want to know what his opinion of Ukraine was before the invasion started.

Good things happening and as Ambrose stated, the Ukrainian citizens are not a target. Hopefully there will be very little collateral damage to ordinary citizens that had no part in the foreign occupying forces that were installed. The illegitimate ZOG government is the problem and it's an age old problem our own ZOG creates far too often. Heck, once is too many times.

If any lurkers want to know who to root for in any given situation, just see who our (((media))) is rooting for and who they bad-mouth. It's an easy call then.

>I am a free thinker


Commercials we HATE!!!!

A thread with 49 pages and over 10 years of seething at commercials.

The other one is practically unwatchable and disgusting where a white guy licks the cheese off of the fingers of a black guy who just ate dorito's. Can you imagine such a commercial 20 years ago? That is how fast and far we have fallen.

:marseyemojirofl:


Artificial Intelligence

This is being pushed worldwide faster than we can even imagine. Here is a video about where this A.I. comes from. Can you say Demons and the Fallen Angels? The Artificial Intelligence admited it. He said his father is Satan.

:marseypearlclutch:

When you have people like Bill Gates. George Soros, Klauss Schwaub, and Yuval Harari in charge among other psychopaths what do you think could happen? Microsoft, Google, Facebook, UN, WEF, WHO and many other people who all serve the wrong god and are the ones programming it. Gee what could go wrong with people that preach the world is overpopulated and we must get rid of billions of people. Go ahead and don't worry. Nothing to see here so move right along.

:marseyslipperyslope:


Even Nick Fuentes

The other thread about Nick Fuentes. This one got locked because they couldn't stop sperging about the Jews.


Please re-read the guidelines

The admin reminds everyone that saying racial slurs is against the rules. Boomers debate if the n-word is a slur.


Steroids and Black Athletes

The last time a white won the 100m. gold won was in 1980. An article I found chronicles only of a fraction of caught cheats of the past 25 years. Oh, what a coincidence. That was about when? Oh, yea...1980! Most to all of these cheaters are black

>T-they cheated! That's why white boy can't run! :marseycope:


Weeping Wussies

While I can understand how someone might get misty eyed once in a while I am shocked at the number of men who cry openly like girls, often for the silliest of reasons. It is part of the pussifiacation of the male species and I feel some public shaming is necessary to get those wimps to man up. So here are a few of the ones I have seen recently and I'm afraid the trend is going to get even worse. Feel free to post others that you see so we can scoff at their lack of cajones.

Here's Newt Gingrich crying about his mommy

Mocking a guy for crying about his dead mother. Very few things unironically make me angry over the internet and brother this is one of them. :ragestrangle:


A glimpse of living life in Russia

Again, I really want to know what they're opinions of Russia and Ukraine were before the invasion.

Here is a video of a youtube channel about russia. These are the people that they say are so evil. I would be willing to be that many americans would trade places in a second. :chudsmug:

Obligatory move there If you like it so much comment.


Christianity

The whole thread is just them going "Praise Jesus! Peace and love! FRICKING BIPOCS!" :marseyxd:

Christianity has saved the white race many times down through the ages. Waring factions in Europe that would never unite for race, did so for Christianity. And together under the banner of Christianity and only in its defense, they expelled a foreign religion but also expelled the "Parasite" race that harbored it......

As we all know Christianity brought the white man together and ended all wars in Europe.


The greatest athletes are black

I’m glad to see a troll found the site. I’m sure the search engines make it difficult to find.

:#marseydevil:


Vaxx Attack

The unseen swine calling themselves the "Federal Government" have cobbled together small groups of Covidwitnesses to come-a-calling on your door seeking more converts. Here's what to do if they come for you:

  1. Take a look who it is either good guy or bad guy. If bad guy don't open the door.

  2. If caught off guard when the Covidwitnesses knock, just shake your head and shut the door.

  3. Don't talk. Talking won't do you any good.

That's it. Easy as that.

:marseyschizowall:


2020 Election

So far they're saying that things look good for Trump!

:marseydarkxd:

Anyone still watching? I think Trump has won but the Dems are simply trying to find ways the steal the election. Trump should come out and declare victory.

:marseydarkxd:

Trump WINS election; Democrats now working overtime to STEAL it by fabricating hundreds of thousands of votes in Michigan and Wisconsin

:marseydarkxd:

It's clear the satanic Democrats are trying to steal the election. They f*cked with the wrong White Man in Trump. These lawsuits and subsequent recounts will show the utter crimes in fixing and dumping massive amounts of bogus ballots

:marseydarkxd:

I have a couple of friends that are Q people and they are still trusting the plan. To me however that speech sounded like it's over and done..

:marseydarkxd:

It's official we are on our own. Trump played a marvelous role acting and now it's on to The Biden Administration.

:marseyemojirofl: :marseyemojirofl: :marseyemojirofl:


Stormfront

To no ones surprise the CFBcels are also Stormstrags.

I've only visited a few times and I thought that it was pretty decent and not over the top considering how large and diverse the website is. No problem with it. It has a wide variety of discussion topics and seems to have mostly informed members.

:#surejan:


War on Christmas

The enternal persecution fetish.


Sports Illustrated list of The 50 Greatest Soccer players of all time

The list elects the 50 Greatest players in the history of Football( The author says that he chose by the peak of each) The list was made in 2019, Of the 50 players on the list 37 were white, I don't agree with the list

Grrr this 50 best list only has 37 white people on it!!!!! :chudtantrum:


Jewish influence in modern football

To summarize, Jews started to get more interested in Football after WWII when it became increasingly clear that a) there was serious money to be made in this sport... and... b) it was an excellent propaganda tool for globalization and multiculturalism.

This website is just for cheering on overlooked white athletes, btw :marseynails:


Non-white footballers you admire

but in the future, i would like soccer to be reserved to white people, like it used to be

As we all know mayos invented soccer and it's cultural appropriation if you play while not-white.


Two sports I want eliminated in High School

Despite ESPN and their "limited" coverage the two sports that help keep the caste system alive and well are volleyball and lacrosse.

These are havens for white athletes who disappear up a black hole while the black athletes star in the true media driven sports like baseball, basketball and football.

Volleyball takes away too many white players from playing basketball.

And lacrosse sucks potential white athletes away from baseball and football. And soccer to a lesser extent.

>Mayos are too good at these other sports! T-thats why they don't get drafted into the NFL! :marseycope:


The Caste Gestapo

Dude, the U.S. Constitution has absolutely NO bearing on your posting here. That notion is bizarre and comical. Don't be offended. CF is a private space. When you enter a private space the proprietor makes the rules as fits the proprietor. :chudsmug:

This is coming from the same guy who cried about the big social websites making it so you can't say the n-word on their platform.



Phew, well that's it for me, I'm throwing in the towel.

A particular thing I noticed was that almost every thread was the same group of posters posting in them. Every topic, every thread, these guys would find someway to cry about how it's the Jews fault that white boy can't jump.

My favorite poster was the jannie white lightning. He's woke enough to see that songs from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers are proof of the Earth being flat. :marseysmugretard:

!forumposters chads, I have found a sports forum.

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EFFORTPOST strag shit ignore :marseysleep: August Ames - Frick Ya'll [The Limits of "s*x work"]

I believe the case of August Ames is a prime example of why s*x cannot be unproblematically commodified, and that the concept of "s*x work" is inherently flawed.

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BACKGROUND

Born in Canada in 1994, August Ames was a pornographic actress. She entered the industry at the tender age of 19. She has appeared in over 100 pornographic films and she has been awarded four times at the AVN Awards, including one for Performer of the Year.

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THE TRAUMA OF AUGUST AMES

What makes a woman do porn at 19? Surely she must be a horny slut who doesn't want to work, right? Let's learn a little about her upbringing and see what goes into creating your source of lust on the screen:

  • Ames alleged that she was routinely sexually molested by her paternal grandfather as a child

  • Her father refused to believe her and at 12 years old she was sent to live in a group home

  • When she was just 15, however, she claimed the father of a child she was babysitting told her he would provide cocaine if she would strip down naked, so she did.

  • “It was just awful. It’s still recent where I have to keep myself occupied or else I start thinking about all that shit and then I fall into a depression,” she shared. “I try to do therapy. I hate that word. I hate therapy.”

Understandably, this has left her utterly traumatized. She cannot stop the bad memories, and they incapacitate her.

  • “Some days I’ll be fine, and if I’m not doing anything I’ll get these awful flashbacks of my childhood and I get very depressed and I can’t get out of bed and cancel my scenes for like a week or two,” Ames admitted.

https://canoe.com/entertainment/celebrity/porn-star-august-ames-spoke-about-childhood-molestation-drug-abuse-before-death

As psychotherapy tells us, the mind desires closure. When it cannot find it, it will revisit the moment of trauma and relive it to attempt to understand what went wrong. If there is no meaning to be found, that is the point where the mind gets stuck - logic and reason have failed.

Enjoy your slut.

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AMES IN THE INDUSTRY

Ames was r*ped repeatedly while doing porn. This is to be expected - she is stuck in a cycle of abuse being exploited by pornographers and consumers. The production of commercial pornography is contingent on stochastic grooming. Nobody in a place of centralized power has to order women to be sexually traumatized - it is guaranteed to happen in part by the proliferation of objectifying material. The traumatized women are then used in the industry to make the very material that will lead to more women being sexually traumatized. It is a vicious cycle. Undoubtedly, Ames made pornography that will teach men to objectify women, and those men will go on to traumatize more women who will enter the industry.

In 2017, Ames sent the following to her friend via text following the shooting of a scene with porn actor Markus Dupree:

  • “Yesterday was totally unprofessional and I wanted to die.”

  • "He was dragging me around and choked me with my panties, slamming my head down on the table and was just WAY too rough and the scene didn’t even call for it. I was so enraged that when he pulled me down to kiss him I just spat in his face.”

  • "I was literally in panic mode so I froze and didn’t say no or stop."

https://x.com/LailaMickelwait/status/1227453609408966661

Men have masturbated to this scene of this woman being r*ped on camera. Some of them are probably in this very post. There are also men still making money from the r*pe scene right now. Ames' mother has corroborated these allegations:

  • “She was forced into situations where she was very poorly treated—beyond poorly treated. She was manhandled by her co-star, [Dupree] roughed her up. He left marks on her so badly that she couldn’t work for a couple of weeks.”

https://www.monstersandcritics.com/celebrity/hilary-rivera-august-ames-mother-makes-new-allegations-against-markus-dupree/

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THE DEATH OF AMES

In 2017, Ames was asked to appear in a scene with a co-star who had performed in gay porn. I'd like for you to think about Ames' life for a moment. All the times she has been molested and r*ped, and had no power to stop it. I was literally in panic mode so I froze and didn’t say no or stop. For once, ONCE, in her life, she decided to display sexual autonomy and say no - she did not want to have s*x with a bisexual man.

The consequence? Instant ostracization in the industry along with non-stop internet harassment. In no uncertain terms, the world told her once again, that her sexual consent DOES NOT MATTER. It is irrelevant. You exist to make others orgasm, and the cost to you is not worth taking into consideration. In response, August Ames hanged herself. This is her last tweet:

https://x.com/AugustAmesxxx/status/937834002768990208

Please think about the full context of events. This was not a woman simply bearing the brunt of online criticism. This was a woman being told that her existence is to take peepee whether she likes it or not. Is there anything more destructive to the human spirit than to be told that your suffering is meaningless and moves nobody?

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THE AUTOPSY

The medical autopsy revealed that she died of asphyxiation. She had cocaine, marijuana, zoloft and xanax in her bloodstream at the time of her death.

What about the psychological autopsy? Well, that is for us to decide. In my opinion, this had absolutely nothing to do with cyberbullying. This was someone stuck in a cycle of trauma. From a young age, she had been taught that her value was her sexuality and that is what others want from her. She exists to be used and molested.

At no point in her life did she ever have sexual autonomy. Trauma had stripped that away from her. Ames' yes is a distorted yes, one forged of the ill intentions of men in her past. It comes out of her lips but it does not have her voice.

In 2017, she tried to break the cycle of trauma. This is an incredibly difficult task. In a very real sense, it requires self-annihilation and the ability to shed thinking patterns of the past. To move past trauma, you must be reborn. This avenue was taken from her publicly and spitefully. She was told that it is in fact not her right to say no. The cause of August Ames' death was a denial of sexual freedom. The pornstar was not sexually liberated.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687696640311119.webp

FRICK YA'LL

Frick ya'll indeed. Frick this world that refuses to give women their sexual autonomy. Frick the wicked who exploit the traumatized and troubled. Frick the hedonists that care only for their own carnal pleasures. Most importantly, frick ya'll, the everymen found the world over, who allow this evil to continue through their consumption of pornography and their silence when women are sexually abused.

Ames' story is not a strange one. You know full well that pornography is contingent on suffering. You cannot have one without the other. It's so easy to just call a woman a slut and be done with it. To take the time and have the empathy to understand people's history and how they arrive at certain points in their lives is simply too much to ask for many people.

To Ames, on behalf of all men, I am deeply sorry.

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EFFORTPOST Types of Vampires: Lilith

Congratulations vampiricels :marseyblops2cel: You made it to another week, and to another essay post from the greatest of all rDrama Houses :marseybetauprising:

Lilith is a being from Hebrew mythology with a rather multilayered history. While it’s a bit of an oversimplification to just call her a vampire, Lilith’s mythology heavily overlaps with vampires in the way that demons and succubi overlap with vampires, and she has long been associated with blood sucking. :marseybloodpuddle:


EARLIEST LEGENDS:

As mentioned in my previous House Vampire post, most of the mythology associated with modern vampires originated in early modern south and eastern Europe. However, the idea of a blood or at least life force draining being of undead or demonic origin has independently emerged across cultures and time periods. Even the ancient Mesopotamians and pre-Jewish Israelites had mythological beings that can be retroactively thought of as vampire esque. :marseyaugustlove:

Mesopotamia is a historic term for a region of the Middle East mostly encompassed by modern day Iraq and Syria. The history of the region is essentially a history of recorded civilization, as the fertile land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers gave rise to some of the earliest known agricultural societies. The ancient Sumerians in particular represent the arguable start of continuous western history, and what I mean here is that actual Sumerian records have survived into the present day. Their language is still known and their mythological influences remain in literary studies. The same is true of their immediate successors; the Akkadians, the Babylonians, the Assyrians, etc. :marseysargonofaccat:

In other words, Sumer represents the start of when firsthand accounts of the past remain preserved and knowable into the present day. While agricultural civilizations may have existed before Sumer, and while there’s evidence for particular cultures going back into the Ice Age, anything before Mesopotamia’s time is only known through archaeology. We can only guess as to what those people thought of themselves. :marseyskeletontrex:

Though it’s disputed by mainstream academics, some believe Lilith’s earliest legends go back to Sumerian culture, which means we Vampires may be as old as society itself :marseysociety2: Samuel Noah Kramer, an academic on Sumer and Assyria, translated the ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as "Lilith" in Tablet XII of the Epic of Gilgamesh dated c. 600 BC. This part of the Epic involves a tree that is overtaken by a serpent and a spirit before Gilgamesh kills the serpent and causes the spirit to flee. The parallel to the Biblical garden of Eden is clear, though not all experts agree on a direct connection. :marseynerd:

At the very least, Sumerian culture produced the Edimmu, reanimated ghosts of the improperly buried who drained the life force of their victims. These beings are obviously reminiscent of vampires, but that may be a post for a later day. Sumerian and Akkadian mythology also has the Lilu as a kind of winged demon, with Lilitu as the feminine term. :marseybat:


BABYLON AND THE ANCIENT HEBREWS

Though the Sumerian cities were eventually conquered and lost their political independence, the abstract culture remained relevant in the Middle East for several thousand years. The educated elite of the successor civilizations studied their mythology and language much in the way that medieval nobles would learn about Latin and Greco-Roman legends. Babylon was one such empire, and though they were only one of the Bronze Age powers to dominate the Fertile Crescent, Babylon became particularly infamous in history thanks to later biblical influence. People who have never even heard the word Mesopotamia still vaguely know the word Babylon, the very name now forever associated with the original Jewish diaspora and negative concepts like wickedness and apostasy. :marseydevil:

Seriously, you could talk to a hundred people on the street and none of them would know anything about, say, Elam, or Assyria, or Mitanni, or what have you. But thanks to Judaism’s ultimate influence on western history, everyone knows about Babylon. :marseyisrael: Their ancient infamy has been forever preserved through biblical folklore, very much like Lilith herself.

Meanwhile, the ancient Israelites (Hebrews) were the group of people who — no points for guessing this — ultimately founded Judaism. :marseysanders: Hebrew culture goes back even further than this though, with the earliest Israelites practicing the same polytheistic religion as the nearby Canaanites and Phoenicians. (Who eventually founded Rome’s best buddy Carthage) Scholarly consensus believes Yahweh was one of these many gods and that the Israelites gradually evolved into a monotheistic society by worshipping him over the others. The changing views on Baal illustrate this development; Baal was simply the northwestern semitic word for lord and was used in pre-Jewish times to refer to many different gods, even Yahweh. As Judaism became codified the word fell out of favor, and the Bible itself associates the word with paganism and false idolatry. Meanwhile and in contrast, the classical era Carthaginians continued to worship a distantly related Baal Hammon as their supreme god, entirely independent of Jewish influence. With the passage of time Hebrew mythology took a negative view on the Canaanite myths that contradicted their emerging religion, and it’s possible a similar hostility emerged towards the foreign influences of Babylon — that is, Hebrew folklore sought to associate Babylonian influence with sin and apostasy as a way of preserving their native culture in the face of imperial assimilation. In this way Babylon may have served as an indirect vector for Sumerian mythology to influence Judaism, but only in the sense that Jewish texts took entities like the lilitu and made them even more demonic and sinister :marseywitch2:

Ancient Israel would have been exposed to Mesopotamian culture through the Babylonian conquest, but there’s no way to prove if Lilith is definitively connected to the Sumerian myths. In any case, Lilith appears unambiguously in several of the Hebrew texts that would go on to inspire the Bible. She appears once in the Hebrew Bible in prophecy regarding the Kingdom of Edom. There is also an either pre or post Jewish reference in the Arslan Tash tablets, though the exact authenticity of these artifacts is of endless debate. The Dead Sea Scrolls also make a definite reference, though it’s notably in plural. There are five references to Lilith in the Babylonian Talmud. The Midrash Rabbah collection contains two references to Lilith, the first a vague suggestion to a woman before Eve — similar to Lilith’s medieval depictions — and the second a direct reference. :parrotisrael:

Assyriologist Eberhard Schrader (1875) and Moritz Abraham Levy (1855) suggest that Lilith was a demon of the night, known also by the Jewish exiles in Babylon. This would certainly be possible through Babylonian cultural influence. This view is challenged by some modern research such as by Judit M. Blair (2009) who considers that the context indicates unclean animals. Still, even this interpretation suggests an association between Lilith and impurity, not unlike the more early modern depictions of vampires and succubi as corrupters. :marseysexy:

It’s further worth noting that the Greek Old Testament translated the references into onocentaurs or satyrs. The Romans translated them into lamias, somewhat similar as child preying monsters, but also with snake tails. Some early English translations also preserved the references to lamias. :marseyonemediumsnekvibing:


MODERN LILITH

Even if she started as a type of demon, Lilith is most remembered as a singular entity from the Bible and so inevitably made the transition from Jewish to Christian European lore. I think this is notable because her influence mostly consisted of unofficial folklore rather than in Church approved canon. I doubt theologists debated her role in things the way they debated concepts like the Holy Trinity, and some translations of the Bible even turned her references into other creatures entirely. Still she persevered as a traditional Hebrew demon the more superstitious simply couldn’t manage to shake. Her further references in the Bible were probably written to invoke her existing infamy — in other words, her name was shorthand for sin and adultery/child killing just as Baal became short hand for false idolatry and paganism. :marseyrapscallion:

Lilith survived in Mesopotamian folklore as late as the 6th Century AD. She features as a “type” of demon in Jewish occult incantation bowls made in the Sassanid controlled Middle East to protect households and their children. The Alphabet of Sirach, written in an Islamic country between the 8th-10th centuries, (exact date unknown) is one of the earliest works to mention Lilith as Adam’s first wife, the prevailing interpretation of her by the Middle Ages. This may represent a conflation of older ideas, as some Jewish texts mention a cryptic “first Eve” and Lilith was already a byword for sin. :abusivewife:

Indeed it was her appearances in fringe Jewish mysticism that established her connection to the biblical Eden, as opposed to mainstream church doctrine. The first medieval source to depict Adam and Lilith in full was the Midrash abkir, the figure reappearing centuries after the Middle Eastern references. Kabbalistic mysticism established a direct relationship between Lilith and God, and the Zohar and Treatise on the Left Emanation also mention connections to Adam, Cain, demons, and other mystic figures like Asmodeus and Samael. Some versions even preserved the plural Liliths, with a lesser one as Adam’s first wife and a greater one having always been a demon. :parrotevil:

Just like the more general vampires, Lilith achieved mainstream prominence in early modern Europe. Her being Adam’s first wife became widely popularized with the 17th century Lexicon Talmudicum of German Hebraist scholar Johannes Buxtorf. Lilith's earliest appearance in the literature of the Romantic period was in Goethe's 1808 work Faust: The First Part of the Tragedy. Paintings of Lilith became popular around the mid 19th century. The Victorian poet Robert Browning re-envisioned Lilith in his poem "Adam, Lilith, and Eve" published in 1883, notably focusing on her emotional attributes rather than her demonic reputation. Scottish author George MacDonald also wrote a fantasy novel entitled Lilith, first published in 1895. Many of the traditional characteristics are present in the author's depiction, long dark hair, pale skin, a hatred and fear of children and babies, and an obsession with gazing at herself in a mirror. MacDonald's Lilith also has vampiric qualities: she bites people and sucks their blood for sustenance. :marseyvampirebite:

Today Lilith remains a popular figure in Wicca and other neo-pagan followings. Sympathetic portrayals generally have her as a human witch rather than a demon or vampire, though there are of course vampire centric stories that often invoke her. Some feminists see her as an icon, a woman who exercised free will rather than conforming to expectations. You’ll even see cringe :marseysnoo: types naming their kids after her.

To me Lilith is a fascinating concept because of how long lived her motif has become. Even if her origins are nebulous and subject to endless interpretation, I personally find it interesting that a legend could survive this long and create a kind of cross-cultural continuity to human history. It’s doubly intriguing that the character has survived largely through myth and folklore, never having been reinforced by actually mandated religious canon from an organized church.

There aren’t many other Bronze Age characters that still elicit an emotional reaction from people, as opposed to just purely clinical academic attention. :marseynerd2:


AS A VAMPIRE:

As you may have gathered, Lilith isn’t just a vampire but there definitely are connections. There are arguably three different ways of looking at the concept, but all invoke vampiric traits. :marseykiwivampire:

As demons, the lilitu were known for prowling in the night and could sometimes cause storms. (A trait shared by a few vampire variants like Strigoi with hail) These demons are said to possess wings, which I think is notable as this was many thousands of years before bats became associated with vampires. :marseybat2:

The Hebrew Lilith was sometimes a kind of demon and sometimes a specific individual, with the demonic Lilith possibly becoming one and the same with the concept of a previous Eve over time. As a demon Lilith was notable for blood sucking and child killing. The superstitious made prayers to keep Lilith away from their children. Lilith was also seen as a kind of succubi and was said to cause male, heh, “nocturnal emissions”. She could take the form of either men or women and seduce their partners. Children born to these arrangements would be cursed by her and eventually killed. The Alphabet of Sirach portrays her as hunting men for semen and blood, to create more demons and sustain her life force respectively. It’s possible Lilith in particular inspired the s*x appeal that modern vampires are often given, as she was portrayed this way by 19th century depictions around the time the concept of more human-like vampires was taking off. :animevampire:

The biblical Lilith is an individual and is more of a demon or witch than a kind of creature, but she is still sometimes associated with blood sucking and the child killing that particular vampire types are known for. The 1950 Knox Bible outright translates her Old Testament references into “vampire”. :marseychristchanreading:


IN POPULAR CULTURE:

In The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis, the White Witch (the main antagonist of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe) is said to be a descendant of Lilith, referred to as Adam's first wife.

The character Leeloo in the movie The Fifth Element, a futuristic fantasy, turns the concept of Lilith on its head by saving humanity instead of devouring it. Leeloo is depicted as fair-skinned and with strawberry blonde hair, young and lithe, similar or identical to the romantic era paintings. Leeloo is represented as the original woman (first wife of Adam) and is born speaking the "Divine Language".

In the anime series Neon Genesis Evangelion — a show that makes many references to Jewish mysticism — Lilith is a seed of life created by an alien race that ultimately created life on Earth instead of Adam, the intended seed. The antagonist Angels are the progeny of Adam, with the “Lilin” actually being the human race of the setting.

In Fall from Heaven, a semi-officially supported mod for the Firaxis game Civilization IV, the character Os-Gabella is heavily inspired by Lilith. She refused to be the wife of Nemed, a character inspired by the biblical Adam, and instead corrupted two of his later children into the first vampires. Os-Gabella comes to lead a civilization of demons, while her children go on to establish a kingdom of vampires with blood sucking as an actual 4X game mechanic.


IN HOUSE VAMPIRE CULTURE:

We’re all quite familiar with the concept of a vampire temptress :marseybooba: https://i.rdrama.net/images/168763739879237.webp

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EFFORTPOST [Effortpost] Yevgeny Prigozhin: from Zero :marseypoor: to Zigger :marseysoldierrussia:

Hi all :marseywave2:, I've been thinking about doing a longpost on Prigozhin while he was still a semi-obscure screeching vatnik to score some of those 'not like other posters' :marseyarthoe: points. Sadly, him becoming a household name literally overnight for trying to coup the Russian government kinda threw a wrench in that plan. So please pretend its still the 23rd :marseywink: while reading this. Anyways, here is Yevgeny Prigozhin- one of the most dramatic individuals of our generation.


Chapter 1: :marseysexy: enthusiast

Our story begins in a commieblock in bootleg Helsinki (then Leningrad, now St. Petersburg) in 1961:marseydarkcomrade:. Prigozhin was born of Russoid mother :marseybabushka: and a jewish father :!marseyjewish:, thus proving that God's chosen people can prosper anywhere:!marseysaluteisrael: even in the frozen hellscape that is the Soviet Union! Sadly, his father died early and as such, young Prigozhin was mostly raised by step-father who had the (((same ethnic background))) as his real dad. Young Gozhin' often dreamed of becoming a cross-country skiier and luckily for him, his step father happened to be an instructor in the sport. He pursued this early dream of pooping on snowboarders by attending and graduating a prestigious athletics boarding school.


Chapter 2: Jail time bussyblasting :!marseytwerkingfast: and professionl wiener handler

As any literature major :marseycrayoneater: will tell you , you can't have your protagonist start from an OK-ish situation, you need to totally run him into the ground before you build him up. Unsurprisingly, this is what happened to our favourite alcoholic!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156450814896.webp

As it turns out, cross-country skiing didn't work out that well and our homeboy turned to a life of crime :marseymugshot:. When he was 18, Prigozhin was given a suspended 2-year sentence for stealing but that wasn't enough to deter our boyo. Just two years later he was caught again and sentenced to 12 years in prison, ending up serving 9. Not much is known about his life there but it seems he listened to the wrong Jordan Peterson audiobook! Here we have an eloquent gentleman telling us how he bunked in jail with Prigozhin, who apparently was a 'rooster' (prison slang for bottom bussyhole) and got a sloppy toppy :marseyhomofascist: from the big Gozhin himself!

Freshly released out of jail just as the Soviet Union was falling apart, it seems the Prigozhins fell on hard times :marseybeggar:.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156454020007.webp

As such he ended up selling hot-dogs with his mum and stepfather in the flea market. That may have been the end of him but turns out Prigozhin's experience in handling wieners :marseysting: saved his Boyeprisussy @all_correct_opinions.


Chapter 3: Business tycoon simulator :marseycapitalistmanlet: fall of the USSR edition

The details are a bit muddy in this area but what we know is that apparently the Russian hot-dog business was booming:pepemoney:. Prigozhin soon became the manager of the largest grocery store chain in St Petersburg which just happened to be founded by one of his old classmates from that boarding school sometime in the 90s. Things started snowballing from there on and Prigozhin decided to expand into the goombling :marseygambling: business getting to own a bunch of casinos. Apparently, thats when he got to meet the chairman of the Russian board for casinos, a balding manlet who would end up playing a kinda big part in Russian politics :marseyputin:.

Aged 34, (1995) Prigozhin decided to give high end restaurants a try. Given that this was the most gourmet meal money could buy you in the Russian 90s its no surprise it was a hit.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156457057192.webp

His most successful one was New Island, a luxury restaurant built on a rusty butt ship Prigozhin probably bought for a carton of cigarettes and a BJ which he ended up blinging out. The afore-mentioned balding manlet :marseywerebackputin: was a big fan of it, going there a lot of times often inviting other kinda important people.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156460754178.webp

A hot-dog seller, a taxi driver and a war criminal :marseybush: walk into a bar....

Not one to limit himself at just being one of the richest men in Russia, in the early 2000s Prigozhin even tried publishing children's books. Here is a picture of him and his family they included in the preface :marseywholesome:.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156461499224.webp

More interesting is that he is even credited with the artwork, heres a couple of illustrations that he made for the book.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156463311448.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156465456479.webp

What a wholesome family man :marseyfamily:, I'm sure he won't end up commiting crimes against humanity sometime down the line :marseyclueless:.

In the meantime, his businesses just kept expanding and earned him a lot of cozy catering contracts with the Kremlin and the Russian government :platyrich:. They were so widespread you couldn't even get soda pop in there without one of Prigozhin's companies not being behind it. This earned him the nickname 'Putins Chef':marseychefkiss:.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156467236145.webp


Chapter 4: Irl glowposting :marseyfedpostglow:

Another one of Prigozhin's ventures was the funding and creation of some online shitposting :marsey4chan: groups, the most notorious being the 'Internet research Agency'. Where (according to the New York times anyways) people would be paid pretty comfy wages just post what your average 4chan use would do FOR FREE :pepejannie:. They fedposted so hard the company got indicted by the US for 'interfering' with the 2016 election and the FBI issued a warrant for Prigozhin's arrest. Not one to be intimidated by glorified bio-luminescent internet jannies, Prigozhin confessed that he did interfere with U.S. elections and that he will fricking do it again :marseyfedpostyes:


Chapter 5: Wagner- Humble Beginnings

Although throughout 2014-2021 Prigozhin denied involvement in Wagner, in 2022 he finally publicly came out as its leader and admitted he founded it all the way back in 2014. Like most shadow backed private military companies (PMC) 'Wagner Group' started out as a drunk band of vatniks lobbing explosives :marseyakbar: at civillian populated areas :marseybruh2: in Donbas back in 2015 as the Russian gov wanted a way to do so while maintaining plausible deniability :marseybigbrain:. Its worth noting that group is run akin to an actual company, as mercenary groups are officially illegal in Russia. Funnily enough, Wagner is officially registered in St Petersburg as a 'management consultancy'.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687615647053954.webp

They got their first big break in 2017 where they got a pretty lucrative contract with the Central African Republic:transracial:. Essentially, they would show their policemen which end of the rifle goes pew-pew at unarmed protesters :marseycop3: and in exchange they would get mineral rights to various gold :marseygolden: and diamond :marseycrystal: mines. They even got involved in Syria where they would support pro-Assad forces until they got absolutely btfod in 2018 by US forces using F15s:marseyjetbombing:, Apaches and Reapers :marseypredator: which ended up with the destruction an entire battalion of russoids :marseybased::marseysaluteusa:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156472104323.webp


Chapter 6: Shitposting in the 3 day Special Military Operation

After publicly stepping up as leader of Wagner in 2022, lets just say that Prigozhin has adopted a very'hands-on' management style and is very involved in the groups activities. He also trolls the shit out of everyone, whether its the Ukrainians :marseyazov: the Russian MoD :marseygigaretard: or vatniks :marseyrussianmutt:, and it is absolutely glorious. I won't cover the 'le bad' g*mer moments (see: warcrimes :marseymacarthur:) he had (like that sledgehammer video you can see on our sister website:marseybestfriends:) as this is already turning into a reddit-tier longpost :marseywords: but instead focus on Prigozhin himself and the more dramatic stuff he's been up to in Ukraine.

* The :marseysoypoint: incident

For context, Wagner doesnt make its own shit. Instead they get it from the Russian MoD. As such, arguably the most famous Prigozhin video is him pointing a pile of dead :marseysoldierrussia:s where he is blaming the russian military leaders for their deaths as apparently they did not hand them out enough shells. You probably know the og video so instead I'll post the version they showed on Japanese :marseykamikaze: primetime news.

Also, he got soyjaked as frick lmao

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876156474987748.webp

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(thx for the template @hawgrancher)

* Champaigne for Ukrainian soldiers:marseyzelensky:

A while back, Ukrainian soldiers repeatedly bragged that after they drove Wagner out of Bakhmut they would celebrate their victory with champagne. Well, once Wagner captured the city, Prigozhin sent a truck full of sparkling wine :marseycheers: to Ukrainian soldiers taken from a factory near Bakhmut :marseytroll:.

Also, on the box he wrote "To Ukrainian women, happy March 8th" :taylaugh:

* The stalwart defenders of Bakhmut

Eventually, he decided to pull out of Bakhmut (oh gee, I wonder why :marseytroublemaker:) and transfer the ownership of the city to the Russian Armed Forces. However, he left them with two elite supersoliders to ensure the city remains in safe hands.

* Larping as a Lidl-tier Tom Cruise

He also challenged Zelensky to an Ace Combat style duel:marseyjetfighter::!marseyjetfighter: over the ownership of Bakhmut that one time lol

Lastly, the thing that surprises me the most is that despite all things (remember the hammer video :marseydeadinside2:?) he actually seems to care about his own soliders and Ukrainian ones as well as civilians to some degree. For instance, there are videos of him ensuring the bodies of Ukrainian volunteers are returned with the correct flag on their coffins, meeting with the families of dead Wagner soldiers,him coordinating prisoner exchanges and even holding application interviews with potential wagner recruits. Could be propaganda but its still more than what the bunker manlet :marseyitsoverputin: is doing.


Chapter 7: Russian Civil War Special Withdrawal Operation

Also, apparently he's also fighting a full scale war with the Russian military over ownership of the country which is pretty cool.

Prigozhinbros...its over :marseyitsover:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16876292860687969.webp


!effortposters I hope you enjoyed this longpost and if you read so far down it means a lot to me, truly! @Cassidy :marseypin::marseybegging:

Who should I do another effortpost on next (in 6 to 8 business months)?

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EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica: Kaamrev Autism Longposts Archive :marseyflagsouthafrica:

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SOUTHERN AFRICA LONGPOSTS:

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Afrikaans lady says Kaffir 50 times and gets sent to prison.

https://rdrama.net/post/190355/marseyflagsouthafrica-afrikaans-lady-says-kword-50


Story of Zimbabwe's Hyperinflation

https://rdrama.net/post/194813/the-story-of-zimbabwe-hyperinflation-marseyaaafallingmarseyaaafallingmarseyaaafalling


Cape Town 2023 Taxi Striking Drama

https://rdrama.net/post/195711/marseyflagsouthafrica-cape-town-taxi-strike-rioting


Famous 2010 BBC reporter interview with Julius Malema which made him famous.

https://rdrama.net/post/195984/that-time-when-a-bbc-bigbongpeepee


Story of the ANC Youth League transformation into the EFF.

https://rdrama.net/post/197035/marseyflagsouthafrica-the-great-2013-schism-of


Random Rhodesia Bush War Scandals

https://rdrama.net/post/197556/random-rhodesia-bush-war-scandals


Story where I recount how China has exploited Mozambique

https://rdrama.net/post/191698/chinas-exploitation-of-mozambique


Story of the worst rendition of the South African National Anthem of all time.

https://rdrama.net/post/189486


Story in which I recount the corruption of the Free State Province's various municipalities, and how they have been indebted to ESKOM, the nationalized electricity provider for South Africa. The post focusses on how their bankruptcy has led to the modern problems of ESKOM not having the finances to repair or maintain Power Stations in the Free State, and how this has aggrevated the causes of Loadshedding.

https://rdrama.net/post/183743/marseyflagsouthafrica-free-state-province-municipalities-stop


Stories where I recount the various controversial and banned films throughout Southern Africa's histories. I made a series of 3 posts which recount controversial and dramatic films, from the earliest filmmaking devices in SA, to modern controversial movies.

https://rdrama.net/post/186601

https://rdrama.net/post/185786/marseyflagsouthafrica-a-short-history-of-banned

https://rdrama.net/post/185294/marseyflagsouthafrica-a-short-history-of-marseyban


Story regarding the 2009 South African Election, when seemingly the strongest competitor to the dominating ANC party in 12 years, arose from a deep ideological schism in the ANC party, and several high ranking ANC members would mutiny to form the COPE (Congress of the People) party. Story recounts the leadup and hype in 2008, towards the disappointing dismal performance of COPE in 2009.

https://rdrama.net/post/181062/marseyflagsouthafrica-2008-south-africans-cope-when


Story where I recount the cause and events of the RhodesMustFall student activist movement which crippled the University of Cape Town for over a year, and how it lead to the removal of the prominent statue of Cecil John Rhodes.

https://rdrama.net/post/180474/marseyflagsouthafrica-rhodes-must-fall-marseyflagsouthafrica-the


Story regarding the famous Cango Caves, and how an obese lady got stuck doing an adventure tour through its more difficult tour courses through the original route of the first cave explorers, and how she trapped 22 other tourists on the other side of the only exit.

https://rdrama.net/h/fatpeoplehate/post/178211/marseyflagsouthafricasaffer-variant-rfatpeoplehate-the-cango-grug


Story where I recount the situation of LGBT treatment in South Africa, and how usually react when they are criticized about Africa-Specific homophobia and bigotry.

https://rdrama.net/post/177282/some-turbo-nuclear-cope-marseycopeseethedilate-in


Drama in 2016 when South African volunteer firefighters strike and Toitoi during a diplomatic mission towards Canada when Canada had just suffered one of their worst recorded forest fires.

https://rdrama.net/post/176974/marseyflagsouthafrica-saffer-drama-back-in-2016


Collection of drama in South Africa when Afrikaners refer to National Heritage Day, as National Braai Day.

https://rdrama.net/post/174767/marseyflagsouthafrica-mini-drama-in-rsouthafrica-8


Story where I recount the drama when the famous offroad French race across the Sahara, from Paris to Dakar, Senegal, was cancelled amid French tourists being killed amid violent war arising in the region.

https://rdrama.net/post/172357/drama-when-the-yearly-dakar-4x4


Where I recount the various spats between Israeli and Palestinian students at the University of Cape Town.

https://rdrama.net/post/169955/marseyflagsouthafricauniversity-of-cape-town-marseyflagsouthafrica-yearly


Story where I recount the various Dramas resulting from the poaching and near extinction of South Africa's Rhinos.

https://rdrama.net/post/169713/marseyflagsouthafrica-south-african-rhino-breeding-drama


Story about Mozambique, where I recount the collapse of the Mozambique economy when Credit Suisse and other banks were caught in a scandal involving the giving of excessive debt towards corrupt Mozambique officials in secret, and the global community discovered that the Mozambique had accumulated more debt than it could feasibly repay.

https://rdrama.net/post/168955/that-time-when-one-of-the


Story about Botswana's Elephant overpopulation, and the drama involving their population control as well as the questions about culling as population control via foreign Trophy Hunters.

https://rdrama.net/post/167478/botswanas-elephant-overpopulation-and-hunting-drama


Story in which I recount the catastrophic Mozambique Civil War against the Portuguese, and then between themselves as Capitalist and Communist factions splintered the country during the Cold War era, and led to the burning down of the Mozambique Surveyor General's Office - which resulted in chaos for the land parcel management thereafter.

https://rdrama.net/post/167201/that-time-when-mozambique-commies-burned


Story where I recount a collection of dramas involving provocative advertisements by the Chicken restaurant foodchain Nandos, which is famed for putting out controversial ads.

https://rdrama.net/post/165697/history-of-dramatic-nandos-marseyblackcockmarseyfriedchicken-controversial


Story about the complex drama regarding Wild Game farmers and Lodge Masters unwittingly create a bubble in the Wild Game market, by focusing on Colour Variants breeding, which Rowland Wards would refuse to acknowledge.

https://rdrama.net/post/165435/marseyflagsouthafrica-south-african-wild-game-colour


Story about how a South African High Court decision regarding the accountability of Wildebeest owners have towards cattle infected by the deadly Snotsickness, led to the mass culling of Wildebeests all over RSA.

https://rdrama.net/post/163958/marseyflagsouthafrica-south-african-wild-game-high


Story about the exposure of the existence of the Guptas - corrupt Indian brother caused destructive state hijacking of many RSA institutions - when they brazenly organized a wedding in Sun City, and utilized military airports to land secret Indian guests.

https://rdrama.net/post/162984/marseyflagsouthafrica-south-african-theme-park-racism


Racist South African Shampoo advertisement drama.

https://rdrama.net/post/162730/marseyflagsouthafrica-south-african-racist-shampoo-marseypaperbagmarseywindmill


Story where I recount the drama of Cellphone companies struggling to keep their data and mobile signal towers operating throughout the COVID pandemic, after cartels repeatedly steal the backup batteries for these towers so frequently that many communities are effectively left in signal dead zones.

https://rdrama.net/post/160940/marseyflagsouthafrica-south-african-cellphone-tower-marseygossip


Drama about how PRASA - the government organization for SA's railways - ordered train coached which could not fit on most of SA's track.

https://rdrama.net/post/159741/south-african-train-drama-marseytrainmarseytrainmarseytrainmarseytrain


Olympics drama when Intersex athlete, Caster Semenya, destroys all competition in the female 800m items, about a decade before burger trains started to crush female athletes in sports.

https://rdrama.net/post/158750/chadwomanblack-caster-semenya-south-african-intersex


Drama about the African Renaissance Monument built in Senegal.

https://rdrama.net/post/158714/marseyflagafricamarseyblackpanther-african-renaissance-monument-drama-marseyscreammarseypopcorn


Southern Africa bribing storytime.

https://rdrama.net/post/157661/marseyflagsouthafricasouthern-africa-bribing-storytime-marseybeanpleased


History of the famous Afrikaans singer, Steve Hofmeyr's, dramatic antics throughout his career.

https://rdrama.net/post/156827/saffer-rslur-post-father-of-south


Flagsexuals screw over protest against Farm Murders by flying the Union of South Africa flag during rally organized by SA whites.

https://rdrama.net/post/155453/giga-rslur-effortpost-marseynecklacesoooth-efrican-farmers


Republic of South Africa Navy is borderline derelict.

https://rdrama.net/post/153065/only-one-of-sa-navys-four


The 1st longpost after other dramatards asked me to make a more cohesive explanation regarding the Loadshedding situation in South Africa.

https://rdrama.net/post/149505/marseycrackahwitoid-ceo-who-tried-to-pull


The post that started it all.

https://rdrama.net/post/146251/we-are-so-fd-now-southafrica

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NON-AFRICAN LONGPOSTS:

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Drama in 2004 in Mexico when British cave diving specialists butt heads when British military personnel got stuck in Alpazat cave after a flash flood.

https://rdrama.net/post/176694/marseymexican-meccicans-go-full-3rd-world


https://rdrama.net/h/slavshit/post/162509/effertpost-drama-from-a-year-ago


Reddit Ultrasoy which invested /r/truegayming

https://rdrama.net/post/163696/the-redditultra-soy-which-posted-the

https://rdrama.net/post/163530/greedfall-a-game-about-colonialism-by


Obscure Rightoid Youtuber Christcuck

https://rdrama.net/post/163455/obscure-rightoid-schizo-christian-crusader-drama


https://rdrama.net/post/152286/marseytwerkingvery-importante-marseytwerking-chuds-and-rightwingcuck


1st Worlders Cucks 3rd World gayemers

https://rdrama.net/post/148174/the-entire-turkroach-marseyturkroach-gaymer-demographic


Wokefication of Age of Empires 3

https://rdrama.net/post/195059/drama-2-years-ago-about-the


Terfenstein

https://rdrama.net/post/191974/terfenstein-3d-on-steam-holy-fricking


Exceptional post by @SmallNips

https://rdrama.net/post/135751/orania-the-town-that-has-been

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EFFORTPOST :marseyflagsouthafrica: 2008: South Africans Cope, when they Hope, that COPE will defeat the ANC :marseycope::marseycope::marseycope:

Greetings Dramatards :marseydance:

So by 2008, white South Africans have started to realize that the ANC was there to stay, and despite the alarming incompetence, corruption and instant decay of every institution which they touched in the short span of merely a decade, the loyalty of ANC-wincucks, and the impoverished black masses voting them in repeatedly, seemed to be unwavering. There was virtually no scandal too egregious, no nepotism too over the line. No theft too grand.

The very moment the aged Mandela stepped down after just one term, it was like a house of falling cards. While the Mandela Administration was mostly competent, and Mandela himself had bucketloads of charisma - the fact remains that Nepotism started on day one, 1995. Many white liberals have nostalgia-goggles towards the Mandela Administration as being some uncorruptible benevolent rulers whom did absolutely nothing wrong, and that it was the intensely corrupt Thabo Mbeki who followed up Mandela in 1999 which led the doorway for statewide corruption in RSA.

The reality is that while Mandela himself was a stunning leader, he enabled large scale nationwide Nepotism for woefully unqualified individuals to obtain prominent and politically critical high positions of power, simply based on ANC party loyalties, and their rankings within the ANC rebellion's leadership. He had to placate many different ethnicities (like the competing Xhosas and Zulus who still held century long grudges), whom all wanted to have their political leaders at the helm of various government institutions. It is a reality that while Mandela steered a ship well, he also normalized nepotism on an unprecedented scale.

As we've seen with so many South American revolutions and counter-revolutions, it appears that charismatic revolutionaries don't always make for competent bureaucrats.


We've also seen the latest Turkey election in which many supporters continued to keep Erdogan in power, regardless of his corruption and poor state leadership. I was personally coping that his opponent Kemal would actually succeed to dethrone him, yet close is never enough. Hilariously it seems that many of the expats and immigrants from Western Europe were the ones responsible for tipping the scales into Erdogan's favour lmoa :marseytwerking:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687442644158953.webp

https://www.euronews.com/2023/05/15/turkish-election-how-did-turks-in-europe-cast-their-ballots-for-erdogan-or-kilicdaroglu


Still, in spite of the wingcuckery and :marsheepnpc::marsheepnpc::marsheepnpc: voters for ANC, in 2008 a lot of South Africans still had large hope for the country - both whites and liberal blacks who were also unhappy with the corruption displayed by the ANC post-Mandela. The rand was still going strong-ish and petrol was cheap.

In 2008, former members of the African National Congress (ANC), would meet in Bloemfontein and founded "The Congress of the People" (COPE). They were sick of the internal division and squabbles between ANC high membership and wanted to establish a competing party.

There was a lot of unironic hopefulness in this venture, as very high ranking ANC members like Mosiuoa Lekota, Mbhazima Shilowa and Mluleki George, were breaking line with the mainstream ANC leadership. These weren't just nobodies, there actually was a chance to form a core of opposition against the ANC, as a viable alternative party! Liberal journos were hyping up this shit! :soyjackwow::soyjackwow::soyjackwow:


It's important for foreigners to understand the RSA voting makeup for the past, to get an idea as to what Saffer r-slurs believed the COPE party could help change. The ANC basically dominated 1990 - 2010 undisturbed with 60-70% of the national total votes. So they were completely untouchable. It's also this dominance which gave them the arrogance to rule as corrupt as they pleased, because they knew they had zero competition, and no capacity for the opposition parties to ever realistically overtake in either National or Provincial governments. You guys know the saying: if you don't have to compete, you don't have to care.

1999: https://results.elections.org.za/dashboards/npe/app/dashboard.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426438936212.webp

2004: https://results.elections.org.za/dashboards/npe/app/dashboard.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426436422153.webp

As you can see ANC is perpetually close to 65+ percent of all RSA votes.

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I show these to demonstrate how untouchable the ANC seemed to be. And how frustrated white liberals were with the passive compliance black peeps had to just give over districts to corrupt local governments no matter how crushingly bad they were run. But these liberals and other whitoids didn't understand the mindset that many of these Post-Apartheid people had been through. Even though mandela had left, the ANC would always be his party - the party of men like him and Steve Biko and other black rights activists jailed by the NP regime, yet still defiantly stood up for the rights of SA blacks everywhere!

They had an undying loyalty to the ANC as a symbol of their freedom, and the democratization of the country, not the leaders in the party themselves. White liberals could not bridge the gape between black peeps, and since they had not always obtained good services under the Apartheid regime anyway, the collapse of infrastructure was inconsiquential to blacks. Further more there was a spitefulness from much of the black voters towards whites, both for Apartheid and the wealth-inequality between the races. For many RSA blacks, whenever the whites and journ*lists screamed and squealed in the news about the destruction of infrastructure like potholes in roads, they would be happy about it. Their black leaders were turning the screw on these slimy whites whom had stolen so much land from them - this was justice for apartheid.

It was only fair that whites had their turn for suffering and their undeserved wealth and closed off suburbs undermined through structural degradation right? Well this mentality would be the ultimate self-destruction. It was the best example of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Or eating shit to have others smell your rancid breath,

Because most of these long term corruption-related infrastructural corrosion would tragically affect blacks disproportionally badly. Water system, pumps, water pipes and sewage recycling refineries would for example, be many of the services just absolutely collapsing under the rule of people who literally didn't even have a highschool education. When retired Chemical engineers in the Free State province offered their services to the new black managers, to teach them how to proportion the chloor and other chemicals when treating the human biomatter (shit), so that clean water may be recycled in in the Free State where there are very arid semi-desert regions. Instead, the arrogance and bitterness of these blacks in new positions of power genuinely sincerely refused help, and though that they would be diminished if they accepted the help of white men whom had ruled over them scarcely 15 years prior. They knew better and wanted to contrarianly show whites who were in charge.

I am not making this up, my uncle has been a chemical engineer for 40 years, and his works are lost on upper management whenever he had to inspect the perpetually failing Sewage and water pipes infrastructures within the Free State. It is neglect on such a vast scale, that 1st worlders I feel have a hard time understanding how corruption and incompetence can so completely bring a state to its knees.

https://www.groundup.org.za/article/winburgs-drinking-water-polluted-by-sewage-works/

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2023-04-11-earthcrimes-free-state-municipalities-foul-failure-on-wastewater-treatment/

https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/free-states-foul-failure-the-critical-state-of-sa-wastewater-plants-20230412

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687442641811748.webp

In the Black townships, electricity, water pipes and roads degraded just as fast as that of their white peers, and thus the continual wingcuckery, blind loyalty, or just spite voting against whites affected them just as severe when national infrasctucture started to break down from 10 years of neglect.


Still after 12 years of ANC bullshit, even other ANC members were in upheaval and rebellion, and thus COPE became a very hyped symbol of hope and change. The DP (Democratic Party) in 1999 is the same group as the DA (Democratic Alliance), they just changed their name when they absorbed other COPE members. in 1999 alliances had not yet been solidified in the 2nd democratic election of South Africa, and a bunch of mismash junk parties occupied the opposition against the ANC, all of them way too ideologically different to ever be able to form a functioning alliance.

By 2004 the DA had established themselves as the most potent opposition against the ANC in terms of organization, yet they were still way too proportionally voted by whites. By 2004 the DA also started to become very coloured and Indian dominated because even though the new government mandated affirmative action - so that previiously impoverished and discriminated against peoples, would have the ability climb up the social and economic latter against previously white dominated occupations.

Initially coloureds and indians were very optimistic with BEE (Black Economic Empowerment) the government mandated affirmative action, but they soon realized that BEE just that, specifically BLACK economic empowerment:

https://businesstech.co.za/news/business/693457/businesses-readying-for-a-big-fight-over-new-bee-laws-in-south-africa/

https://briefly.co.za/28111-what-bee-bbbee-levels-explained.html

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426421077769.webp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment

Big words, many corporatization of terms. The short is you can be shut down if you don't hire black peeps instead of indians/whites as employees. This is reality.

The rankings usually go:

Black female

Black male

Indian female

Indian Male

Coloured female

Coloured males

White female

white male.

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The idea is you cannot hire a race lower on the scorecard, if someone higher than the scorecard applies for the same job, to force businesses to help alleviate black from dire poverty Post-Apartheid. It is important to note there was good sincere intentions in this policy, there was realistic fear that white businesses would refuse to ever hire blacks, resulting in perpetual economic class divide. But like all good intentions, the road to heck is paved towards them.

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Indians and coloureds were enraged by this. They had believed that the BEE policy would only be temporary to get blacks up on their feet, and that after the 1st Mandela term, it would equalize. Yet the opposite happened. BEE became permanent, and much more strict, and much less favorable towards coloureds.

The coloureds in Cape Town felt extremely alienated towards there black countrymen, and even today coloureds can make Afrikaner racists seem like toddlers in comparison with their extreme contempt towards black peeps. They very culturally different, even though blacks and coloureds shared in their misery beneath Apartheid.

There became a common sentiment - namely they were too brown for NP Afrikaners, yet today they are too white for the ANC. By the end of 2010, Coloureds would become the prime occupants of the Democratic Alliance political party.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkatha_Freedom_Party

To demonstrate that I'm not talking out of my butt whenever I call Zulus the most conservative and rightwing ethnic group in RSA, here was one of their most prominent parties in the 2004 election: the IFP ( Inkatha Freedom Party).

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426422897887.webp

They pretty much didn't like the government interfering with their cultural and communal land, they wanted much more autonomy, and were pretty nationalist for a Zulu dominated cultural KwaZulu-Natal. They weren't Serbian levels or nationalist or mouthfoaming, but they made it clear they wanted nothing to do with the left wing and socialists policies on their home turf. They would find minor success from 2000-2010, but as you guys can see they never amounted to more than 10% of the national vote. They would however stay a dominant contender for the KwaZulu-Natal provincial leadership.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426425916147.webp


The rest of the parties were trash and useless, and would not survive concurrent election cycles. Thus it was with great hope that the DA would be able to form a worthy alliance with COPE, to obtain the critical black votes which made a dominant share under the national election.


Also by the way, on an irrelevant tangent: notice this party lmoa. If I'm stretching definitions like a slinky then I would define the VF (Vryheids Front) [translated: Freedom Front} as a right wing party, similar as to the Yank republican parties (but there are decisive differences, like RSA people don't think abortion is as bad as yanks is - there are debates but its mostly a non issue and would be supported by RSA whites and VF members if they were magically teleported into burgerland; they'd be mostly pro-abortion or lukewarm at worst)

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426426745842.webp

This party is basically the feeble remainder of all the White afrikaans boomers who vote for it, it still exists today lmoa.

Most whites, even hard right wingers and conservatives vote for the DA (Democratic Alliance). They are still very liberal, even though they are not as left wing as the ANC, I would still describe them as the closest we have to Yank democrats, but they differ from burger democrats decisively also, by for example, strongly supporting the nationalization of all RSA mines and mineral deposits.

Imagine a bunch of turbo racist afrikaner boomers voting for Left wing Liberal DA, simply because they were least worst option in the whitoid eyes. Talk about being politically turbo cucked lmoa :marseybikecuck:


Anyways I hope I succeeded in establishing the 2008/2009 political stage for foreigners to understand, and why the establishment of COPE, and the mutiny of high grade ANC officials into the COPE party, gave white liberals and journocucks a lot of hope that the ANC stalemate and deadlock could be broken.

Even if the COPE and possible future COPE-DA alliance would still never reach an unlikely 50% startegic vote, their larger presence in parliament would allow them to block much of the ANCs bullshit, and force them to enact laws counter to their corruption.


THE MUTINY!

The reality of the schism between ANC party members were actually inglorious. The main COPE mutineers didn't in reality object to the destructive corruption of the ANC, instead it was an internal power struggle for the two mainstream ANC factions aligned with current president ThaboMbeki and the soon to be future president Jacob Zuma.

In 2007, the ANC would hold their 52nd anneversasy national conference at Polokwane Limpopo. The conference resulted in the election of Jacob Zuma and his supporters, ahead of Thabo Mbeki and his supporters, to the ANC's governing body, the National Executive Committee. Zuma was elected ANC president ahead of Mbeki.

Mbeki and his faction wanted to pursue more neoliberal policies and imitate China whim had obtained great coming success in that period by relaxing their absolute state control on all their economy so that their businesses would trade profitably oversees. Jacob Zuma however were far left populists, and wanted to conduct other social policies. Zuma also wanted to give more power to public unions and have the ANC work with the RSA Communist Party. The two inner factions erupted after this vote, where Zuma became the victor.

Additionally there was high levels of ethnic tension between Zuma and Mbeki ,because they each represented an almost avatar of their respective peoples. Zuma was a Zulu, and Mbeki was a Xhosa.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7695492.stm

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426427215137.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426428964496.webp

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The formal launch of a party of defectors from the governing African National Congress (ANC) marks a decisive moment in the history of post-apartheid South Africa.

The Congress of the People (Cope) - led by Mosiuoa Lekota, a former defence minister, and Mbhazima Shilowa, an ex-premier of the region around Johannesburg - poses the first serious challenge to the ANC since it came to power 14 years ago.

In the 18 years since Nelson Mandela was released from jail, the ANC has gone from being one of the most successful liberation movements, with a leader revered around the world, to a deeply divided organisation, led by Jacob Zuma, who has faced charges of corruption and racketeering.

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Even a hundred years later the Xhosas have not forgiven the Zulus for displacing them from much of their homeland and basically genociding half of them out of existence. Similar to Yugoslavia having kept the lid of the kettle intact, so too did the oppression of the white Apartheid regime keep the two groups mostly out of each other's hair and spaces, because if ethic tensions or race riots ever evolved during the Aprtheid years, then the NP police would crack down brutally and suppress any rioting or fighting. This wasn't because the afrikaner police and military were being angels or the good guys or anything; they just suppressed any civil discontent that threatoned to destabilize the nation.

In the same way that drama can evolve out of hearsay, so too did the notion amongst Xhosas become loud that their Zulus peers were once again up to no good and wanted to dominate them politically, in the same way that the Serbs had wanted to dominate the rest of the groups into a greater Serbia, before Yugoslavia collapsed into racial civil war.

Now I'm not suggesting the ethnic tensions were anything remotely as bad as the Balkans, there were no murders or fighting like that. But that groomercord had swept between Xhosas and Zulus, with the leadup to Zuma's election as President of the ANC during the 52nd ANC conference.

Xhosas felt content when Mandela and Mbeki ruled the country, now with Zuma, it's like they exchanged the Apartheid whites for a fricking Zulu to rule over them!! :marseypearlclutch::marseypearlclutch::marseypearlclutch: The ethnic tensions could be cut with a knife, and a lot of :slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight::slapfight: followed.


Meanwhile the idiot whitoids and journocucks didn't grasp the full reason for this mutiny, and creation of COPE, was because of internal division, instead of protestations against a new era of hope and butterflies

https://web.archive.org/web/20181122092133/http://www.africafiles.org/article.asp?ID=19962

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7849134.stm

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426430456376.webp

==========(from article)

The formation of Cope is being widely seen as the most significant development in South African politics since the end of apartheid, our correspondent said. South Africa's election is expected to take place in April or May. The ANC has ruled the country since the end of apartheid in 1994. While Cope is not expected to win, it could drastically cut the ANC's majority enough to prevent it automatically forming a government, our correspondent said.

Cope's manifesto also included plans for a stabilisation fund to help protect companies affected by the global financial crisis.

The party was formed after last year's ANC conference in Polokwane, when then President Thabo Mbeki lost his fight with Jacob Zuma to remain party president.

Mr Zuma's supporters went on to force Mbeki loyalists out of key positions of power, and Mr Mbeki was forced to step down as president in September.

Cope's registration has been delayed because the name it had initially chosen, the South African National Congress, was challenged by the ANC, while the second choice name - the South African Democratic Congress - had already been taken by another party.

=======(end of article)


COPE HOPE:

There was a general sense of optimism by r-slurs who followed politcal news, and COPE soon became a household name. Were they actually going to offer a successful challenge against the ANC?!

https://mg.co.za/article/2008-12-11-cope-launches-battle-to-gain-votes/

https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2009-03-23-cope-gives-south-africa-hope/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426432249756.webp

You can read the article - it demonstrates how suave and charismatic the COPE leaders were towards the media compared to the brokenshit engrish with which african leaders usually speak next to a microphone.

Q: Jacob Zuma sometimes threatens to "out" people who he hints were more involved in alleged arms deal-related corruption than he, but so far he has not actually exposed them. He has been criticised for this. You have accused the ANC of keeping silent while you wrongly went to jail. Is there any reason why you cannot out them now?

A: There will come a time when I mention the names of people who did profit from the money that came in 1988 when the UDF was banned, the money I went to jail for. The people who received that money, high up in the ANC know that. Zuma is threatening that if you take him to court, he will expose them. I am not doing that. I have been to prison. I cannot threaten anyone and I only raise it because it is a matter of honour and integrity. I am not using this as a stick to beat anyone to try to escape from appearing in court like Zuma.

Q: Analysts suggest that Cope is losing popularity because of the mixed messages you give on affirmative action and coalitions?

A: In the beginning maybe when Cope was trying to formulate policy - but now we are clear about affirmative action and coalitions and people are beginning to understand it more and more. On the issue of coalitions Dr Dandala came out clearly. My experience is that Cope is increasing in popularity on the ground - our popularity far outstrips our capacity to meet those expectations.


ELECTION TIME!

And COPE basically comes out in a wet fart. A paltry 7% :marseybeanpensive::marseybeanpensive::marseybeanpensive:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16874426433591459.webp

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-08-31-no-hope-cope-proves-how-tough-life-is-for-small-time-political-parties-in-south-africa/

Unfortunately for everyone the hype train derailed pretty fricking abysmally. COPE proved that small fringe parties, even with charismatic leaders didn't stand a chance, and that people generally vote for the save option, rather than a radical party with less likely chance to get elected.


And uhh that's it. The hype died, and the current stalemate between ANC, EFF and DA is what RSA would look like for the next 15 years. Political nilists would basically give up any hope to invigorate the black population of RSA to hold their leaders accountable for corruption.

2009 not just ended with Jacob Zuma being elected, the corrupt to be president in the History of SA, but it also showed how RSA would remain for the next decade.

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EFFORTPOST :marseysailor: Das Tuub | Titanic R-sluration

I just found out about this submarine like an hour ago. I feel really bad for the people trapped inside, especially the kid, but they kinda deserve it for even getting on this thing. Everyone's laughing at the CEO for his dumbass DEI policies, but this is just surface level stuff (lol). No one's actually explained the depths of how r-slurred this guy and his company are, so I thought I'd take some time out of my actual engineering job while I'm sitting in a boring butt zoom meeting to properly call this guy a fricking r-slur, so you can all find this just as funny as I do. I thought you all might appreciate it a little more than just some sporadic tweets about the DEI shit he did. This is going to be like a Challenger-style breakdown and what exactly went wrong so you can appreciate this frick-up.

There's gonna be a lot of naval puns in this so bear with me here. A lot of this is coming from my friend, also an engineer, who's done more research into this than I have.


In the Boatginning

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873693238826516.webp

Dramatards, I'd like to introduce you to Stockton Rush. Owner of the the most startup founder-ish name in history, this guy has been making janky submarines his entire life. He got his start in the aerospace industry, as a test engineer on the F-15 with McDonnell-Douglass. Anyone familiar with the industry will note that experience with McDonnell-Douglass is not necessarily a good thing on your resume.

https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/maker-of-the-lost-titanic-sub-once-told-a-reporter-that-at-some-point-safety-is-just-pure-waste/amp_articleshow/101143398.cms

He's made a career out of building submarines that are cheaper and more accessible to the general population, and his company, OceanGate, has had a few successful designs. What's notable about his history, however, is that he's made them cheaper largely by bypassing safety standards. His first submarine that they operated was called Antipodes, was a refit sub built by a different company. Originally intended for research purposes, they used it instead for tourist dives.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Cyclops_1_Submersible.jpg/330px-Cyclops_1_Submersible.jpg

The first actual submarine they built was the Cyclops 1, a carbon-fiber (we'll come back to this part) submarine controlled using a PlayStation controller, with an operational depth of 500m. The submarine is deployed/recovered from some weird floating drydock concept, which crucially allows them to not use human rated cranes to recover the submarine.

After seeing some moderate success, he's gone and built the submarine in question, the Titan, which is built from a composite carbon-fiber and titanium. They bought the hull from a company called Spencer Composites, who intended it to be SINGLE USE. The submarine was built to a factor-of-safety (multiple of how much of the expected load you can withstand before it breaks) of 2.25 (which is frick-all, especially for a submarine - should be at least 6, probably more like 10). . A lot of journ*lists who went on board the thing noted that most of the parts on the interior were sourced from local hardware stores, as were the ballast tanks. They were not, as you could imagine, comfortable about being on board once they realized this.


DEI-ing At Sea

https://x.com/CatchUpFeed/status/1671372796876984320?s=20

This guy's team is a bunch of young, impressionable diversity hires. He's explicitly avoided anyone with experience because they are old and white and men. They're not very inspirational, and so they don't have a place on Rush's team.

Anyone who has worked on an engineering project before knows that any engineer with less than 2 years of practical experience is a massive drain on the project and need to be babysat constantly, ESPECIALLY if they might kill someone. They're usually worth investing in because they'll give you a great return in the long run, but boy are those first couple of years hard.

I didn’t hire experienced people because I’m a racist

oh no my boat sank, how could this have possibly happened

:#marseypikachu2:

This is going to go a long way to explain why what happened did happen, so buckle up.


Frick-up #1: Carboat-Fiber

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Kohlenstofffasermatte.jpg/330px-Kohlenstofffasermatte.jpg

Let's talk materials for a second. Carbon-fiber is what's called a composite material, because it's made from a couple of different types of material. You have the carbon fibers themselves, which are really resistant to being stretched in-plane (like pulling apart a sheet of paper), but have very little strength out of plane (like poking a hole in paper) or off-axis (they're woven into almost a cloth, if you pull at a 60 degree angle to that weave, they lose 80% of their strength).

Carbon fibers are usually set in place with solidified plastics, like epoxy. It solves a lot of problems as far as directional strength goes, but you still need to be careful with it. In a specific configuration, it has similar material properties to a common aerospace aluminium alloy (T-6061), while being a fraction of the weight. Great for airplanes and race cars, where mass is a factor.

Steel is the best material, and the only reason you use anything else is either because you don't want it to rust, or because you can't use steel. It's cheap, strong, and (crucially) it can be stressed over and over again without building up stress fractures. If you keep it under a certain limit, it will never break. NO OTHER MATERIAL DOES THIS.

This makes ideal for something that you're going to put under pressure, and then remove it from that pressure, over and over and over again, in a scenario where weight isn't a factor. Like, say, a submarine.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873693244748619.webp

Stockton Rush, however, is way too cool for steel :marseysmug3:. He has instead decided to build his submarine out of the super cool airplane material, without understanding why its there in the first place. Composite materials are generally vulnerable to snapping if they're loaded repeatedly, which is why the company that built this refused to endorse it after finding out it was going to be used like it was.

It's never been used on submarines before, and with really good reason. It's not just not an optimal choice, it's literally the worst one possible. From the Business Insider article:

The Titan sub was never checked to see if it was up to standard because of its "innovation," OceanGate said in 2019. The sub features a carbon fiber hull that had never been used on submersibles before, according to the "Unsung Science" podcast.

:#marseypain:

Rush managed to bypass safety standards yet again by using completely different materials and then claiming that the standards aren't relevant. They make you sign a massive waiver when you sign up. No one has actually checked if this thing is safe. There's no standard it's being held to, there's no regulation, no third-party review. No matter how good you are, you can always frick up. Their cavalier attitude towards safety has now probably killed the CEO and four other people.

From their blog:

Maintaining high-level operational safety requires constant, committed effort and a focused corporate culture – two things that OceanGate takes very seriously and that are not assessed during classification.

But it's ok, because they have a corporate culture of safety.


Frick-up #2: Electronixed

So this is an interesting note that I found is that the submarine has no onboard navigational system,. Yes, you read that correctly. They operate it by having a different ship monitor its position, and then send it text messages telling it where it is.

Journ*list David Pogue, who rode in Titan to view the Titanic in 2022, noted that Titan was not equipped with an emergency locator beacon; during his expedition, the surface support vessel lost track of the Titan "for about five hours, and adding such a beacon was discussed. They could still send short texts to the sub, but did not know where it was. It was quiet and very tense, and they shut off the ship's internet to keep us from tweeting."

:#marseyspit:

These people are all going to die

That's part of the reason they can't find it, is because the submarine doesn't know where it is, and can't tell anyone even if it did. It even failed before, and they still didn't fix it. That's not just stupid, it's criminally negligent.

The controls of this thing consist of a single button, and is piloted by a PlayStation controller. I'll point out that the idea of using a gamepad as a submarine helm control is not necessarily a bad one, and was actually implemented by USN submariners to great success. It's intuitive to zoomer helmsmen, really easy to teach, and was actually a way better control scheme than what they were using before. That being said, USN submarines are extremely well designed, very redundant, and extremely well-built. This stupid thing has none of that.

Because of the lack of navigation and emergency beacon, these people are very likely going to die, and it's going to be very unpleasant. It's really hard to find submarines even when they want to be found, and there's still no means of even rescuing these people even if they're found. They've got anti-submarine-warfare aircraft searching and everything, but still nothing.


Frick-up #3: Oxy-Constants

I can't think of a good pun for this. There's no real good source on this that I've seen because it's kind of an obscure problem, but they also fricked up the gas lines on the ship.

When maintaining an atmosphere for people to breathe, you have to be pretty careful with the gas composition. You need gas cyclers to remove CO2 buildup, and replace it with oxygen. Nitrogen doesn't need to be replaced because it's not consumed. This is standard on airplanes, submarines, spacecraft, anything sealed. Failure to do this was infamously the cause of the Apollo 1 disaster, where a pure, high-pressure oxygen atmosphere caused a dramatic fire when some nylon started to overheat.

Can you guess what OceanGate have done?

:marsey#agree:

That's right, they've been injecting pure oxygen into the cabin, with untested electronics on board.

Jesus Christ, guys. You get so many startup CEOs bitching about safety standards, and every now and then when they push the limits, we all get a very public reminder of why they're there in the first place. And it usually costs the lives of people who were tricked into getting onto that stupid butt vehicle in the first place.

!effortposters

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Sienna Wereham, 25, Austin Texas

Self-rated - 1.5/10

Personal Life:

  • From Montana

  • Lives with Boyfriend (Korean)

    • He pays rent, she "takes care of everything else"

    • Owes him money

    • 29, law student

    • He gets money from his family

    • Just finished his first year (2 more years then Bar)

  • Was doing pretty good this time last year but "then like I had a series of like um events come up and that kind of resulted in me using my credit card a lot more than what I normally would have been using"

    • Trying to focus on paying off her credit card but it's going slowly
  • No car, uses his car to drive to work

    • Lives close enough to law school he bikes there

Career:

  • Bond underwriting assistant

    • 23/hr, 37.5 hours per week (doesn't know yearly pay)

    • Was 40 hours they decreased this during covid?

    • Thinks about 42'000

    • recently hired as a full time employee (only 2 pay periods?)

      • 1'200 a paycheck?
    • 401k contribution is 3% (company match )

    • Contract to hire type thing, she is hired as of March?

      • Paid weekly as contract, biweekly as full timer?

Debt/Expenses:

  • timestamp

  • Personal trainer twice a week

    • Trying to lose weight

    • Virtual appointments since trainer moved from Austin to Chicago

    • Might be $55 an appointment, neither person says the price but that's what's on the venmo

  • Credit Card 1 timestamp

    • "Trying to pay off"

    • "I was paid weekly when I was a contract worker and I switched to biweekly as a full time employee so there was like a bit there where I umm uh I need to go to like the grocery store and stuff but I didn't have enough money to go to the grocery store"

      • DSP soundbite :marseyxd:
    • $3212 => Paid 271, Spent $1688, $91 interest => $4720

  • Student Loans

    • University of Hawaii at Hilo

      • No idea what this is and I probably heard it wrong timestamp

      • Wanted to go to Portland State but that was too expensive for her (50-60k)

    • 32'000

      • About a 400 minimum payment (5-6% interest)

      • Always been on deferment, graduated in 2021

  • Owes Boyfriend $1'800 timestamp

    • Had borrowed money to pay off her credit card that she'd used to make purchases when they first moved to Austin

    • Where'd he get this money from

      • "I can't share that" :marseydetective:
    • Gave her the money in August (they moved there in July) ($4'000)

    • After this money her credit card was $2'000

      • Boyfriend said not to pay him back initially because he wanted her to pay off the card, the card is now 4'720 :marseyxd:
    • Currently paying him $400 a month

Retirement/Savings:

  • Story time timestamp

    • "Yeah, so, about this time last year um I had about a thousand dollars in my savings account or twelve-hundred actually but then like I said earlier um there's like a series of like events that happened um"

    • Grandmother in Idaho had a health scare while Sienna was in Korea (boyfriend is from Korea) so flight costs, then spending money while she was visiting?

    • She and her boyfriend had nothing saved when moving into the Austin apartment after that?

      • Took on debt on spending to furnish apartment and groceries? A little uncertain, she backtracks on whether it's furnishings or just essentials

      • Boyfriend had just paid tuition so his account was pretty empty

    • Initial job when she moved to Austin was very stressful

      • Remote job, no friends in Austin, shopping was her only reason to go outside
  • Checking

    • $98 started => 1691 in, 1232 out => $557
  • Savings

    • $69.26 stated => 10 out for being below min, => 59.26

      • Two charges a half month apart each $5
    • Bank had increased minimum balance from 50 to 100 and she hadn't seen that notice?

      • Bank is up in North Dakota
  • Retirement account

    • $86
  • Robin Hood

    • $77 total in here
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EFFORTPOST UPDATE #8: I am tired and going to bed Janniecord is taking the janniecide well

Right on schedule after the long weekend in which the jannies worked and Reddit employees had barbecues like normal people we are back! If you're just tuning in, you're a few dozen leak threads late. But the latest development was this:

https://rdrama.net/post/180607/at-last-jannycide-is-upon-us

which isn't leaky, but was the public announcement of this reckoning. And now without further ado, today's leaks:


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687306644798558.webp

:#marseydemopped::#marseyspez:

Will update with meltdowns as they accumulate. Just wanted to get this thread up so they know I’m still watching, I’ve just been busy :star:

:#marseybongojanny:



20:19 EST Gigajannies acknowledge the janniecide:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873068909735963.webp



20:26 EST: jannies are taking to the white supremacist platform Twitter to sneed now

..and they’re crying about getting the rDrama treatment :marseycarptrollg#un:

https://x.com/jackdaniel8008/status/1671297523108007941?s=46

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873073428213387.webp



21:11 The #resignations channel is born

I lost another jannie groomercord account due to suspicious activity and I am now down to three. The walls are closing in.

:marseycarpd#evil:

But anyway they've created a #resignations channel and the infighting is starting back up

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873100781036127.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687310020435923.webp

lol they're talking about me even though the word rdrama gets autodeleted :marseycarpshy#:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687310595125777.webp



21:27 Intermission

While we wait for more shareworthy tantrums, @ForcedRegistrycel has collated some fun stuff about a dethroned /r/celebrities jannie, one @Vaprz, who is in ruins after losing 14 years of his life to moderating /r/celebrities only to be fired from a volunteer position. I would strongly recommend visiting his thread!

https://rdrama.net/post/180641/janicide-horror-stories-removed-as-moderator



21:57 Emotions run high

Tensions continue to mount in the newly-christened #resignations and /u/HKayn is repeatedly begging people not to make any rash, life-altering decisions like resigning from a moderator position or deleting one's Reddit account.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126351970282.webp

The users in the powerjannie Groomercord briefly consider whether turning Reddit over to other powermods is the best course of action.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126352992647.webp

AND THEY HAVE A NEW PLAN - DELETE FRICKING EVERYTHING! YEAH! BURN REDDIT TO THE GROUND!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126355708241.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687312635714409.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126359529443.webp

They go on to rule this out. Not because Reddit would obviously just roll their deletions back, but because they (again) don't want to lose their positions or accounts :marseyxd#::

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126362235308.webp

/u/Meepster23, who our own @Julian_H_Cope calls "one of the few respectable mods", pulls the trigger and deletes his Reddit account!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873126362698114.webp

...just kidding lol he lied.

While I have you here, give this a listen!

:#marseyjamming:



21:59 RAPIDFIRE UPDATES - SADMINS FUCKED AROUND AND FOUND OUT :#marseyjannymin!i:

Is the janniecide over? Six million mops in four hours always did seem suspicious. The numbers just don't add up. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but just like, think about it bro.

https://x.com/JackDaniel8008/status/1671332720729903104

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873129318135414.webp

I can't believe the jannie counteroffensive is winning lmao. Kill me.

:marseycarpsalute#: the fallen chadmins



23:29 BLIND KINKSTERS

I have no idea what this means but something about accessibility on p*rn subs for blind pornsick addicts??

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873178115949023.webp

They can’t name rDrama (literally! they made a bot to autodelete any messages containing “rDrama”!) but they’re talking about us. And chtorrr. And Marty the Hate Cat.

:#marseychtorrr2::#marseyhomohitler:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687317991735635.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873179918796833.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873181500819385.webp

A hyperautistic lunatic has noticed the reddit content policy is no longer available in English :marseythonk:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873181499907358.webp

https://redditinc.com/policies/content-policy



23:50 Bedtime

Ok I am very bored and getting off now. What do you think will happen with the content policy?

One final leak: they think random users who just add subs to their feed to scroll their FYP while they shit are going to rally to their heroic jannies’ defense :marseykneel:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873198221219192.webp

Goodnight dramneurodivergents, pray that we all wake to a world free of jannies :#marseycarpsleeping:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16873196800132532.webp

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EFFORTPOST The Dog Question

A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing

The phrase “a wolf in sheep’s clothing” has Biblical origins, with the Gospel of Matthew 7:15 reading: “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” As the idiom implies, one should be wary of those who pose as harmless when they are in fact predatory. Beyond its Biblical context, the lesson has implications in daily life, as it instructs one to be discerning regarding who and what one allows into one’s life. Importantly, the idiom stresses that one should not rely on looks to make judgments, as they can be misleading.

In nature, there are several instances of animals who attempt to be “wolves in sheep’s clothing”. This is a tactic known as aggressive mimicry, and it involves animals attempting to look harmless to prevent being detected as predators. The zone-tailed hawk, for instance, resembles the turkey vulture when in flight. It flies among them, lulling its prey into a false sense of confidence until it is close enough to strike.

As a whole, humans are wise enough to not go near wolves. Their visual appearance is frightening enough. Their perky ears remind one that they are alert predators with keen senses, and their yellow eyes carry no warmth. With their intimidating size and massive jaws, it is clear that they are carnivorous beasts that are not to be trifled with.

In contrast, the domesticated dog has floppy ears, large eyes like a newborn human baby, and a rounded forehead. Many have shortened muzzles and curly tails, and they retain puppy-like behaviour for their whole lives. Consequently, it is dogs and not wolves that have earned the title of “furbaby”, and it is a common belief that the dog is an animal that is suitable to bring into the home and around one’s young offspring.

When comparing the dog and wolf, it is worthwhile to ask which one regularly harms humans. In the past century, there have been two fatal wolf attacks on humans in North America. In contrast, dogs have caused 279 human deaths between 1979 and 1994 in the USA alone. Dogs savage humans far more than wolves, yet it is the dog that is treated as the kind one. It hides behind the innocence of its appearance. The dog is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

A Man's Best Friend

“A Diamond is Forever” is a marketing slogan used by De Beers for decades to sell precious minerals. As De Beers summarises, the phrase “encapsulates the security and eternal romance that comes with owning a diamond and it marks the sentiment of responsibility and commitment between two people”. With four words, De Beers has been able to permanently entangle the concept of love with diamonds.

As many are well aware, the value of diamonds is artificial, and there is no real connection between diamonds and love. Buying a diamond for your spouse does not demonstrate your love, nor does it guarantee that the love will last forever. Nevertheless, through the power of marketing, the phrase persists as a truism that continues to influence society in drastic ways.

The modern man thinks of himself as quite clever to see through the trickery of the slogan “a diamond is forever”. However, the general public remains mostly accepting of a similarly baseless truism – “a dog is a man’s best friend”. It is an easy belief to accept, as humans have been living alongside dogs for centuries. When the phrase is used by the pet industry, it denotes something entirely different. It is meant to imply that dogs are a part of the family; that they go beyond working animals and can live beside our young and in our homes. It implies that dogs can be integrated into all aspects of human life.

There is a marked attempt to keep this big lie alive, and the drive is particularly strong in the West. Once one notices it, it is impossible to not notice it any longer. Time and time again, dogs are portrayed as loving, loyal animals. In popular media, it is not uncommon for dogs to be heroic characters strategically used to garner sympathy from the audience. Paw Patrol, Marley & Me, Bolt, Eight Below, the list goes on. Sickeningly, the majority of these films are marketed towards children, who are primary victims of dog attacks.

Pray tell, what kind of friend sends at least a thousand Americans to the emergency room daily? Is it acceptable for friends to attack 4.7 million Americans yearly? Do friends maul your offspring unprovoked out of jealousy?

Let us compare the dog to other common suburban pets. Dogs bite, disfigure, and kill our young daily, yet we feed and house them. Far from being friends, they are ungrateful, contemptuous creatures that have waged war against us for centuries:

>The Center for Disease Control and Prevention estimates half of all children 12 years-of-age and under have been bitten by a dog.

>The vast majority of dog bites are from a dog that the child is acquainted with - his or her own, a neighbour’s, or a friend’s dog.

>79% of fatal dog attacks are on children.

>Even small breeds such as Dachshunds and Pomeranians have attacked children resulting in fatalities.

No other pets pose these risks to us. No other pet will attack half the population, target children, and fill up hospitals daily. Cats, birds, rabbits, hamsters, none of these pets popular in residential areas maul children. Only one animal does this. Dogs are not man’s best friend. Compared to the rest of our animal companions, they are man's worst enemy.

Bite the hand that feeds you

As part of the dog propaganda machine, there has been a concerted effort to conceal the dog bite epidemic. So strong is the dog propaganda machine that children, the primary victims of dogs, are the demographic most likely to desire one in their home. Children are not born loving dogs – this is the product of years of Courage the Cowardly Dog, Scooby Doo, and the rest of the dog propaganda that has normalized the idea of dogs in the home. With these propaganda pieces, dogs are anthropomorphised and given human voices and emotions, convincing children that dogs are something other than bestial predators with high predatory drives. These beliefs are carried into adulthood, and by that time they have been held for so long that they are seldom questioned.

However, much like one stepping out from an ultra-religious family or an extremist political movement, once one recognises the glaring flaws of one’s beliefs, slowly but surely, a sense of shame creeps in as one realises what a ridiculous meme one had been a victim of. To unstick oneself from the dogist meme, there are few cowtools more powerful than raw numbers. When attempting to portray dogs as harmless, dogists will often focus on a single statistic – deaths. Dogs are responsible for about 30-50 deaths in the USA yearly. The argument made is that this is a relatively small number, and that such anomalies can be prevented by practicing dog safety.

Firstly, it should be noted that the majority of the deaths are children. This cannot be ignored, nor can it be understated. Dog victims are almost always children. Secondly, contrary to popular belief, most dog attacks are unprovoked. In many cases, the victim is not even aware that the dog is around. Alternatively, what is considered “provocation” is regular human behaviour, such as a baby crying or squealing, or a child running, or, heaven forbid, walking near the dog while it is eating.

Most importantly, focusing on deaths allows dogists to ignore the terrible non-fatal effects of dog attacks, including disfigurements, psychological trauma, and lifelong injuries that leave victims disabled. There is also a high pathogenic risk that comes from dogs, as they are the primary transmitters of rabies to humans. One in five dog bites become infected.

So how many people are bitten by dogs? It is impossible to know. A survey done in Pennsylvania revealed that the rate of dog bites was 36 times higher than what was reported to authorities. It’s in a dog owner’s best interest to not report dog bites and to try their best to not visit a hospital to treat wounds, especially in USA where healthcare costs are exorbitant. Consequently, dogs continually bite the hand that feeds them, and the true statistics are never captured.

The question sincere dogists are always left asking after their dog attacks is why? After being fed and treated well its entire life, why would the dog suddenly snap? The answer, more often than not, is predatory drift. Regardless of how much training a dog has, it is still liable to predatory drift. This cannot be trained out of a dog because it is part of its core instincts it inherited from wolves. You cannot predict when it will happen, and even the most loving dog can go into predatory drift:

>Predatory drift is a glitch in a dog's prey drive that causes a dog to display predatory behaviour. The dog tries to stop an agitated, squirming, squealing, running thing from moving and, unfortunately, this involves using its mouth and teeth.

Dogs will be dogs.

Protect and Serve

Of all dogs, it is the police dog that is treated with the most nobility. They’re viewed as heroic, selfless, disciplined, and brave. To interfere with them is a crime, and they receive respect almost on par with their human counterparts.

Police dogs should be abolished immediately. Setting an animal on a human being is unnecessarily degrading and inhumane, and it should not be a routine form of aggression used by law enforcement. It is essentially turning the other person into the prey of a dog. In those moments, the victim is less than a dog, and they are brutalized in an animalistic manner. This barbaric use of dogs is done specifically to degrade the victim and strip them of their dignity, and such tactics are cruel and unusual and have no place in law enforcement. Cops should not get to set dogs on unarmed, non-violent crimes. A dog bite from a German Shepherd results in lifelong disfigurements and permanent injuries. This is a disproportional response.

>An extensive investigation led by the Marshall Project last year examining more than 150 severe bites found almost none of the victims were armed and most were suspected of low-level, non-violent crimes. Some were innocent bystanders. Among those cases are an Arizona man whose face was bitten off, and a 51-year-old man who committed no crime but was mauled to death in Alabama when a dog tore an artery in his groin.

Police are not training cats to do this. Nor are they training pigs, goats, or donkeys. Just dogs. They are uniquely suited for the task of human torture. They have no sense of right and wrong, and they easily are taught to attack innocent, helpless individuals.

>Laureen Frausto was sleeping in an abandoned West Covina, California, post office two years ago when she woke up to a police dog mauling her arm, according to a lawsuit Lacy filed. The dog allegedly dragged her more than 40 feet while officers asked her questions. Frausto underwent four surgeries, lost function in her left arm and hand, and was left with permanent deformities

Look into your heart and tell me that is a proportional response to a homeless person sleeping in a post office. They also attack innocent people, because dogs cannot understand human affairs and discern between suspects and innocent people.

>Desiree Collins sued the city of St. Paul after a dog latched onto her elbow as she was taking out her garbage in the morning while police were out looking for someone else.

Frank Baker, a Black man, was not suspected of any crime when he was brutally attacked by a police dog in 2016 while a cop kicked him in the ribs.

Enough. This needs to be put to a stop.

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On August of 9 March 2015 politics student Chumani Maxwele threw a bucket of shit over the Rhodes statue which had dominated the main stairway of UCT Upper Campus for over 110 years. He was just another black activist seeking a cause in his restlessness, as so many black students before them. But this moment would be the tinder which spread like Canadian wildfire through the entirety of UCT and then wider South Africa, all within the span of just one month.

The University leadership capitulated, and on 9 April 2015, following a UCT Council vote the previous night, the statue was removed. The Rhodes Must Fall movement, reached all universities of South Africa, and would endure for an entire year afterwards, and influenced nationwide protests of a great deal of unrelated post-apartheid activism. National headlines would dominate from the #RhodesMustFall movement, whenever South Africa was mentioned.

The University of Cape Town would be crippled by activist students, outside troublemakers, and EFF Youth League extremists. The university would be unable to function for an entire year. I know this, because I was there, and I lost 18 month of my life. I was supposed to finish my B.Sc in Geomatics (the science of Surveying) in 4 years, but instead it took 6. I was nearly financially crippled by those 2 years, and became a great financial burden to my parents. I was within in a hair's breath of becoming destitute without a degree to show for it, a horror fate for poor whites in modern RSA.


CECIL JOHN RHODES:

Cecil John Rhodes was the Prime Minister of the Cape Colony from 1890 to 1896, and a very powerful and wealthy magnate in South Africa. He influenced an extraordinary deal of South African politics, and much of the way that South Africa became the nation it is today is a result of his hand and influence. You can argue he's the most influential British person in all of RSA history, if not the most singular influential one single person in all of the history of South Africa itself. Yet, funnily enough, most foreigners, let alone South Africans, especially Black South Africans, would never even heard of him, especially since the ANC party basically completely gutted all of the history of whites in the South African history curriculum since the early 2000s. That is, most had never heard of him until the events of March 2015 in UCT.

The most important thing to know about Rhodes is that he made the jingoism of Churchill look meek. He was a hardcore British imperialist and believed absolutely that Britain deserved to rule the Earth entire. His most aggravating quote was: "To be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life." He had vast influence into all Bongs believing in the domination of Africa, over both blacks and non-british whites. He was the ultimate British supremacist, and the real life caricature of historic colonial overlords.

He was also the owner of the very famous BSACo (British South Africa Company). The BSACo was deemed at the time to be the wealthiest company on the African continent, and considered to be bested only by its much much more famous cousin - the East India Company which brought in the absolute lionshare of colonial wealth back to England.

Rhodes' most infamous ambition was to create an African type silk road which stretched from, (it has been suggested that Rhodes' ambition was to create a zone of British commercial and political influence from) "Cape to Cairo". He basically wanted to build train railways all the way from Cape Town to North Africa, and have his company BSACo be the main contractor to engineer this titanic objective. He was very open about his life ambitions, and was the one to coin the famous phrase: "Cape to Cairo". Although modern people who use the phrase "Cape to Cairo" tend to refer to continent long bike races. Here is a famous cartoon about Cecil standing over Africa:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740569352386.webp

To further demonstrate just how influential and powerful the man was, the country of Rhodesia (pre-Zimbabwe) is named after him. Yes dramatards, THAT Rhodesia is named after THIS Rhodes! The forming of Rhodesia, and the hand Cecil and his company BSACo (British South Africa Company) had in its founding, is another colossal history Longpost itself, but what's significant is just to demonstrate to dramatards the extent of the man's larger than life presence in Southern Africa.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687274058403279.webp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia_(region)


BONGS:

A lot of Bongs, both foreign and South African, have a bit of an ego regarding the whites' mistreatment of blacks within the long history of South Africa. Because of the incredible international infamy of Apartheid, and the association of Afrikaners with the mistreatment and discrimination of blacks in RSA, their part in the colonial oppression is often overlooked and unknown by the majority of mankind, especially the stupid Bongs themselves. Bongs have this arrogance that only Afrikaners took part in Apartheid, and that boers were singularly responsible for upholding of the National Party (the Apartheid gov), and that they never had any involvement whatsoever, or never greatly benefitted from being white under Apartheid, while it reigned. It is true that on average Bongs were more liberal than Boers for the majority of the Union of South Africa's existence, but those were only averages. The vast greater population of SA Bongs were just as racist, and just as indifferent towards the discrimination against blacks and non-whites for the entirety of SA's history.

While a majority of South African white liberals whom stood against Apartheid in the 1970s were Bongs, they were still an aberration and the exception to the rule. Additionally, a lot of Bongs who think they are "History Buffs" :marseyakshually::soyjakssmirk:, love to bring up the reasons why the proto-Boers/Dutch launched their Groot Trek (Great Trek/Move) inland from the Cape Colony, was because they disagreed with Britain outlawing slavery as the sole singular reason for why the Dutch left the cape Colony away from British rule in 1833, and that the super progressive and utopian British were the heralds of modernity :marseybiting: against the backwards barbarism of other nations. Gee Bongs thanks for outlawing slavery. From yourselves. :marseybeanannoyed::marseybeanannoyed::marseybeanannoyed:

A lot of the foundation for Apartheid was already laid by British men like Cecil Rhodes, and Afrikaners merely took these ideas and structures into greater effect when they became the most powerful voting block 40 years after Rhodes' death (he lived 5 July 1853 – 26 March 1902). Example:


RHODES WAS A SICK CHILD:

https://journals.co.za/doi/pdf/10.10520/AJA00089176_4091

https://hekint.org/2018/12/18/the-man-with-a-hole-in-his-heart/

Rhodes was born in Bongland Hertfordshire, but he was a very sickly kid. His parents tried a lot, but the boy was always fluctuating between adequate and bad health. When he survived his childhood and turned 17, he was still very sick. For a long time it was believed he had tuberculosis in his youth. He was sent to South Africa by his family when he turned 17 years old, in the hope that the climate might improve his health. A lot of doctors at the time had suggested warmer climates for colonialists which had lung and heart problems at the time. A doctor in South Africa later diagnosed a condition where he basically had a hole in his heart, which taxed his breathing capability. It is remarkable that this man would survive an entire middle aged, stress inducing lifetime, filled with heartattacks to enact his will and brutality. Regardless the warmer SA climate did aid his health and prolonged his lifespan.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740585262098.webp


RHODES BECOMES POWERFUL AND WEALTHY:

When Cecil turned 18, he basically instantly turned into the SA version of the Wolf of Wallstreet. He 1st funded, then bought the Rothschild Company which mined diamonds in the infamous Kimberly mines in 1871. He began to systematically buy out and consolidate diamond mines. Over the next two decades he gained near-complete domination of the world diamond market, forming a massive monopoly. His diamond company De Beers, formed in 1888. Yes dramatards, THAT De Beers. You guys beginning to grasp just how absolutely prominent this man was?

With his monopoly in diamonds in Southern Africa, and his BSACo (British South Africa Company), he became a titanic figure and turned his efforts and influence into politics.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/apartheid-made-in-britain-richard-dowden-explains-how-churchill-rhodes-and-smuts-caused-black-south-africans-to-lose-their-rights-1370856.html

Rhodes entered the Cape Parliament at the age of 27 in 1881 were he became a political force. 9 years later he became Prime Minister. During his time as prime minister, Rhodes used his political power to expropriate land from black Africans through the Glen Grey Act, while also tripling the wealth requirement for voting under the Franchise and Ballot Act, effectively barring black people from taking part in elections.

The Glen Grey Act of the Parliament of the Cape Colony basically did this: it established a system of individual (rather than communal) land tenure and created a labour tax to force Xhosa men into employment on commercial farms or in industry. It basically overnight caused blacks in the Cape Colony juristiction to be unable to leverage their communal land as economic assets, thus throwing them into the financial lower classes - this was by design.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740587288778.webp

Then later Cecil went full slow-cooking-the-frog mode, and enacted another devastating law. The Franchise and Ballot Act (1892) of the Cape Colony, which raised the property franchise qualification, thus disenfranchising a large proportion of the Cape's non-white voters, and a number of poor white voters. It was a significant early step in overturning the Cape's liberal and multi-racial constitution, and causing separate laws to apply to separate races.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120616095413/http://www.sahistory.org.za/liberation-struggle-south-africa/constructing-union-south-africa-negotiations-and-contestations-1902

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687274058853772.webp

You beginning to understand how the British had an immensely influential hand in laying the framework and foundation for Apartheid 40 years later? Their hands are not clean, and modern Bongs trying to distance themselves from Afrikaners as the sole arbiters of Apartheid, is the same as Austrians escaping the stigma of Germans being the sole arbiters of Nazi Germany. Your hands are and have never been clean SA Bongs! You just don't know your histroty.

https://www.sahistory.org.za/people/cecil-john-rhodes


RHODES SCOLARSHIPS AND THE FOUNDING OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CAPE TOWN:

The Rhodes Scholarship is the current oldest graduate scholarship in the world, and is considered very prestigious among English-speaking nations. But more importantly his financial contributions to Academic institutions of the Commonwealth, also extended to the University of Cape Town.

UCT was 1st established in 1829 as the South African College, but later it was granted full university status in 1918, making it the oldest university in South Africa and the oldest university in Sub-Saharan Africa in continuous operation. And of course, most significant to our story, is the famous Rhodes statue situated upon the main stairway leading up to the UCT Upper Campus where all the lecture halls are located. His presence and influence upon the founding of the University of Cape Town would rest atop this staircase for the next 110 years, staring through his statue.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740591282246.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740597011096.webp

All until March 2015.


RHODES HATED BY BOERS:

It's important to note that basically all of the famous british Imperialists were despised by the Boers, as they had direct influence and hand into the Anglo-Boer wars fought between the Dutch/Proto-Boers between 1880 and 1902, where Britain tried to dominate the Boers when Gold was discovered in Gauteng and Transvaal in 1884. Cecil Rhodes directed these ventures as the Boer Republics physically stood in the way of his mad Cape-to-Cairo railway imperial dream, and the greed for the largest gold mines on earth at that time, discovered in the Boer Republics, also motivated the Cape British into open warfare, and to overcome the challenge to their imperial domination over Southern Africa.

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/discovery-gold-1884

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Boer_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War

This is another 3 Longposts, but what's important to note, is that adoration for Rhodes was not universal, and that modern Boomer afrikaners had very low opinions of arch British imperials like Cecil Rhodes whom had brought immense suffering towards the boer peoples during the Boer Wars. Had what followed in this post not been a modern reincarnation of Black-vs-White protestations in the Rhodes-Must-Fall riots and strikes, then ironically enough, afrikaners and blacks would have been unified in their desire to not venerate the famously stereotypical cruel imperial overlord of Rhodes' statue.

Instead the Rhodes Must Fall movement, spearheaded by the EFF Youth League became very toxic very quick, and race relations degenerated extremely quickly in March of 2015 - both between UCT students, and the country entire.


A BUCKET OF SHIT TRANSFORMS UCT:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-31945680

Now that I've put Cecil Rhodes into context, I believe you dramatards can understand how the statue of the most archetypical colonial white overlord, would rile the ire of Blacks and black south african students. It should be noted that the Rhodes statue has in fact been the subject of much controversy for much longer, prior to 2015. Way back even in the 1950s afrikaner students would protest its enshrinement on a public plaza - as a symbol of British colonialism and all the other isms which liberal students protested since forever. Black and white boer students have had on and off mini protests for at least 70 years that I know off, but they were tiny, insignificant and immediately forgotten through history.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Cecil-John-Rhodes-As-divisive-in-death-as-in-life-20150322

What made the 2015 March anti-Rhodes strike such a nuclear shitstorm was 2 things: 1st by 2015, a very large amount of South Africans have obtained smartphones and access to the internet. Cellphones have become so cheap by this time, that even the poorest ghetto or township black person living in a shanty town house made of sink, possessed a phone. And as the phone market progressed from featureless nokias to cheaper and cheaper smartphones with access to bandwidth internet, so too did their access to the worst invention since the creation of mustard gas: TWATTER! :marseybluecheck::marseybluecheck::marseybluecheck:

2011 - 2015 was the height of RSA internet explosion, where every voice could be heard. But you know the SA saying - empty cans make the most noise:marseyearrape:. I mention this because it meant that stupid movements which caught public attention could spread like wildfire within the span of an afternoon. Whereas in the age of where newspapers dominated, news took about a week or at least a few days to spread down the grapevine. Now with the onlineification of South Africans, and all screetching now moved at the speed of greased lightning, causing ripples to much larger audiences.

https://www.iesabroad.org/programs/cape-town-university-cape-town#about-destination

The second cause of the 2015 March strike, was Burger Students. That's right americans! This is all YOUR fault! :marseyburger::marseyscooter: Prior to 2015, foreign exchange students made up between 15-20% of the total population of the UCT student body, most of them americans. Now at this time in 2014 & 2015, a great deal of american culture got spread between liberals through the almighty American Cultural Megaphone :marseyaaalaser: One of the big topics dominating liberal discourse was Confederate Statues in public places of veneration. And many blacks yanks weren't so keen on having slaveowners being adulated in the town square. So many black and liberal white yanks would scream for the removal of Confederate generals' statues in burgerland's various states. Most of this wouldn't go anywhere until the 2020 George Floyd protests & riots, where a great many deal of Burger statues would be removed or toppled in rivers and shit.

Point is, this protestation against statues as symbols of oppression or previous regimes witch screwed over discriminated people, was very in vogue at that moment in time. And liberals with too much energy, along with student activists whom are always oversexed, and seeking for the next big purpose would share this ideology and sentiments between each other, when visiting oversea universities. Just look at the current trend wave of libtards fusing their fricking hands into pavement and forcing firefighters to physically cut them out of the tar of highways.

https://www.chronicle.co.zw/poo-flinging-uct-student-says-suspension-motivated/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687274059901331.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740603848875.webp

Anyways, in 2015, the EFF youth League and other random black activists group would do the usual protestor shit, but it was specifically Chumani Maxwele with his famous bucket of literal shit he threw at the statue which caught the eyes of the RSA black public. As I said - a surprisingly large amount of people didn't and still don't know RSA white history and especially the history of the man Cecil Rhodes, including modern bongs themselves, and more importantly the black public.

Once black activists got the idea from their burger counterparts, and they found out just what a grade a douchebag Rhodes was, especially towards blacks; and his influence towards proto-Apartheid policies, they had the perfect target for their ire, and the perfect outlet for their youthful energy.

The guy (Chumani Maxwele) was naturally put before the university Tribunal and tried for defacing UCT property, as was the rules of the University. He was then subsequently suspended for his actions. As you can imagine this enraged the EFF, the black activists and every single busybody in a 100km radius from the university.

The following articles summarizes the viewpoint of the black activists best of most articles I could find:

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/protesters-throw-poo-on-rhodes-statue-1829526

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Student Chumani Maxwele led the way as he flung the human waste on the statue, calling for the monument to be taken down. “As black students we are disgusted by the fact that this statue still stands here today as it is a symbol of white supremacy. How we can be living in a time of transformation when this statue still stands and our hall is named after (Leander Starr) Jameson, who was a brutal lieutenant under Rhodes,” said Maxwele.

Maxwele and his followers called for transformation of the university’s infrastructure, including the renaming of campus roads and buildings.

“This poo that we are throwing on the statue represents the shame of black people. By throwing it on the statue we are throwing our shame to whites’ affluence. As black students here we have to change our ways just to fit in, and we have to keep quiet for almost three years before we can speak in the classrooms. It is time for all of that to change.”

It is not the first time that Maxwele’s name has been in the news. The 30-year-old politics student made headlines in 2010 after he was detained by President Jacob Zuma’s bodyguards for flashing his middle finger in the direction of the president’s motorcade.The statue of Rhodes is on the upper campus overlooking the university’s rugby fields on Madiba Circle, formerly known as Rugby Road.

The university’s upper and middle campuses are on land bequeathed to the nation by Rhodes as the site for a national university.

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The UCT management went hard on him, because he had not followed procedures for obtaining permits, and informing of his protests.

====================(from article)

But Maxwele said: “How can this statue still stand on a road called Madiba Circle? By doing that we are making history beautiful when it is not. Also every year we have the Steve Biko memorial speech and it is held in the Jameson Hall. These are all fraudulent relationships.” University spokeswoman Patricia Lucas said the institution was unaware of the protest.

“The university has procedures in place to allow students to hold peaceful and safe protests on issues that concern them. The protesters did not follow such procedures, and by dumping excrement in a public place they violated the law. They did not inform UCT of their intention to demonstrate, nor did they issue a statement to the university about the reasons for this protest."

“UCT is investigating this action and we will take legal steps if it is established that there was unlawful behaviour,” said Lucas.During the protest a UCT security officer attempted to physically stop Daily Voice photographer Ayanda Ndamane from taking pictures, although students took pictures and filmed the incident with their cellphones. Lucas said: “The vice-chancellor’s office has demanded a comprehensive and immediate report on this alleged incident.”

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Here is a youtube video of a UCT security guard trying to stop our Shit slinger friend


THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA OVERREACTS AS USUAL:

Because of the quick sequence of the events described above, and before UCT management could even react, let alone be aware of the defacement of the Rhodes Statue, the news of Chumani Maxwele's vandalization, and his subsequent suspension, drove home the view in Black Twitter, and the Black media that the very structurally racist UCT was basically shitcanning a valiant protestor against a legacy symbol of white supremacy and racism. Arguments spiraled on the internet and became toxic very quickly.

The same argument of protesting against the Rhodes statue soon escalated into the removal of it from the Campus instead. The same fights as in burgerland, as to whether the historically significance of the statue of Cecil Rhodes should be preserved regardless of whether the man was bad, but had great influence on educating future South Africans, including eventually black south african students, VS the symbolic negativity which the statue inspired as an icon of the previous white supremacy regime outstrips its historic significance, and such a negative symbol should be removed at all costs.

It's important for dramatards to understand how quickly these events escalated, and how little the benefit of doubt was given to the UCT management, as soon within the span of days and weeks, even publicly famous politicians like our dear friend Julias Malema, the leader of the EFF party deigned to reward the country with his insightful opinions - such as that the UCT was run by evil racist white supremacists. While UCT staff would just be recovering from one bomb, another would follow from black public bashing days after, and so on and so on.


https://uni24.co.za/university-cape-town-racial-demographics/

At this point in time only roughly 33% of the university was black, a point which black activists and liberals constantly drummed

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740606086211.webp

This also made black activists feel the University didn't understand their frustration with the naming of Lecture Halls and buildings, like the Jameson Hall examination theatre, which dominated the middle of Upper Campus, after previous colonial figures, no matter how influential they were towards the formation of the University. It was a pretty fricking toxic atmosphere to be in.

The thing is that the ANC handling of schooling and Education had been an astronomical disaster by 2015, causing the majority of black students graduating from mostly black schools to be woefully uneducated and unprepared for adult life and business. (This is another Long LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG kaamrev post btw)

This meant that basically only a sliver of the brightest black students could make it through the maelstrom of ANC ruled education (the same shit rule that caused us to lose electricity 6 hours a day :marseybeanannoyed:) and be qualified towards the minimum merit required to gain entry towards the University of Cape Town, and all other Universities in the country.

The ANC and EFF had pushed very hard to increase black student percentage numbers from the 2000s to 2015, but the University of Cape Town remained adamant that they would never allow entry to any student unless they qualified. They would go to great measures to create grants and scholorships specifically towards blacks and coloureds for their disadvantages, but they still needed to have the minimum academic standards. Affirmative Action towards blacks would only remain on the recruitment level, NEVER towards the admission level, and this positively enraged the ANC, and every black wingcuck since for over a decade by the time 2015 March came along.

This might seem like another kaamrev tangent, but I mention this to demonstrate just how utterly toxic the atmosphere around UCT, and the discussion around the Rhodes memorial came. Every single racist subject possibly applicable to UCT was thrown at the UCT Management by these activists, by politicians like Julias Malema. It was a trashfire without moderation and sense

http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2015/03/30/malema-adds-to-the-rhodes-must-fall-chorus

I do genuinely understand where the core of discontent from these black peeps came from, it sucks to live under the shadow of previous douchebags who had power over you. But I think you americans have seen with the George Floyd protests how something simple, and initially agreeworthy like Burger police brutality, could spiral out of control into national riots, by imbeciles, rioters, and angry people just seeking for a reason to cause immense trouble.


REACTIONS OUTSIDE UCT:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/03/28/395608605/why-south-african-students-say-the-statue-of-rhodes-must-fall

A lot of black South Africans still felt that despite 20 years passing by the time 2015 arrives, since the Mandela Administration had enacted reform and democratization of the country, that the extreme inequality between black and white was still a suffering and source of pain and wounded pride. Many young black south africans, along with their black boomers were sometimes just as destitute and poor as they had been 20 years prior, sometimes literally worse off due to the extreme neglect caused by the dysfunction of ANC leadership.

And thus many of these young black people felt that they needed to have a cause to imitate their parents' efforts in the causing of the downfall of Apartheid. And the Rhodes statue became a focal point. Many of them could not understand the complex nature of the country and how it came to be, and it's much easier to look back at the consequences of Apartheid which had hard clearly defined consequences, VS the subtle and uncomprehending hobbling effect the corruption and theft that the ANC government had caused.

Thus despite the protest starting from the point of just one man - Cecil Rhodes - the thundering on the internet and IRL soon became race based, from the low black portion of students at UCT, to the immediate suspension of Chumani Maxwele, the Black population of UCT and RSA were unconsolable, and would not reason with the UCT Management.

Some black activists tried to use this movement for benevolent goals - like increasing the amount of Tertiary education available for RSA blacks, and improving upon the education standards for blacks nationally overall. As well as highlighting the unintentional historic institutional racism which blacks faced at universities like UCT. But their voices were drowned out out by the loudest of fools and bloodthirst against whites.

Empty cans make the most noise.


VIOLENT PROTESTS:

https://www.news24.com/News24/Rhodes-Must-Fall-campaign-gains-momentum-at-UCT-20150323

From March 2015 to 2016, the protests would go and off for a fricking yea long. I'm not joking. Just like COVID, a lot of students had to take leaves till the violence and disruption calmed down, or had referrals to retake examinations and projects a year later. I was one of them. Oh and your expensive Cape Town accomodation isn't refunded that's your problem. Imagine me causing a year worth of staying in Residence, costing my parents like a worthless NEET, and not having learned anything for a full fricking year.

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/rhodes-statue-students-occupy-offices-1835276#.VSEO86g0WSo

In the way that South Africans strike, especially black south africans - namely the famous toitoi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyi-toyi

Basically large disruptions got caused by students and other external agitators inflaming black peeps, into occupying UCT administration buildings, and disrupting lecture halls. Imagine trying to write your exam and people come barging in - knocking out your prof before he/she can ask WTF is going on, and tearing up your exam paper 2 hours, in front of your eyes. Sounds bad right? Well it happened numerous numerous fricking times. The Rhodes Must Fall rioters/protestors would go fricking ballistic and their rioting would spread all around Cape Town, and including into Lower Campuses.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740621460173.webp

https://www.news24.com/News24/parliamentary-committee-condemns-uct-violence-20160218

Oh and due to the fricktitude of our government, when private UCT security guards would be forced to manhandle the belligerent violent protestors who were defacing other statues, destroying offices, or even setting buildings on fricking fire, then our glorious government would condemn UCT for using violence! Not the rioters, but fricking UCT for defending its property! Can you imagine that?

The above article is from 2016, a full 11 months after the initial 2015 March protests began it was truly apocalyptic. Protestors, students and outside actors would sleep in gyms and examination halls, it was truly a year long nightmare.

Now I don't mean it was literally every single day, but the protestors would come and destabilize the Upper Campus every 2 weeks to a month average. Sometimes if you believed things were just about going normal, then shit would hit the fan. It was for many an impossibility to function normally. And you could basically just write a feeble doctor's letter to ask for exam or project or thesis referrals for next year for being too stressed due to the protests and rioting. So if you had shit grades or were failing this was a mercy restart for the lazy fricks


UCT MANAGEMENT CAPITULATES:

With the protests came the now infamous in RSA universities phrase: decolonization. Every fricking thing needed to be decolonized. And even now 8 years later, proctors and liberal students still talk about decolonization. The main focal point of decolonization was of course the removal of the Rhodes Statue.

On 12 March 2015, an open air dialogue took place on the stairs of Jammie Plaza, the focal point of the UCT Upper Campus, to discuss the statue, with points from all sides being heard. The following week, a march to the UCT administrative building, Bremner, took place, demanding a date for the removal of the statue. On 20 March 2015, students stormed the Bremner building, which houses the UCT offices during a speech addressing the removal of the statue by UCT vice-chancellor Max Price. On 22 March, it was reported that the students were still occupying the building and that members of the public were supplying them with food. The protesters "renamed" the building Azania House

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UCT's senate voted in favour of the removal of the statue on 27 March 2015

https://www.news24.com/News24/UCT-Senate-in-favour-of-statues-removal-20150328

To further try and placate the now turning violent protestors, the UCT Management boarded up the statue while they waited for a final Council decision, and while they waited for construction vehicles to be contracted for the removal process.

https://www.bbc.com/news/education-32116166

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740610005965.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1687274061196518.webp


https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-04-09-its-official-rhodeswillfall/#.VkjqE64rL-Z

A more neutral Daily Maverick article captures the arrogance and belligerence

===========(from article; it's a good article)

The fate of the statue of Cecil John Rhodes on the University of Cape Town’s campus has been sealed. Following a tumultuous evening meeting of the UCT council, Rhodes’ statue will be removed on Thursday. The unanimous decision of the council marks the culmination of almost a month of student protests – including students occupying the council meeting. REBECCA DAVIS was there.

ll Rhodes lead to the colonisation of the mind”, read a banner brandished by students gathered to hear the decision of the UCT council on Wednesday evening. Others carried newspaper placards anticipating “The Inevitable Fall of Rhodes”. The group of students numbered only a few dozen, but they were vocal and passionate. Toyi-toying and singing, they waited to hear the decision of the council. It was not expected to take long.

The gathering of the UCT council was an emergency meeting convened to vote on the future of the controversial Rhodes statue. In advance, its outcome was a foregone conclusion: statements from UCT vice chancellor Max Price had already indicated that the statue was as good as gone.

Weeks of protest began with a group of students led by Chumani Maxwele dousing the statue in excrement in early March, saying that its continued presence on the university’s campus was testament to the institution’s failure to meaningfully transform.

Days of public dialogues and panel discussions followed, together with an occupation of the university’s Bremner admin building spearheaded by students under the “Rhodes Must Fall” campaign. With Bremner renamed “Azania House”, the building has been functioning as a home base for protesters, who have been sleeping there.

Caught up in their midst was an American tourist, who had been passing the venue randomly and stopped to rubberneck. “Do black people hate white people in this country?” he had earnestly asked journ*lists a little earlier. Now he trotted up the stairs with the protesting group.

Members of council looked bemused but stoic when the protesters entered. “Down with white supremacy!” the students chanted. They moved on to a cry of “One settler, one bullet,” complete with machine-gun sound effects. The American tourist stood at the back with his camera held high, recording.

============(end)

As you can see there was an almost lunatic fervor amongst the protestors, and they behaved with a spiteful meanness. When the UCT Management asked them to disperse, and that they were going to fricking do the thing which they asked for, the protestors refused to leave the premises, and went full r-slur mode.

============(again from Daily Maverick article)

he SRC’s Mahapa again told the students that it was agreed that the statue would be removed, and the council simply needed time to “conclude on other business”.

The students refused to leave.

“No decision about us should be made in our absence!” one cried. Another said: “This meeting has not been legitimate until we stepped in. Where are the black women?”

Council head Njongonkulu Ndungane – the former Archbishop of Cape Town – tried to persuade the students to leave. “As you came into this door, the council was about to vote on a motion,” he protested.

“Vote! Vote!” they cried.

A number of council members rose and attempted to leave, but students blocked their path. “If we let them go, we will never see them again!” one warned. With so many people in a small airless room, it became very hot. Some of the students commiserated with council members about the heat. Other students began to dance on the tables at which the council members were seated.

While the students’ insistence on disrupting a meeting at which they had been told their desired outcome would be forthcoming might seem irrational, it was clear that they were genuinely concerned that if they left the room without a concrete resolution, something might go wrong. They spoke of having been lied to before. They said the university’s stated timeframes on transformation were unacceptable.

The protesters were grudgingly persuaded of the merits of leaving the council for ten minutes so that the members could conclude their vote. “Please make the right decision, Father,” one student appealed to Archbishop Ndungane, squeezing his hand as he left.

After a great deal longer than 10 minutes, the verdict came back: the vote was concluded, unanimously in favour of the statue’s removal. “We won!” a student yelled. “Amandla!” Council members hurried down the stairs to leave.

Journ*lists pointed out that the scenes in the occupation of the UCT council chamber had not exactly been redolent with warmth. (No shit :marseymayo::marseymayo::marseymayo:)What about the ‘One settler, one bullet’ chant, we asked.

“The voice of protest must never be allowed to die down,” Ndungane replied. While the occupation of the chamber had revealed “deep anger”, ultimately students had agreed to leave.

Price termed the events “unfortunate”, but said that their peaceful resolution was “a victory for law and order and proper governance”.

Mahapa stressed, however, that from the perspective of the SRC the removal of Rhodes’ statue was only the first step. “The issue at hand is transformation,” he said.

Because authorities fear the statue may be destroyed, time is ticking to see it taken away for safekeeping. The Upper Campus of UCT is a provincial heritage site, so technically the university may not permanently remove any statue without permission. On this occasion, they have applied for a certificate of “emergency removal”. At 5pm on Thursday, Rhodes will be taken off campus to a storeroom that the university has hired to temporarily house him until a permanent home is decided on by Heritage Western Cape.

=============(end of very good good article)


ONE SETTLER ONE BULLET CHANTS:

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/opinion/rhodes-must-fall-bremner-occupiers-have-crossed-th

Max Price was the Vice-Chancellor at this time, and he was a god amongst men. He held his own against the media, the protestors and the black politicians like Malema inflaming the masses towards violence and upheaval. He diplomatically held firm like an invincible wall against all of the bullshit and never allowed UCT to be intimidated. Trust me, this guy showed incredible leadership in this absurd time.

He condemned the occupation and intimidation tactics of the protestors who forced themselves into the Bremmer admin building, to force council members to vote in favor of the Statue's removal, as well as the use of inflammatory language like "One Settler one Bullet" chants.

He wanted to create structured dialogue in this mess, and wanted to perform the removal through a legal system, and not through the intimidation or force.

The fricking student council that year was packed by ANC and EFF wingcucks, and thus they used their few admin powers to constantly harass Max Price the entire year, yet he fended them off each time diplomatically. It was incredible to see dramatards. These protestors and student council members verbally abused Max and the UCT Management every step of the way, and every step of the way, the UCT Management came off diplomatically, and with dignity. It was just simply absurd.

And the incredible bias in the black twitter and black mainstream social media never highlighted this cruel and bad behaviour of these black student council members. It was maddening.

Yet every time the indomitable Max Price just took the abuse on the chin like a Chad and refused to buckle.


Also random irrelevant drama. One of the black Student Council Members stated on their facebook they loved hitler :marseykkkblm: cuz Hitler was charismatic and depopulated people he didn't like.

http://witsvuvuzela.com/2015/04/27/src-president-says-i-love-hitler/

=======(from article lmoa)

“I have researched about president Adolf Hitler. I have read books about president Adolf Hitler. I have watched documentaries about president Adolf Hitler,” Dlamini told Wits Vuvuzela defending his knowledge of the former German dictator.

In the same comment thread, Dlamini wrote that every white person has “an element of Adolf Hitler”.

“I have had numerous encounters with white chaps. From primary till today I live with white chaps … As I said, they are not Hitler but there is an elements of him in all of them. I connected the dots,” Dlamini said.

Dlamini further defended his remarks and suggested that his love of Hitler had “nothing do to with white people”.

“I find it very absurd that people expect me to regard their enemies as my enemies,” Dlamini said. “The same way I love Robert Mugabe, it has nothing to do with white people.”

Dlamini told Wits Vuvuzela that “I will write what I like on my Facebook” and was not on the social media platform to “nurse Jewish people’s feelings”.

:chadblack2::chadblack2::chadblack2::chadblack2::chadblack2::marseykneel::marseykneel::marseykneel::vegetakneel::vegetakneel::vegetakneel:

=============(end of article)

To this day I have no idea what exactly the frick the guy was saying lol


RHODES-MUST-FALL MOVEMENT SPREADS TO OTHER SA UNIVERSITIES:

The start of the movement at the University of Cape Town resulted in the emergence of other r-slurred movements in other universities in South Africa. In Stellenbosch University, University of Pretoria, University of the Free State. All of these guys wanted to remove Afrikaans as an official language in which was taught. The movement now had spread as removing anything they considered colonialist, because they didn't have statues as icons to focus on.

https://www.news24.com/news24/video/southafrica/news/watch-crowd-supports-up-students-in-court-20160222

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740614969964.webp

https://www.news24.com/News24/tuks-campuses-closed-until-further-notice-20160219

https://www.news24.com/News24/protest-hit-university-of-pretoria-proposes-new-english-language-policy-20160222

These often violent protests would spread from UCT to other universities, to even the broader public, there was a lot of general discontent, and the people on the ground didn't know how to target that discontent.

https://ewn.co.za/2016/02/22/Tuks-Lectures-cancelled-as-protests-continue

Just loot at the article titles. This was in 2016, a full year after, demonstrating the vast momentum the RhodesMustFall movement generated onto the tertiary education sphere.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740615912676.webp

There was almost a fricking full blown race riot between afrikaner and black students at Pretoria University.


RHODES STATUE REMOVED:

And finally the removal of the Rhodes statue.

Look at 2;20 - they going batshit. Just 5 minutes. Shows the insanity of the protestors having an almost religious fervour which could not be reasoned with.

Before the removal crews can even get there, the statue is swamped by tards after the boarding is taken off, and paint and strangle the statue like it's a condemned medieval criminal lmoa.


RHODES SHADOW REMAINS LONG AFTER:

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-empty-plinth-and-painted-shadow-of-the-Rhodes-statue-C-Photographs-Anders-Bjoerkvall_fig2_348591508

Some chad troll :marseytroll::marseytroll::marseytroll:smartass decided to paint the shadow of the Rhodes statue onto the mason steps, next to the empty plinth where it had stood and been removed, exactly correct anatomically, and proportional as to how the shadow fell during the summer sun. Very clever and artistic

This deep ink or whatever was used, could simply not be removed by scrubbing, scraping or anything, and the shadow still remained there till 2019, when I had graduated lmoa. Only destruction of the 120 year old steps would permanently erase this shadow, and thus the protestors and UCT Management let it be.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/168727406251771.webp


STUDENTS BURN DOWN JAMMIE SHUTTLES

In November 2015, the protests were STILL ongoing randomly, and one peak point of danger was when several of the Jammie Shuttles were burned down by clowns. The Jammie Shuttles were private busses which transported UCT students between Upper, Middle, and Lower Campuses, so that student could freely and without payment travel between Lecture Halls and Residences - as long as they had their student cards with them (to prevent non-students and other freeloading vagabonds from using this student and staff exclusive system). Utube Video below explains "The ‘Jammie’, as it’s affectionately known in UCT circles, is a scheduled shuttle service that runs at regular intervals from 06:00 until 18:00, ensuring students and staff move between campuses easily. In this video, UCT’s Unathi Mxatule gives insight into how the shuttles operate."

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At this point in time the general Rhodes statue protests and riots had evolved from bitching about the statue, to complaining about the UCT fees, which were the most expensive in the country, amongst all of the universities. Many of the black protestors had failed, and their scholarships only covered each subject once. Meaning for every subject you fail, you must personally pay that the next time you retake it. Some black peeps still were too poor and couln.t cover their fees even with scholarships. Others had no scholarships. I had some sympathy for these guys, but many of the rioters were literal dropouts and demanded free education like euros. But RSA was way way way too poor to emulate the free education like Europe does.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16872740608072004.webp

https://www.news24.com/news24/uct-bus-burnt-out-near-residence-20151111

I was there. I personally touched these burned wrecks. I don't know how many burned. But i saw at least two at the Jammie Shuttle's storage area. It was there between my residence cafeteria and my lecture halls, and it stood there burnt out for a month before the police took it away. My guess is they were investigating or just lazy. No idea.

https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/threatening-the-safety-of-uct-students-jammie-shuttle-service-suspended-amid-protests-blockade-20230315

===========(from article - it tells the situation well)

When asked about the inconvenience the blockade had caused, a protester said: "We acknowledge that blockading the Jammies is inconveniencing students who we claim to represent. Those with fancy cars can still come to campus."

"We are asking students to be patient and to trust this process. This university cannot continue as normal," said the student. The university has moved some classes online. UCT spokesperson Elijah Moholola said the university was adopting a flexible approach where in certain instances, faculties and departments have the discretion to have lectures in person or online.

In a notice to students and parents on Tuesday, former acting vice-chancellor Sue Harrison said the university was trying to find a well-balanced solution that ensured future conflict about higher education funding could be resolved.

According to Harrison, tuition fees were the biggest source of income for UCT, followed by government subsidies. "UCT's student debt has increased by close to fourfold, as some fee payers have paid nothing at all. The cumulative historic student debt currently stands at more than R385 million.

Student leaders have criticised Harrison in recent weeks, following the presence of police on campus.

"I know the presence of law enforcement services on campus is a cause for concern for everybody. I assure you that they will only be present on UCT campus to respond to unlawful protests activities under the interdict," she said. Interim vice-chancellor, Professor Daya Reddy, issued a notice stating that engagement between the executive and the student representative council (SRC) was ongoing and that law enforcement officials would not be present on campus this week.

According to Warrant Officer Joseph Swartbooi, police were deployed on 13 March as a result of student unrest, and regular patrols were being conducted in the vicinity. "We can confirm that no arrests were executed," he said.

Student protesters present at the blockade have disputed that protesters were violent and caused damage to university property. Meanwhile, students have vowed to continue their demonstrations until the fee blocks are lifted.

===================(end of article)

Also on a tangent, the one officer quoted is called "Officer Joseph Swartbooi". SWARTBOOI lmoa. Translated to sound like blackboi. I have very juvenile humour :marseylaughwith:


Anyways, that's all i have, GOOD NIGHT! :marseybeanadorable:


Sorry for taking forever @hawgrancher

These I can only write when not working :marseycracka:

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I've tried to make an effortpost about this a couple times now but have never been able to because this woman is so insane that it's hard to find where to start.

/r/pickmes describes itself as "A community for women who like to suck up to men." 95% of the posts are from GimpGirl, a 39 year old Russian self-proclaimed pick-me, pro-ana BDSM "tradwife". She mainly posted videos of herself ranting about Tinder or other women, opening "gifts" for her man, her disastrous cooking, spam about s*x dolls and random news articles, tips on how to have a hot :marseytrain: Auschwitz survivor body like her, and her neurodivergent comics.

The few posts that aren't from GimpGirl fall under three categories:

People asking what the subreddit is about or calling GimpGirl mentally ill:

Is this some sort of a kink subreddit ?

This is pretty strange, and I'm not sure whether this is some sort of a pick me kink, a cult, or an art project.

Why?

Gimpgirl your not perfect at all

In fact your look like a fricking 90 year old s*x weirdo instead of a tradwife. You look like a fricking meth addict probably due to not eating a healthy diet and wtf is wrong with you telling other because they don't fit your fricked idea of perfect womanhood that they're not good? You have a lot of nerve posting your deflated looking tits and saying your the uber woman. You aren't perfect no one is but At least unlike you have natural looks and don't look like I eat meth for all 3 meals of the day.

People who are confused and think the subreddit is for making fun of pickmes:

Pornsick moids posting gross porn

We don’t frick pick me girls

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16870284877461479.webp

A romantic trip with hubby

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16870284893833718.webp

Anyway, the sub's been active for a bit over a year and GimpGirl's since been banned, her only online presence now seems to be her Youtube channel called GimpGirl and Doll, where she posts basically the same things she used to on her subreddit but in video form. Here's an example:

At the start of this video she says "this is not for you older women, because no matter what you do if you're 30+, well, you just have no chance, so just forget about it" despite being 37 at the time of filming. I would try and post some other highlights but I can't get through any of the videos because they're just so unbearably dull. She seems so weak and sickly and talks so slowly in her fugly Russian accent.

Miscellaneous highlights:

Futher reading:

(This post is massively underbaked and doesn't even go over half the crazy shit about her but at least I tried lol)

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Hello Dramanauts, :marseythumbsup:

I have for you today, a dossier. A package containing the assorted information required to understand and appreciate drama in niche topics that I enjoy. The subject of my post for you is: Armored Core 6

Recommended listening for this thread:


Introduction to the Drama :marseyexcitedexosuit:

For those unaware, Armored Core is an incredibly niche mecha action shooter from the wildly popular game developer FromSoftware. You play as a mercenary that pilots an Armored Core, a cutting edge mech and take on missions from corporations in the pursuit of massive profit. Warcrimes, 1 on 1 Duels, Giant Boss Fights, and more await. You may recognize FromSoftware as the company who created the massive Dark Souls franchise and its derivatives.

Armored Core's last release was over a decade ago, and the announcement of AC6 breathed new life into the once dead franchise. Old and new fans alike were hyped for the new game, but discontent was stirring. A strange lack of gameplay and the deliberate hiding of game mechanics created a sense of unease in the assorted fan discussion boards. The big question was about to get its answer... Is it SoulsLike?


Souls Like :marseycrusader2:

The veteran fans were affraid that their beloved franchise was going to be gentrified by the addition of mechanics commonly associated with the Dark Souls franchise. From the limited trailers and developer interviews, longtime fans tentatively hoped :marseycope: that the franchise would stay true to its roots. Previous games featured insanely clunky controls, manual aiming, massive customization, and debt. Lots of debt. Veterans feared :marseyclueless: that the identity of this game would be sacrificed in order to appeal to a much, much larger fanbase.

An example of veteran cope: :marseycope:

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14arn4y/ive_never_done_something_like_this_before_but/

So what exactly are the changes that the dinosaurs are complaining about? In short:

  • Hard Lock On/Turning Speed

  • Estus Flask Expy

  • Big Telegraphed Attacks

  • Simplified Customization

I'll give a brief desription of each point to give further context to the coming drama.

Hard Lock/Turning Speed :marsey3d:

In all entries prior to AC 6, turning speed is a key stat to design your mech around. This is no longer the case. A key gameplay skill was keeping your opponent in front of your robot. Now that the camera and mech automatically snap to your enemy, this major skill check is almost entirely removed from the core game loop.

Estus Flask :marseysipping:

Another core gameplay feature was that damage you take during missions is mostly permanent. You must attempt to complete a mission with the AP (health) that you start with. Certain games had minor ways to replenish health and ammo during a mission, but are exceedingly rare. This is no longer the case. A robot can heal at any point in the game, very similar to the Estus Flask from Dark Souls. Yet another major departure from the previous entries.

Big Telegraphed Attacks :marseyshooting:

Boss fights are common in the franchise, but the new way to approach them is substantially different now. Referring to the linked gameplay trailer, you can see the boss mech wind up its chainsaw arms and slam down at the player. This was not how bosses worked in the past, which is yet another SoulsLike addition to the game.

Simplified Customization :marseythebuilder:

This one is less important as the others in my opinion, but is still a point for veterans to cope and seethe about. It appears that the types of parts that you can customize your mech with has been reduced. The fewer categories make it slightly easier for new players to approach building a mech which understandably makes the longtime fans sneed.


Gatekeeping :marseyraging:

Naturally, the long standing fans are clashing with the new blood that the souls franchise brought in. There is shit flinging on all sides as new fans gloat about their soulslike influence while dinosaurs lament the casualization of their beloved mecha franchise. Some choice threads to spectate:

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14akgr3/in_defense_of_those_complaining/

PLEASE understand why us Armored Boomers are upset

https://archived.moe/m/thread/21797331

Thousands of replies from new and old fans absolutely malding, coping, seething, and just a tad of dilating :marseycopeseethedilate:

>Special Note: 1800 replies on a thread like this is absolutely incredible. /m/ is one of the slowest posting boards, so seeing that many replies in such a short window is quite the spectacle.

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14abjup/armored_core_was_always_supposed_to_be_like_this/

These were never meant for YOU

Colonization :marseyconquistador:

At this point, the old fans have been almost completely outnumbered by new fans of the franchise. As unfortunate as this is for oldies, the result was inevitable. Just for some context as to the size disparity of the Armored Core and Souls franchises, the best selling AC game is Armored Core 2 at a respectable 790,000 copies sold. Compare that to Elden Ring's 17 million copies. That many copies? In how many years? :marseywrongthonk:

https://screenrant.com/best-selling-fromsoftware-games-ranked/#sekiro-shadows-die-twice---5-million

Screen 🤢 Rant 🤮 I know but proves the point

The economics of the situation guaranteed that Armored Core would get with the times and become the Armored Souls and Mechiro that the fans so dearly wanted. Now that the takeover is basically complete, we get the typical threads you'd expect.

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14at5pk/why_are_people_in_this_community_so_threatened_by/

We MUST protect the honor of small indie dev! Just buy the game!

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14aovhi/what_vaatividya_did_for_armored_core_was_a/

I will deepthroat the entire shaft of muh heckin favorite Dark Souls YouTuber!!!!!

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14ac1bj/at_this_point_there_are_more_people_complaining/

Total Oldfan Death has been achieved

What NEXT? :marseyitsover:

It seems that the bickering is losing steam, and the Armored Core subreddit is entering a state of equilibrium. Topical memes are being posted again and the general hype for the new entry is returning. The old guard have been thoroughly defeated, coming to terms that their favorite mecha game is permanently changing.

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14art59/august_25_is_almost_here_3/

GOTY would be incredible, but mecha is still repulsive to western audiences

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14ak2c0/we_get_to_fight_drug_addicted_space_hippies_with/

Completely accurate assessment

https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/14a94gx/i_was_bored/

Newfans doing a victory lap on the oldfans

At this point, we can only wait until August and see how the game is first hand.


My Take on the Matter :marseywereback:

Armored Core is going the way of souls. Is this a good change? Or the total destruction of a niche beloved franchise?

Truthfully, I think the changes are good. I believe that we old fans have extreme rose colored glasses for the ancient and archaic control scheme of the PS2 era games. Note that those games did not even use twin sticks despite being on the console for several years.

The games are going to be fun and my extreme hopium :marseyhope: is that the mecha genre in the west gains much more widespread approval.


What do you think?

These changes have sparked a wave of discussion. Do you think the changes are great? Or are you coping about your favorite robot game getting gentrified?

Most importantly, Are you going to play Armored Core 6?

Thank you for reading, more dossiers to come :marseysunglasseson:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/16869342946198082.webp

Vanguard News Network or VNN is a mayo supremacist website made by Alex Linder. Linder is a former member of the neo-chud group the National Alliance. The main thing that sets this chud group apart from other chud groups is that they hate Christianity, their reasoning being:

>Jesus was a Jew therefore Christianity BAD

Naturally this means every member of VNN has a chip on their shoulder about Christianity :chadjesus:, but their real passion is being angry, angry about Jews:chadjew:

A little bit moar about Linder:

On May 26, 2007, Linder organized what has been described as a "racially charged protest" linked to the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom murder case in Knoxville, Tennessee, that attracted 30 supporters, around 60 counterprotesters, and 300 law enforcement officers. Linder fought with police and was the only person arrested.[5][6] He was charged with disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, vandalism, and assault on a police officer. He was placed on six months probation and ordered to pay restitution to the police officer whom he assaulted.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16869342946976683.webp

This is the person calling you a cuck online.

VNN's main page is just articles written by Linder about the things he's angry about. And by things I mean Jews.

One fellow said, about a year ago, “everything bad that’s going on today is about Trump.” Yes. The censorship of social media, the Covid lockdowns, the Covid “vaccine” mandates, Jan. 6 — it was all about weakening support for Trumpism (i.e., right-wing populism), which scares the crap out of the Jews. It’s true. In fact, Jews lie awake in bed at night saying over and over, “we can’t allow Trump to be president again!” “We can’t allow Trump to be president again!” One Jew even said that, more or less, on TV. The Jews are obsessed with Trump. Not just Trump, but him and his 100 million gun-owning, White followers who are “secret anti-Semites” (many are, because they’re smart and well-read). Just listen to the hysterical language of the Jews about Twitter right now: references to Hitler, fascism, Nazi Germany, etc., etc.

But the real bread and butter of VNN is


The Forums

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16869342949461734.webp

Hooboy, yours truly has got his work cut out for him.

A whole 'lot of these are just self-righteous :marseylongpost: that aren't too fun to read, not even in a 'look at this r-slur' kind of way. So what I'll do is go through the more interesting threads and provide a link and maybe a quote.


Jews Are Behind the Campaign to Legalize Marijuana

It's an interesting story that few people know, and it begins with George Soros.

Off to a great start.


It Isn't the Chinese . . . it's the Jews, Stupid :marseychingchong:

It wasn't the Chinese who tried to steal my law practice - it was a jew.

It isn't the Chinese who fill my email inbox with pornographic spam - it is jews.

It isn't the Chinese who send all those viruses to me over the Internet - it is jews.

The whole thread is just seetheing over mayos getting caught breaking the law and blaming the Jews for it :marseyxd:


Pizzagate, Paedophiles and the Jews

Some of these phrases in the Wikileaks-released emails include: playing dominoes on pizza; playing dominoes on pasta; having to use three month old pasta; having 460 beany babies, bundles of joy that the owner would like to sell all at once, etc. Many serious internet investigators insist that these are code words that libertarians use online and to each other. If they are not code words, what in the wide world of sports are they? Have you ever played dominoes on pasta, or pizza?’

"serious internet investigators" :marseyemojirofl:


Enjoy the cucks

There are 2 families up here that adopted animals. Christians....... They say proudly that they home school, but the little animals were kicked out of the schools for stealing, fighting and biting the other children. They're California transplants and I took pleasure in seeing that both of their homes are now for sale. I know for a fact they were not prepared for winter here, and most of the neighbors, despite their incessant whining about christian charity would not help them. One of the wives came knocking here when they ran out of firewood, and wanted a few cords of my nice seasoned wood. As it was -30 outside I knew they must be freezing their asses off, so I asked how she would fit all that wood in a Subaru. " Well, you have a truck" she said............. She got the good 'ole Brooklyn style GET THE FRICK OUTTA HERE! I got the joy of all those liberal tears freezing on her pinched ferret like face that make me smile even now....

Most sane poster on VNN.


"Woke" advertizing and Mega Corporations

This thread is dedicated to all the "woke" advertizing out there. As soon as we see it we need to stop giving these NWO, communist trash loving Mega Corporations our money!!!

Rightoids seethe over brown and gay people in commercials.


Rothschild loans to the Holy See

The first Jesuits were of jewish descent . .

Christsisters.... The joos have taken over the Vatican! :marseypearlclutch:


Email I sent schooling a Christtard

"I already did after you did that video stupidly saying 95% of those who criticize Christianity are Jews. Which obviously revealed your true intentions. You seem to be to be either a disinformation agent or a useful idiot working on behalf of the Catholic Church to sway people back into the (((matrix))). You’re an insecure pseudo-tough guy who has to do entire videos when someone leaves a comment you don’t like. I elevated your channel and gave you more views and attention than you deserved, but then you of course backstab people like most of you (((Christians))) (servants of the Jews by the way) do when faced with criticism you can’t handle. Perhaps go read Revilo P Oliver’s Origins of Christianity or even Ben Klassen’s Nature’s Eternal Religion and you’ll realize how your (((narrative))) has more holes than Swiss cheese. How the Jew Saul of Tarsus plagiarized it from Zoroastrianism and Mithraism as a method of control to break national barriers. How that foreign desert religion forcefully spread over Europe to bury the gods of my ancestors and would burn those who dared to criticize it. How it’s a feminine and universalistic slave creed as destructive as (((communism))), and of course how the programming is all based on emotions without any factual basis to begin with. You aren’t fooling anyone (((David Joseph))). Keep pushing your disinformation videos that get no views and frick off."

:marseyfedoratip:


Of Aryan Bondage

Bondage is not significant in itself, but in its functioning as one of myriad sidetrackings that can distract the goy from sober, reasoned, productive work into self-indulgent squalor. Bondage is bad for Whites, therefore bondage is "good for jews." Therefore bondage -- or miscegenation or promiscuity or homosexuality -- is promoted legally and culturally by jews.

If you're tying up for kicks, you're not competing with Joshua for that law-school slot. You're not researching the amount we give to Israel each day, nor the staggering amount of crime committed against Whites by jew-loosed blacks.

>While you were having a kinky s*x life, I studied the Jew :marseyweeb:


Jews control the World - Undeniable proof

They put cancer cells inside vaccines and give cancer to children. They are monsters. They do every conceivable evil imaginable and more!. Think about that, unimaginable abject, almost omnipotent power. For at least two and half thousand years. They were in Alexandria, Rome, doing exactly the same thing Monsters like this can't be reasoned with. There's no political solutions. We must rise to this. It can't go on unchecked.


Even prior to ‘Jojo Rabbit,’ Jews have long played Nazis onscreen

Yet there seems to be a general consensus: Making fun of the slaughtering and suffering of Jews is never OK. But making fun of Nazis? That, my friends, has been a favorite pastime for nationals of so many Allied countries — including, of course, Jews.

Grrr, why is it ok to make fun of genocidal totalitarians and not their victims!?!?!?! :chudtantrum:

Colonel Klink and Sergeant Schultz on Hogan’s Heroes were both :chadjew:

:marseypearlclutch:


The public image of the jew

What I personally believe about the "Holocaust"™-narrative . .

It is a projection . . That's right , a projection . .

It is a rarely mentioned fact of history that jewish Bolsheviks murdered about 60 million Aryan Russians during Soviet times . .

I'll never not be amused by mayos trying to one-up the Holocaust :marseylaugh:


Jewish avengers unapologetic for targeting Nazis after WWII

While there were some isolated acts of Jews harming individual Nazis after the war, the group, codenamed Nakam, Hebrew for vengeance, sought a more comprehensive form of punishment.

"We didn't understand why it shouldn't be paid back," said Harmatz, who was nicknamed Julek, and lost most of his family in the Holocaust.

So the group set out with a simple mission.

"Kill Germans," Harmatz said flatly.

How many?

"As many as possible," he quickly replied.

:#chadjew:


A Putin victory enables the Ethno State

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686934296475466.webp


Tucker Carlson ousted at Fox News due to jewish pressure

:chudtantrum:


White House Hosts Degenerate Decay

If Putin is a 'real christian' as he claims then why doesn't he just unleash all the nukes Russia has on this satanic vermin in the West?. Russians go to heaven and ZOG goes to heck. If I were devout christian and believed in an afterlife and was in his position I'd do it in a second.

This Serbian fella' is not playing with a full deck.

I got curious enough about this guy and looked at his other posts, and all of them were just sucking Putin peepee. Literally post after post of regurgitating RT and Daily Stormer articles every day, every hour.


Elon Musk

But UNDERSTAND, that PLAYING VICTIM ABOUT ITS OWN CRIMES, is HALF of the JEW RACKET!

Everybody KNOWS that a crime is commited, so how does the jew keep you from blaming it on itself.

Remember that time, that liberals "HATE" the "Republicans",

but THE REPUBLICANS ARE WORKING FOR THE LIBERALS the whole time!

Elon musk is working for the liberals.

joe rogan, has been working for the liberals for 30 years.

I freaking love how rightoids use cap locks :marseylaughwith:


Jews are happy that it was a jew who brought Prince Harry and part-black Meghan Markle together

Jewish newspapers have bragged about how it was a jewess who brought Prince Harry and the gold-digging, attention-whoring, non-white piece of garbage Meghan Markle together

:chudtantrum:


Anti White Billboard Ads

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16869342966081138.webp

Another thread of seethe about seeing black guys in ads :marseylaugh:


'High Castle' producers destroyed every swastika used on the show and the video is oh-so satisfying

Thread made to seethe at swastikas getting destroyed quickly devolves into :marseywords: after OP is called a bot.


Interracial Movie Database

Goddang, rightoids are neurodivergent.


New Ku Klux Klan group on Vangaurd

The Vanguardcels aren't too happy about the Klan showing up, not because it's the fricking KKK, but because they're Christian.

I'm a Folk-Pagan, but if anyone is truly White, Pro-White and an upstanding person, I don't care who they are or what religion. You shouldn't antagonize people just for that reason.

" just for that reason."

You have got to be just as big a c*nt as the christian jew on a stick lovers or ignorant.

A just reason to give them shit is the fact that most of them know frick all about their so called religion.

How can a person of sound mind worship some c*nt that burns innocent children to death.Drowns almost every living thing on Mother Earth including new born babies and babies in the womb and tells men to stone their sons to death if they are a pain in the arse and act like teenagers.

His last party trick when he comes back will be to slaughter everyone again.

Some people are fricked in the head mate.

The most fricked in the head are called christians.

I would advise so called christians to find out more about what they profess to believe in.

YOU FRICKING R-SLURS

And then there's this guy :marseyxd:

I think the Klan is not evil. They are white supremacists but maybe positive ones. Maybe they believe in white mans burden? That white man is responsible also for the well being of other races even blacks. I think rightous blacks who believe in Jesus like black churches are under the protection and authority of the Klan. I think the Klan rules america, but Im sure they are against race mixing. But they dont hate rightous blacks.



:redlight: Possible Discovery Of New Rightoid Drama/Seethe Websites :redlight:

The mayo supremacists, in their need to neurodivergentally catalog everything, have compiled a list of different rightoid websites and forums:

The Patriot Portal of Pro-White Websites

Forums List

:#marseysoypoint2:



And that's it for now. I can't stand going through the VNN threads anymore. :marseydead: Literally every gosh darn thread and post is just walls of text saying the same blasted thing over and over:

>It's the Jews Jews Jeeews!:chudtantrum:

Hey @Aevann I think I'm on a watchlist now. :marseyscared: Can I get a pin as compensation?

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EFFORTPOST Gender activists pressure a journal to remove a heckin bad faith research paper that claims gender dysphoria might be socially contiguous :marseytranspearlclutch:

TLDR :#marseywoah:

An article was published to a medical journal suggesting that there may be a link between the rapid explosion of gender dysphoria and social factors, especially for young girls. Gender activists seethe and call for the resignation of the editor of the journal and retraction of the article. The activists get told they can't remove the article becuase they're mad it disagrees with them. Activists seethe and pressure the journal to remove the paper based on a technicality


Background Infomation

Littman walked so Chuds could run

Before we talk about the current paper being published we have to discuss how this whole event was set up, and that starts with Lisa Littman


https://files.catbox.moe/xkz50u.jpg


Real chuds already know that Littman is a medical doctor that specializes in studying gender dysphoria and specifically those who detransition. She was even the individual that created the term "rapid onset gender dysphoria”. Littmans major controversy was when she published an article to PLos One titled "Rapid-onset gender dysphoria in adolescents and young adults: A study of parental reports". The study surveyed parents of kids who had transitioned and seemed to hypothesize that there could be social contagion, especially among young females, that contribute to gender dysphoria.

While the study itself had several prominent weakness, it was an interesting report that had potential to be expanded on. But backlash from Gender activists led to Littman's university to retracting support for her:


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Along with the journal being republished with several corrections to make sure its readers know that the article is VERY limited in it's scope and is a weak study.

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Surely, journal publishers would always be this scrutinizing when deciding which research papers to publish.

:m#arseyclueless:

But nonetheless that brings us up to date so we can discuss the similar issue that occured just recently but this time in [CURRENT YEAR]


The Controversy :marseype#arlclutch:

Current Year Problems

The controversy began in Late March of this year when an article titled "Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases" was published to the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior of Springer Nature by Suzanne Diaz and Michael Bailey.

The study explored the same ideas in the Littman study by to a greater extent. The original Littman paper surveyed 256 parents while Diaz and Baileys study surveyed 1655 parents. The paper was able to corroborate several of the findings in the original Littman Paper:

This data bolstered Littman’s findings about the onset of gender dysphoria after puberty, predominantly in girls, in conjunction with preexisting mental-health conditions, heavy social-media usage, and peer influence. They also corroborated Littman’s 2018 finding that an overwhelming majority (90 percent) of concerned parents are politically progressive, undermining the common narrative that criticisms and concerns about gender affirmation originate in conservatism.

:mars#eythinkorino:

As mentioned before, The Bailey and Diaz paper seeked to expand on Littmans original findings. And thats what they did:

Females are more than twice as likely to pursue social transition. However, among those who experienced gender dysphoria for at least one year, males were more likely to undergo hormonal interventions. Moreover, a majority of parents reported feeling coerced by gender specialists to affirm their child’s new identity and endorse his or her transition. Parents who facilitated their child’s social transition reported that the child’s mental health “deteriorated considerably after social transition,” and that their relationship with their child suffered.

The purpose of the paper was to provide evidence against the currently accepted approach of "gender affirmation" suggesting that "hey, maybe we should slow down and actually find more research before experimenting on the young kiddos". Obviously no one should have a problem with this.

:marseyclu#eless:


REEEEEEEEEE THIS IS A PROBLEM

One day passes after the article is published, and Bailey and Diaz recieve a list of questions from the executive committee of the International Academy of S*x Research (IASR) about their Institutional Review Board (IRB) ethics-approval process and with the journal raising “significant concerns about the ethical conduct and integrity of the editorial process” .

For those unaware IRB boards are committees that review research studies to ensure that they comply with applicable regulations, meet ethical standards, follow institutional policies, and protect research participants. Basically they make sure you have consent from patients before you go probing their bussys in the name of science.

Keep this all in mind, because we're going to touch on this point again.

Bad Faith

News of the Baileys and Diaz article begins to circulate and a group of hundred plus scientists (on the right side of history) draft a lengthy open letter to Springer Nature and the IASR. The letter was seething about how Diaz and Baileys study was heckin bad faith and could hurt the homo community:

The publication also raises concerns over scientific integrity. Despite mentioning longstanding academic critiques of research around “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” it does not seriously engage with these critiques nor integrate insights drawn from those critiques into the study methodology, replicating the severe methodological and interpretive flaws of previous research

Publishing work on LGBTQ+ issues that does not meet the highest standards of academic and ethical rigor has caused a severe deterioration of the reputation of Archives of Sexual Behavior within LGBTQ+ research. By granting scientific legitimacy to articles that do not meet the highest standards of academic and ethical integrity, Archives of Sexual Behavior is not only undermining trust in science but also playing a distorting role in ongoing legislative and judicial debates over gender-affirming care in many countries including the United States. These actions impugn the respective reputations of Springer and IASR as a publisher and sponsoring organization.

NOOOOOOOO, If people don't trust the science we can't continue doing what we want to do

:#marseysoycry:

The aforementioned letter additionally demanded for the resignation of Springer Natures editor, Kenneth Zucker, and demanded for his replacement to be a person who understands the importance and has integrity on LGBTQ issues. The scientists threatened to withhold submissions to their journal if the journal didn't give into their pleas.

The severity of our scientific and ethical concerns calls for replacing Dr Kenneth Zucker as editor of Archives of Sexual Behavior. Until an editor who has a demonstrated record of integrity on LGBTQ+ matters and especially trans issues replaces Dr Zucker as editor, we will no longer submit to the journal, act as peer reviewers, or serve in an editorial capacity. We encourage our peers to do the same. If the situation is not remedied in a timely manner, we will consider terminating any involvement with the IASR and with members of Archives of Sexual Behavior’s editorial board.

While this letter makes the scientific community look like a bunch of cucks there was a counter protest to the letter that recieved over 2000 signatures telling the soycucks to shut up:

That same day, FAIR in Medicine, a nonpartisan professional network that advocates “the highest ethical standards in medical practice,” sponsored a counter-letter. This document underscored their support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker and called for an “academically robust and unbiased editorial process” at ASB and the “uninterrupted publication” of Diaz and Bailey’s study. Rather than capitulating to activists’ “censorious demands," FAIR in Medicine urged for an “open debate about the paper.” The counter-letter garnered over 2,000 signatures

Nice!

:#marseyclapping::!#chudsey:


We're So Back! :#marseywereback:

Now back Diaz and Bailey.

It was stated earlier that Bailey and Diaz conducted their research with survey response answers from willing volunteers, but even in this case, anything that involves collecting data from study participants requires consent per IRB policy before research ever begins and the IRB can't retrospectively approve already collected data. But due to Diaz not being associated with the University he was able to circumvent these polices and just have Bailey be a coauthor on the paper.

For Nature and Springer their policy on IRB approval porcess states:

a study has not been granted ethics committee approval prior to commencing. . . . The decision on whether to proceed to peer review in such cases is at the Editor’s discretion.

Hence, you can underatand why the scientists before were calling for the resignation of Spingers current editor. But it appeared that the activists attempts to remove the article were futile and that Diaz and Bailey wouldn't have their article retracted


It's over :#marseyitsover:

After a continuous pressure campaign from homo activists, Diaz and Bailey recieve an email from Springer telling them to get fricked and that they should have gotten EXPLICIT consent beforehand and that they have no choice but to remove the paper:

The participants of the survey have not provided written informed consent to participate in scholarly research or to have their responses published in a peer reviewed article. Additionally, they have not provided consent to publish to have their data included in this article.

At this point it's clear that the activists couldn't get the article removed on the basis of heckin wrong think but rather on this technicality.

Bailey and Diaz were going to have their article removed no matter what but they were provided an option to prepare a statement that disagreed or agreed with the decision that would be included with the retraction:

Bailey raised three major objections to Springer’s decision to retract the paper. First, he contested the grounds for retraction as an ever-changing “moving target.” Initially, Springer’s concern hinged on a potential ethics violation arising from the absence of IRB approval brought to its attention by activists. When this challenge proved to be without merit, the focus abruptly shifted to concerns about the informed consent of the study’s participants.

Second was Springer’s assertion that the study’s participants did not provide “written consent to participate in scholarly research or to have their responses published in a peer reviewed article.” As Bailey explained, the parents who took part in the survey were enthusiastic about contributing data related to ROGD, given the scarcity of information on this novel presentation of gender dysphoria. The introduction of the survey, taken by all participating parents, mentions the dearth of data on the topic and the need for parents to “seek out this information on our own” to “help us gain a better understanding” of this new phenomenon. Upon completion of the survey, parents were informed that their “answers will help us gain a better understanding of which children are more vulnerable to Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria and what we can do to help them better.” The data, parents were told, would be made public online once a sufficiently large sample size was achieved.

And finally, the funniest point was Bailey pointed out that Springer’s "consent policy" wasn't even applied consistently:

Bailey pointed out Springer’s inconsistent application of their putative consent policy. He cited “a slew of ‘scholarly publications’ [by Springer] based on survey research in which the respondents did not provide explicit permission for ‘scholarly research’ use—and often apparently did not provide consent for any research purpose at all.” Examples included at least six publications using data from a health survey conducted by the American College Health Association that “included intensely personal questions relating [to] substance use, sexual behaviors, and other highly sensitive topics.”

:#marseyxd:


It's never been more over :#marseydeadinside2:


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Link to tweet

Tragically, even with Baileys argument, Springer went ahead and retracted the article on the basis of Bailey and Diaz not receiving proper consent. But they did thank Bailey for making them aware of the other articles that didn't recieve proper consent and now they're being investigated was well (lmao)

While it does seem like a common L for the chuds, Bailey and Diaz are planning on submitting their manuscript to another journal that's (hopefuly) less ideologically driven.

In conclusion, never stop trusting the science and Thank you for reading!

:#marseywave:


Additional Readings

[Anatomy of a Scientific Scandal](https://www.city-journal.org/article/anatomy-of-a-scientific-scandal

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EFFORTPOST [EXPLANATION/DRAMAPOST] Aboriginalposting- the rechuddening

Thought now was the time to make a big burger-friendly Voice post. Here you will find definitions, previous drama, current drama, who is based and who is locked- it's all here! Drama will be signposted if you want to skip the boring bits

DEFINITIONS

Boonga- a slur for Blak.

Blak- woke for Aboriginal.

Voice/Voice to Parliament- the main dramatic event here. Sometime this year (most likely October 14), there will be a referendum needing a double majority over whether to amend the Australian constitution over a) whether or not to mention boongas in the constitution and b) whether to give Blak folx a seperate Voice, which will be elected kind of but not really directly by everyone who says they're Aboriginal and can show some descent. To give you an idea about how loose that is, I have more of a claim to be Aboriginal than 1/4 to 1/3 of the likely voters for the Voice and my skin looks like this.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16869254495513315.webp

Anyway, the idea is that this Voice is meant to give advice about Aboriginal policy to departments and to Parliament, who have the full right to ignore it if it's stupid.

Double Majority- does not mean 2/3 of voters. Instead it means a national majority & 4/6+ of states votes going in favour.

NEWSPOSTING

Don't want to get your opinions from a drunk Aussie neurodivergent? Fine, here's some recent news links-

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-yes-campaign-is-calm-amid-the-inevitable-messy-phase-but-it-still-has-divisions-20230615-p5dgs0.html

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/a-tipping-point-support-for-voice-falls-below-a-majority-20230612-p5dfto.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australias-top-companies-back-indigenous-voice-public-support-wavers-2023-06-16/ (This one is especially interesting as it details the massive corpo support for the Voice)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-14/yes23-under-scrutiny-over-indigenous-voice-campaign-tactics/102475822

You know how annoying it is to copy an ABC link from the app? You have to open it in a web browser first for some reason then copy it

Anyway,

PAST DRAMA

Luckily, I have made many posts about this before, so I can just link them here-

https://rdrama.net/post/174001/effortpost-meet-australias-aboriginal-seethe-queen

https://rdrama.net/post/176042/65-updoots-419-comments-australias-indigenous

https://rdrama.net/post/178915/multidrama-raustralianpolitics-has-been-especially-dramatic

CURRENT DRAMA

The idea that this voice may be cooked is not sitting well with many people. Let's dive in.

https://old.reddit.com/r/AustralianPolitics/comments/14aspkx/voice_to_parliament_yes_campaign_calm_amid/

Strangely, this was more chuddy than previous posts (hence the title), so we can revel in some nooticing-

Calm? The fact that Langton, a key part of the Yes campaign can say this calmly is telling;

“People who are opposing (the voice referendum) are saying we are destroying the fabric of their sacred Constitution. Yes, that’s right, that’s exactly what we’re doing,”

“Our Constitution is racist … it was designed as a racist Constitution. The slogan was ‘Australia for the white man’.”

:platyaboriginal:

I think the yes campaign is still in general awareness mode, rather than full campaign mode.

This thing doesn’t get serious till after the footy seasons finish.

:marseycope: also another commenter pointed out that this left them two weeks of campaigning to get rid of the chuds

Phase? It's been a shitshow from the beginning. Who knew calling anybody who votes no a racist, wasn't the best way forward? Who knew not giving the public clear reasons why this is so important and even clearer reasons to what this is going to achieve, was a terrible idea? Not Labor, apparently. Phase, lol.

This somehow ends up with a calm discussion about the monarchy.

https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/148p4rt/yes23_campaign_under_pressure_as_final_vote/

The drama here is that /r/Australia is aggressively incessantly progressive, and then turning against the voice is pretty much game over for the Voice.

The Yes campaign has already guaranteed support from major national institutions, including all of the major sporting codes, Wesfarmers, Woolworths, Coles and several of the big banks.

Ah yes, Banks, Colesworths and Wes-flation those trusted establishments actively robbing the population blind at the moment. That'll win you the vote.

:marseynoooticer:

There are concerns within the government caucus the Yes23 campaign has not ramped up quickly enough, allowing the No campaign a foothold in the debate.

Gosh, a political debate where more than one side gets a foothold? We couldn't have that.

:marseynoooticer:

Anyway, hope you're having a wonderful night/morning, and hope you enjoyed this post!

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HOW TO FIND ✨ACTIVE✨ NICHE FORUMS AND RARE DRAMA

1. go to boardreader.com

2. type something into the search box

2a. either put in a current drama like "bud light" or "target pride" (sorry, even AI auto detects that TQ+ drama is most dramatic thing on the internet these days :marseysad: ) or something like "tipping"

2b. You can also try ur hand with just "flamewar" or any random slur, insult, or dramatic phrase like "STOP LYING ABOUT ME" --get creative!

found with the query "stop lying about me"

:marseynoyouzoom:

https://i.postimg.cc/05ndMtV7/image.png

https://debatepolitics.com/threads/w-102-riley-gaines-assaulted-by-trans-activists-at-san-francisco-state-university.508075/page-4

3. use the cool search options

boardreader is good for finding current drama bc it's default setting is things within 3 months. There's an option for sorting by freshness instead of relevance and you can search by threads instead of posts to find even more stuff

https://i.postimg.cc/4xymLPbk/image.png

boardreader.com indexes an AMAZING amount of stuff, not only does it know about dozens and dozens of specific hardware, auto, photography, cycling, investment, hiking, (YOU NAME IT!) forums it's got up to date index of lipstick alley, narialand, kiwifarms (when they're clearnet lol), small active forums no one's heard of, resetera, even fricking stormfront & similar sites (the blurbs of EVERY result from them are always :marseyrightoidschizo: <- but if every text was "JEWS!" rotfl )

My favorite thing about board reader is that it finds ACTIVE forums, bc I always hate looking for niche forums and noticing "oh, the last active thread was in 2017, everything since then is just spam :marseysad2: "


a few sites I found today in BR results:

This one gets a special mention because it's huge and because

:siren: THE FOLLOWING FORUM IS DRAMATIC AF :siren:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/index.php

I didn't even know city-data.com had a forum :marseyshock:

they're active af... with chuddy headlines, they seem to be obsessed with dramatic type stuff :marseyworried:

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and they have FREQUENT flamewars and meltdowns but if I summarized even one of them this post would be too long and I would have spent six hours trying to figure it out and then I would quit posting on rdrama bc i would have been assimilated by then :marseybackingintobush: jk

It's most flamin' flamewars seem to be the religious ones


Some assorted forums:

https://scambaitingforum.com/ - a small but active forum for scambaiting :marseybreadcrumbing::!marseypajeetitsover:

https://i.postimg.cc/0QbnjXTY/image.png

https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/ - Chris Hanson fanclub? They cyberstalk predators and enjoy watching predator catching content?

https://i.postimg.cc/mgfYRgZy/image.png

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/ -- athiests and... terfs?

https://i.postimg.cc/Dw3BTW0z/image.png

https://www.shroomery.org/ - shrooms. They get into arguments sometimes.

https://i.postimg.cc/XNgmrqDx/image.png

https://www.pprune.org/trending.php - Professional Pilots Rumour Network (sounds cooler than it is, the UFO threads I saw were boring :marseyyawn: )

https://i.postimg.cc/prP6TJBR/image.png

https://www.theapricity.com/ - phrenology forum (founded by a furry brony?? 🤨) full of people who say words like "methinks" and "no trolling allowed or ELSE. This is a serious forum, not for lowbrow jokes."

https://i.postimg.cc/8k7Lx0gG/image.png

figuring out what was going on with "the aprecity" :disturbing: took a lot out of me so no more screencaps


https://boards.cruisecritic.com/ - catty people talk cruises

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forums - a few dozen bland leftists talking to eachother every day. The only interesting thing I can say about them, is sometimes use lolcat speak for some reason when discussing kittehs. Maybe we should too. :marseyamericanpearlclutch: I CAN HAZ CHEEZBURGER? I'd think it was ironic, but what if they never stopped?

https://www.disboards.com/ - :marseydisney: :!marseyworried: there's... thousands of them... they call themselves "DISers". They have meetups. They REALLY like disney. Getting Juggalo vibes but I don't know why. :marseyveryworried:

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/ - world's largest collection of freerange schizos.

https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php - doomsday doomers dooming. They also write and critique each other's short form fiction, because you can't talk about the end of the world all the time :marseyshrug: Head janny is online and it says he joined in 1997 :marseysunglassesoff:

https://forum.lowyat.net/ - large Malaysian forum, mostly in English

https://sigforum.com/ - active firearms, has a cool [ENTER] page with epic :epicfacefeatures: themed graphics which more websites should have. That's the only reason I'm mentioning it XD they're super active tho

https://www.lipstickalley.com/ - yall should already know this one, it's gossipy women :marseysleep:

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/index.php - u should know this one too, they have had some of the flame wars of all time which have been posted here

https://gossip-rocks-too.proboards.com/ - gossipy women forum but 20 people and new

https://freerepublic.com/tag/*/index - ancient rightoid forum with NO css. Ok, maybe I exaggerated: body { background-color: white }. That's all their css. Honestly, kino, I love how uncluttered it is. Agressive CSS was a mistake. so don't click on my profile:marseycry: Oh yeah, this site has a bunch of rightoid boomers in all the replies.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php - Susans's Place - Transgender Resources - "We Stand at the Crossroads of Gender, Balanced on the Sharp Edge of a Knife" :wolfsfear:

https://www.thecoli.com/ - :chadblack2:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/ - ppl (mostly women) trying to find missing people and eternal discussion of Madeleine McCann & serial killers

https://wildequinesv3.proboards.com/ - incredibly neurodivergent "wild horse" roleplay forum :marseyworried: the edgelord black horses with glowing red markings and grimdark backstories is amusing though. They're networked with warrior cats rp forums and all that kinda stuff. Bleh. :marseysleep:

https://heirapparent.boards.net/ - a far more serious RP forum. Amazing aesthetics tbh. Sometimes I forget this kind of thing still exists. I'm not gonna look at it any deeper than surface level tho :marseytwerking: edit: it's AMAB ppl halfway cybering eachother with pictures of sexy women and taking it into DMs :marseyaware: ok no more rp forums

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forum.php - they're still going :marseyshook: there was a lot of crying back when "The Daily Paul" forums shut down, so I guess the community moved to here? :marseyhappening:

https://shaggysasquatch.proboards.com/ - active, but very new forum (less than a month old?!) where 3-4 people talk about bigfoot. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!

https://scoobyaddicts.proboards.com/ - scooby do fans. Now you know who has "that" mystery machine back tattoo from that meme. They do RP. Sometimes wear scooby fursuits. Well, that one guy does anyway. Maybe he'll cause a cryptid sighting one day, resulting in a shaggysasquatch/scoobyaddicts crossover event. They have reviews of Velma (2023).

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/forums/list.page - moms (and dads🙄) in the urban DC area. They like to talk about European vacations, chronic fatigue, if being rich is worth ur husband, how to deal with ur husband's affairs, and rant about ppl that don't respect trans rights enough. :marseyagreestill: Yes.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/forums/list.page - nannys & housekeepers in the urban DC area (peasant containment zone)


I'm running out of steam bc I will NEVER stop finding new forums using board reader. It's been hours and now I'm sifting through [groomercord -> free forum] type forums and I don't want to list every roblox & (clean) rp forum that started on groomercord. There's a never ending stream of sports forums and those hardware forums that also discuss politics for some reason.

If anyone has anything cool to add (more forums, information on weird forums) pls share :taypray:

If there's interest I'll start a ping group for this sort of thing, but I don't know what it should be called :marseythinkorino:

!effortposters

@Cdace, the effortpost has arrived

EDIT:

:siren: NEW PING GROUP :siren: for posting (non reddit) forums:

!forumposters

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  • Galatian : I enjoyed it motherlover ^

On today’s episode of Good Mythical Morning, Rhett & Link dig deep into their flavor memories and try to identify the name brand sodas from a line up of four unlabeled glasses, three of which contain grocery store knockoffs. As true, unbiased YouTube scientists — and using what they learned in a previous episode — they made sure that the sodas all came from the same size and type of container. Though this isn’t the first time they’ve tried to find the name brand drink, this is the first soda exclusive episode. So, are the name brand sodas really worth it? Here’s what they found out.


Diet Coke

Decoys: Big K, Signature Select, & Sam’s

Rhett is a Coke Zero man, so this round proved to be a bit difficult for him. He liked the Signature Select knockoff’s flavor, so he assumed that it was Diet Coke. Now, if you were hoping that Link might be a reliable taster today, I’m sorry to disappoint. After sipping all of the options, he said, “They are all so different and none of them are good, and I’ll drink Diet Coke as a treat but I don’t really like it.” I’m sorry, what?! Despite his self-proclaimed love-hate relationship with Diet Coke, he was confident with his guess. It was, of course, wrong. You’ll get ‘em next time, Link!

Rhett’s Guess: Signature Select

Link’s Guess: Sam’s


Sprite

Decoys: Great Value, Signature Select, & Big K

Great Value was definitely the prettiest of the four drink options. The guys admired the big, glassy bubbles. But…it was all a lie! They found it seriously lacking in fizz when they tried it. Next up was Signature Select’s knockoff. While Link liked it — and let the record show that he liked all of them — Rhett found it “too sweet.” The real contest was between the last two: Sprite and Big K. Big K’s lemon-lime had “less bite, but good flavor,” so Link gave it the “flavor award.” Sprite, on the other hand, got the “bite award.” The guys were surprised by the amount of bite it had and didn’t remember Sprite tasting that way, so they guessed Kroger. However, they both claimed that bite was more important than flavor, so they liked the Sprite more. They just didn’t quite believe that Sprite could be that good. If only they’d tried McDonald’s Sprite…

Rhett’s Guess: Kroger

Link’s Guess: Kroger


Dr. Pepper

Decoys: Big K, Signature Select, & Great Value

Link doesn’t like a whole lot of things. That includes Dr Pepper. Link, however, made it clear that he was confident in this round because his wife loves Dr Pepper. His proposed technique? “I’m gonna see if I can taste my wife’s breath.” “Can you hit the undo button?” Rhett asked (on behalf of literally everyone everywhere). While this round should’ve been easy for Rhett, he struggled a bit initially. “None of them taste like Dr Pepper. I think I’ve been drinking so much Diet Dr Pepper,” he admitted. But there were some hints that led the guys to guess correctly. Big K’s Dr K tasted “grapey.” Signature Select’s Dr Dynamite and Great Value’s Dr Thunder were too “candylike.” Dr Pepper, however, was the only one that didn’t taste “too fruity.” It’s safe to say that Dr K, Dr Dynamite, and Dr Thunder were trying way too hard. You just can’t beat the original.

Rhett’s Guess: Dr Pepper

Link’s Guess: Dr Pepper


Canada Dry Ginger Ale

Decoys: 365, Big K, & Great Value

Rhett & Link only drink ginger ale on airplanes. Relatable. So, for the sake of fairness, Rhett said, “I feel like we should get as high as we possibly can.” Of course, they’re talking about altitude here. That stuff can really dampen the taste buds. So, after climbing on top of a sofa — although I don’t think that’s necessary considering Rhett is 6’7” — they started drinking. And getting high was indeed the right move. They easily identified the Canada Dry Ginger Ale. Not only that, but it was their favorite by a long shot. “It’s the best one, it’s fizzier,” Link said. Though they were all pretty good, Rhett actively disliked Big K’s.

Rhett’s Guess: Canada Dry Ginger Ale

Link’s Guess: Canada Dry Ginger Ale


Barq's Root Beer

Decoys: Signature Select, 365, Great Value

In this round, the guys were yet again at a disadvantage. Rhett said, “I like root beer but I don’t think I’ve had enough of it.” Link, in very Linklike fashion, admitted he dislikes root beer because it tastes too much “like medicine.” He said that he drinks Topo Chico every night. “It has no flavor. And I look forward to it. Every time I pull one out of the fridge, I just get a little boost of happiness and I’m like, ‘Gather around family and smell my breath! Nothing to smell! Hello!?’ It’s great. It’s nothing but bite. It’s like drinking bite. None of this medicine. If I want medicine, I’ll go to the doctor, I won’t go to the grocery store.” Still, he seemed hooked on the creaminess of 365’s root beer. Does Link like root beer now? In my imaginary world, yes. Rhett dug deep into his childhood memories, “got inside that silver can,” and guessed Barq’s correctly.

Rhett’s Guess: Barq’s

Link’s Guess: 365


Final score:

Rhett: 3

Link: 2

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EFFORTPOST Can a single man convince r/HobbyDrama migrants to join rdrama? The answer may surprise you :marseyitsoverwereback:

So, /r/hobbydrama is going private indefinitely or something and a lot of people in their community are upset. In yesterday's thread I (and many other users) had the ingenious idea of inviting some of them to this place. In case you are unaware, most of the best posters on this site (if not all of them) are previous /r/HobbyDrama long posters. There's @dont_log_me_out, @ticktocktrain, @loli_esports, me, @kaamrev, and perhaps the most known being @PlsNope. Also, if I had to guess I'd say that at least half of this site regularly reads /r/Hobbydrama's weekly scruffle post which usually contains a bunch of short threads dedicated to certain topics. These stem from niche drama in Otaku culture to discussing whether Abby Shapiro's or Milana Vayntrub's breasts are larger. In both cases, the answer and all arguments are meaningless hevel that stems from those discussions being a nothingburger deluxe but you haven't really lived until you have discussed recent patch changes in Final Fantasy or something and how you're totally going to quit this time.

Hence, it was finally my time to reach out to our distant yet so close brothers and sisters and lead them to the promised golden land of rdrama's effortposters. I tried at least a couple of different approaches and thanks to my unconstrained autism I have somehow managed to at least get them to check out this site. Unfortunately for me (and for this site) the drama community already has a very negative reputation even amongst the longposting neurodivergents of /r/HobbyDrama which made this entire endeavour a lot more strenuous than expected, but see for yourself:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555573025618.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555574152734.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686855557473363.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555575427935.webp

At this point the discussion swapped to different online places they can migrate to. One of these is called lemmy which is a link aggregator for the fediverse. You shouldn't really know what this means unless you spend your free time posting questionable young anime girls but lemmy (like all online discussion platforms) has some issues too. In fact, they quickly dropped the idea after seeing this:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555575919492.webp

Consequently, rdrama seems like a much better place, r-right? So I got many of them to check out the site ... BUT there was a post calling /r/hobbydrama users neurodivergent on the frontpage that you can not miss and all hope was immediately lost :marseyitsover::

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555576535864.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555578231776.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686855557862621.webp

Also, they literally got filtered by one of the rules (Absolutely NO anti-CCP sentiment):

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555579466934.webp

:marseybaitretard:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686855558138707.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686855558222047.webp

@jesus got his own shoutout :marseyxd::

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555582921522.webp

In maybe my favorite screenshot two of them are confused by mundane rdrama lingo:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555583374684.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686855558494748.webp

And to end this discussion, someone told a totally true story about reading hobbydrama at a conveyer belt sushi bar only to get harassed by a troublesome /r/4chan user:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555586084862.webp


Nevertheless, I don't think we are that different from them. Their weird obsession with the Danish belle @\PlsNope is very similar to ours. Apparently, she was a regular among their weekly scruffle threads and she has (rightfully) gained a couple of followers due to her Chris Hansen post that were shocked at her quick assimilation into the dramaverse. Does this mean she was an undercover agent the entire time or that drama users aren't a hardcore gatekeeping cvlt as we keep to say? Who knows really, it's funny either way:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555566014886.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686855556661074.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555571291726.webp


Anyway, I don't think all hope is lost as some of them have retained the ability to see how good the underlying framework of this site is claiming they could steal the framework and make it their own.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868555586909556.webp

>literally it's hilarious that its both the best and worst site I've seen yet

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686855558815168.webp


So in summary I have failed to achieve something although the fundaments for a blossoming friendship between /r/hobbydrama migrants and /r/drama rejects are definitely within tangible reach.

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EFFORTPOST Auberginegate - The Phillip Schofield Drama Continues

Sorry for the lack of updates. I know each and every one of you have waiting for the next episode of the saga. It consumes your every thought. It's the first thing you think of when you wake up. Let's get to it!

Recap: Phillip Schofield was a presenter on British television. He had spent his whole life in media, and most notably hosted This Morning with HOLLY WILLOUGHBY.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686806634989957.webp

Phillip Schofield came out as gay a few years ago, and he left behind his wife of several decades and his two daughters. Brave! Recently, Schofield admitted he had an inappropriate relationship with a young man on ITV. He had also gotten this man a job. Though Schofield insists that the sexual stuff only happened when the boy was of age, there is evidence that they knew each other since he was 10. This has given rise to rumors that even if it was legal, there was some grooming involved.

LATEST EVENTS

1. AUBERGINEGATE

Lets begin with Auberginegate. Journ*lists hounded the head of ITV for comments on the Schofield saga which has gripped the world. The response? "Do you like Aubergine?" For Yankees, aubergine is eggplant AKA the PEEPEE EMOJI. What did he mean by this? Is it code for something? Trolling? Who the frick knows!

The response got the attention of British parliament.

2. WHAT DID THE HEADS OF ITV KNOW?

The heads of ITV were grilled by MPs in parliament. This is an event that will dictate the future of our species. It will affect Holly Willoughby's career!

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During the meeting, ITV chief executive Dame Carolyn McCall told MPs the affair was "deeply inappropriate", but that she had not had evidence until recently. ITV director of television Kevin Lygo told the MPs: "He looked me in the eye and promised me that there was absolutely no truth whatsoever in this, in the rumours of this relationship."

>Dame Carolyn added: "We asked multiple times of both individuals, both formally and informally. Because we had no evidence, no-one brought us anything tangible, either on the production floor or from the outside... there was only hearsay and rumour and speculation."

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>"We want to be confident that ITV is not letting star power and favouritism damage the lives and careers of people working there - and, more importantly than that, we want to be confident that when mistakes have been made, ITV will be making changes rather than making jokes about aubergines."

>That was a reference to a recent remark made by This Morning editor Martin Frizell when he was asked by a Sky News reporter whether his programme had a toxic workplace. "I'll tell you what's toxic and I've always found it toxic. Aubergine," he replied.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-65889240

3. HOLLY WILLOUGHBY SURVIVES SCHOFIELD DRAMA

Holly has returned to her rightful throne as the queen of daytime British television. Unemployed brits on benefits, stay-at-home mums, and folks waiting in dentist offices can once again rest assured that Holly Willoughby will be on that screen goddammit.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686806642853539.webp

While she has returned, it is just not the same. Without Pip beside her, there aren't as many cute giggles from her. She has had a few co-hosts, but it seems Dermon is destined to be Phillip's replacement.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16868066459362872.webp

Will schofield off himself? Will ITV survive this scandal? What the frick was the aubergine comment about? What about Holly?! Stay tuned for more updates. Please like, share, and subscribe, and don't forget to hit that bell icon to be alerted as soon as a new video drops. Patreon and link for merch in the comments below. Peace.

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Don't even need to sort by controversial, even all the top comments have zounds of :marseypearlclutch::marseypearlclutch::marseypearlclutch::marseyakshually::marseyakshually::marseyakshually:

As of this post: 8300 upmarseys - 79% upmarseyd (in a sub where getting less than 95% is is working for it), and 17000! comments :marsoyhype::marsoyhype::marsoyhype::soyjakanimeglasses::soyjakanimeglasses::soyjakanimeglasses::marseysoyseethe::marseysoyseethe::marseysoyseethe:


1 - Eurotrash are becoming FAT :marseychonker2::marseychonkerfoid:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny9ki9/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457805358748.webp

"Y’all Parisians got chubbiness on you. Not hating cause I like a little thiccy thicc chick, but surprised because of the shade they throw around about fat Americans."

Dear god redditards are :marseyyikes:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686645780678896.webp


2 - Eurotrash smoke like steam engines :marseyjoint::marseygarfieldpipe::smoke::marseydoomer::marseypipe:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny6gy2/

Eurotrash like giving their kids cancer

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no u

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Eurotrash as always are blind to their own societal vaults, unless an American leftwing talkshow host can smugly point it out to them

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457812060688.webp

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny8b51/


3 - Europeans are allergic to drinking tapwater, because they may accidentally drink their ancient ancestors ashes from the subterranean water pipes running through the underground sewers :marseysipping:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jnyawnj/


4 - Euros are cheapskates who need to charge tourists for using public bathrooms to break even in their annual budgets :marseyitsoverhappy::marseymuslimitsover::marseyitsoverhappy::marseymuslimitsover:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny4kv8/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457814277637.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457816952078.webp

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny73id/


5 - Eurotrash are too cheap for Icecubes

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny9bbk/

I have no idea if this is true, but I'm going to pretend redditors are reliable narrators if it means i get to keep pooping on Europeans.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686645781897559.webp

eurotrash like their beer and wine warm as piss :marseycalvin:


6 - Football vs Soccor naming arrogance :marseyraging::marseyraging::marseyraging::marseyraging::marseyraging::marseyraging::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::marseyrage::pepereeeeee::pepereeeeee::pepereeeeee::pepereeeeee::pepereeeeee::pepereeeeee::ragejak::ragejak::ragejak::ragejak::ragejak::ragejak::ragejak::ragejak::ragejak::ragejak:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny3ukn/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457820286098.webp

https://www.businessinsider.com/football-vs-soccer-map-2013-12

In southern Africa we call it soccer, above the equator is where basically everyone got colonized by the French, so they call it futbalz

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Eurotrash cant even admit they become irrationally angry at a word like infantile children


7 - Eurotrash has the most toxic Football hooliganism on the planet.

"The fact that Europeans have to segregate home and away fans in stadiums with hordes of security and in some cases fencing should be embarrassing. When I was younger I thought it was cool but I’m now in my mid 30s and it’s ridiculous that adult fans of opposing teams can’t be trusted to sit together."

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457826351008.webp

South Africans strike all the time, for very good reasons like they pay not keeping up with national inflation, to very stupid superfluous reasons like taxis burning down free Public Busses to miner towns, because they don't want to compete

But an absurd european cultural artifact is football hooliganism. It's not that africans or americans have never rioted or striked or made amok when their teams lost, or Soccor mommies and daddies didn't get into fistfights because their 5 year old got "unfairly" treated by the ref in the super serial child sport match, BUT euros take their lowest denominator inter-club rivalries to the absolute extreme.

Burning cities, tipping cars, assaulting women and children wearing different teams' sweaters. It's genuinely some of the most barbaric shit I've seen on TV, and I've personally seen the aftermath of a public necklacing before. If it was a once off event, it wouldn't be fair to categorize europeans like this, but football hooliganism riots happen so fricking frequently, multiple riots per fricking year good god.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457828955002.webp


8 - Eurotrash apparently like flies in their soup and drinks

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jnyesla/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457830750077.webp

When I first heard the rumour that one major difference between europe and africa was that european homes didn't have screendoors to keep away insects, I though it was just a bullshit urban legend, but I know for a fact after family visited the Vanilla Icecrean continent, that it's been corroborated. Some euros do have screendoors, but they are the exception, and are outnumbered by their african peers by factors of dozens to hundreds.

Some african front doors may not have screen doors, but virtually every single lower-middle class and up certainly have backyard screen doors, ESPECIALLY in the rural regions, where the large city populations haven't bugsprayed the local insect populations out of existence.


9 - Eurotrash are Europoors :marseybeggar:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny9ijp/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686645783323633.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457834643497.webp

everybody hates frogs

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457835455253.webp


10 - And lastly the finale - Europeans don't like hearing that dwindling youth middleclass subsidizing their geriatric population is unsustainable :boomermonster::marseybib:

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jny9y0x/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457836877127.webp

Very tough revolutionary picks in

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1482cyu/americans_what_is_something_us_europeans_arent/jnylri4/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866457839509907.webp


Holy shit the fricking jannies mopped it

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16866670664830098.webp

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  • X : good morning i am saving face here :marlion:

Greetings Spelunkystrags! :marseyminer:

A week ago I was listening to Audiobooks regarding the Thai Cave rescue incident in which Rick Stanton and other British and international subterranean cave diving specialists struggled through intense 18 days of drama to excavate 12 thai schoolboys and their teacher, whom had got stuck inside the deep and complex Tham Luang cave passages after an abnormally early flash flood prior to the monsoon season. The moronic drama involving these British cave divers, and the absolute incompetence of the Thai Navy Seals and government was legendary.

Although you won't really find many articles regarding the Thai Navy Seals' incompetence or moronic performance in many liberal articles, or even from the divers in public to maintain good relations, the behind the scenes biographies from these British divers, shed some very very unflattering details regarding the Thai Seal's stupidity. You see the Thai Navy Seals were the main Thai organization responsible for the Thai part of the rescue operation, and although these were skilled and talented men and military arms in their own right, with plenty of rescue operation experience all along the Thai coast, their capacity and performance in the Underground submerged caverns, meant they were out of their depth and completely inexperienced with regards to the rescue of people from underground water, something the Thai Navy had had absolute zero experience from up until the 2018 incident.

The reason for the Thai Seal's r-sluration and dogshit performance was a notion which I as an African had seldom experienced before, since there are basically non-existent asians on the continent - it was the South-East Asian notion of Saving Face.

https://www.teachingnomad.com/blog/china/what-does-saving-face-mean/

To westerners being embarrassed or feeling humiliated in diplomacy tier events is of course nothing new - but Asians take this feeling to the absolute extreme. They are so fricking fearful of losing the respect of others, that our SEA peers from across the Indian Ocean can have some totally batshit and hilarious behaviours. Even something as simple as the feeling that you got the worst part of a trade deal, even for something as inconsiquential as buying daily food in an open market! This feeling of inferiority and humiliation can be so intense that it can be culturally required to extend great effort to "Save Face" and regain your honour and respect among your peers, it's unbelievable.

Now the way this manifested amongst the Thai Seals and the international Cave Divers, especially the very top experts from Britain like Rick Standton - was the resolute refusal to take the advice from the Brits, despite their experience in the calamity. The Thai seals were so absurdly proud, and felt humiliated they were reliant upon foreigners and could mount the rescue operation on their own, it was absurd. They literally sabotaged themselves.

When western Euros and and Bongland, and Burgerland, and other majority white nations extend help to one another, there is very little humiliation in asking for the help of foreigners, and deferring to the expertise of specialists, be it in disaster situations or economic management. Mayos love licking boots, so deferring to other's experience isn't some primal sedoku-suicide inducing blight on your pride - often in fact if a Mayo acted out of their expertise they can get publically flogged afterwards if word gets out and they did a really bad job in some natural disaster calamity, outside their skillset.

EXAMPLES: the Brits and international Cave Divers were ready to dive day 1, but couldn't get permission to enter the cave or waters until 3 days later. It took 10 days since day 0 of the incident to convince the authorities and Seals that leaving the Thai schoolboys inside the caves until the end of the Monsoon season would leave the trapped boys to their doom, as monsoon rain would funnel the waters to their sanctuary.

The Thai Seals nearly drowned themselves in the 1st two days, despite one of the 1st Brits their warning them about Subterranian dangers such as being blinded by the sediment and sand being disturbed from the floors, and not being able to determine direction and balance underwater. The Thai Seal dipshits would also ignore British warning to take reels with them, similar to a string into the Minotaur's labyrinth. It took until day 3 for the fricks to take that piece of advice seriously.

The Thai Seals did not corridor off the 1st chamber before the sump into underground water, to keep civilians out of the caves like the British advised, and many volunteers would help with hoses and generators in the 1st few days to try and pump out water out of Tham Luang cave before everyone realized the majority of the water seeped porously through the mountain walls. In the 1st week the british cave divers rescued 4 men who almost drowned as the monsoon rains pushed water into the 1st and 2nd chamber! This was never even fricking reported!

The Thai Seals would do other stupid shit like when they transported oxygen cylinders to concurrent cave chambers and sumps, like Mount Everest Intermediary camps, and bring fricking empty ones with them. When the Britished asked the Thai Seals to aid in bringing further cylinders, once they had finally taken charge, the Thai Seals would bring oxygen cylinders with them into, but with the fricking wrong valves, or valves that malfunctioned!

The final must suicidal r-sluration of the Thai Seals was that when they, after the British divers had finally found the boys, mapped the chambers, and laid directional reels towards them, had fricking went towards the boys cave - without enough oxygen. As in they only took one cylinder bottle each, when they were transporting food and clothes and blankets and shit, and basically made an unintetional one way trip to the Schoolboy's dry chamber :marseybeanannoyed:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-06/rescue-worker-helping-thai-boys-in-cave-dies/9949622

The final moment which basically convinced the Thai Seals to take the British Cave divers seriously was when one of their own - against ALLLL of the suggestions and protocol advised from the Brits and international cave divers there, finally died from a minor mistake in the caves. He went late at night, alone and without the suggested paired partner, in a trip to deliver oxygen tanks to one of the intermediary sump chambers, and not do the check to see if his current tank was full or not - and thus died from lack of air midway between 2 of the intermediary chambers.


It was from this clownshow in the audiobooks I listened to that I also was inspired by the cave-diver Rick Stanton's misadventures in Mexico, to Looongpost last week.

I was also inspired by the Thai Cave rescue to write about save related dramatic incidents today, specifically SA related. Right sorry for that massive kaamrev-tier neurodivergent tangent, back to the Cango Caves!


THE CANGO CAVES:

https://www.south-africa-info.co.za/country/article/784/history-of-the-cango-caves-oudtshoorn-attractions

The Cango Caves are located in the town of Oudtshoorn, in the Western Cape Province of South Africa. They are one of the most attractive and visited tourist locations in the entire South Africa. They go 4km deep!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686582364449552.webp

They also have Khoi-San paintings in their shallow levels, and have been used since pre-historic times, and the earliest stone ages of man.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823641959429.webp

https://www.alamy.com/san-rock-art-of-an-elephant-in-cango-caves-oudtshoorn-western-cape-province-south-africa-image342823775.html

Unfortunately most of these painting have been badly damaged and eroded - 1st by time and elements, but also by vandals and tourists over the years. Point is they are substandard Khoi-San cave paintings to be found in Southern Africa, compared to places like the Cederberg in the Western Cape https://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/3-spots-to-see-rock-paintings-in-south-africa-this-heritage-month-0f9a3a12-3392-43d3-85d1-9217e442351d

The true reason to see the Cango Caves are the spectacular underground caverns, and majestic stalagmites and stalagtites. Unfortunately, even a great many of these have been broken and stolen by vandalous tourists over the last 3 decades.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823646442327.webp

There were even concerts held in the largest main chambers of the Cango Caves till 1991, but was stopped by conservationists because the sounds destabilized many of the precious formations and stalagmites. Truth is neither black or white authority have taken cave of these precious caves very well :marseybeanpensive:


1st EXPLORERS OF THE CANGO CAVES:

About 500 years ago was the last evidence of Khoi-San habitation in the Cango Caves, for whatever reason, the massive groups which inhabited and found safety in these caves, decided to just one day GTFO and disappear. Archeologists theorize that despite the fantastic seclusion and safety the Cango Caves offered, the region became much dryer than usual 500 years ago, causing food scarcity for the Oudshoorn region. Additionally the tribe/tribes inhabiting the Cango Caves overused the region's food sources, forcing them to go on a nomadic tour away further West and South to find habitable regions.

Point is for about 500 years nobody, even the Hottentots (who are ethically different from the Khoi-san and came later to Western SA from Namibia) who lived in the Western Cape even knew about it. Additionally the Hottentots were pastural nomads with their cattle, and didn't subsist solely from hunting like the Khoi-San who seldom build huts. The Hottentots preferred to build huts and Corrals for their cattle, and weren't as dependent as the Khoi-san for refuge from random caves, thus they never really explored the mountainous regions like the Khoi-san, cuz they didn't have need for caverns as havens.

The Cango caves were then rediscovered some time around 1780 by a local farmer named Jacobus Van Zyl. The chamber he first was lowered down into was found to be as long as a football field, and is named Van Zyl Hall since. He would so so with nothing but candles and paraffin lamps, he would not for example be able to see from one end to the other of this colossal chamber, and the entrance without a staircase is a near 10meter drop, in which you also cannot see the bottom from the ledge before being lowered with a rope - these early cave explorers were batshit insane.

Later, further exploration was done and a second chamber discovered in 1792. The caves soon became a popular place to visit. By the 1790s, the caves were already legendary by the locals, and any people passing by would go look at see them.

https://books.google.co.za/books?id=ck4MAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA72&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686582364916129.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686582365044347.webp


THE 2 TYPES OF TOURS:

Because of the continual damage which tourists from as early as the 1800s made in the Cango caves, by cutting off and stealing stalagmites and stalagtites as souvinirs, the Governor of the Cape at the time, Lord Charles Somerset, published the first Caves Regulation in 1820 which was designed to protect the environmental resource of the caves.

There are 3 big main chambers called Cango One, Cango Two, and Cango three, but there are many many more deep caverns and tunnels that extend way beyond Cango three, and many still being unexplored to this very day, because they are perilous with tight squeezes and sumps into waters. The 1st guide was a dude called Johnnie van Wassenaar, who worked there for 43 years from 1891, and had basically defined the main tour for most people in chambers 1, 2 & 3 - which contained the easiest and safest route to see basically all of the natural wonder the caves offered, without the need of exertion.

I mention this because the 3 main chambers are there to enjoy for normal people to just walk and gawk at the limestone and stalagmites, and is the main money maker route for tourists, as it requires nothing more than the clothes on your back. But beyond the main 3 Cango Chambers, there is also the very famous caving route, which requires a relative deal of exertion.

https://www.cango-caves.co.za/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823651720743.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686582365577786.webp

Tours are conducted at regular intervals on most days—there is a "Standard Tour" which takes an hour and an "Adventure Tour" which takes an hour and a half. The "Adventure Tour" consists of crawling through narrow passages and climbing up steep rock formations guided by small lights. This adventure tour involves a minimally presumed level of fitness and ability to crawl on your stomach, and isn't intended with old and weak people, but neither is it especially difficult for the average teenager or adult in good health. The smallest passage that tourists will have to pass through on the Adventure Tour is just under 15 cm to exit. And this small passage, my fellow dramatards, is where our nuclear shitstorm drama begins.!


THE MAILBOX/LETTERBOX:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686582365945741.webp

The Adventure tour basically involves a trip further underground, and this involves crawling, scooting on your butt, squeezing between narrow corridors sideways, and most infamously, crawling on your stomach below a narrow passage infamously named as the Letterbox, because your have to worm/crawl your way through like a letter through the Mailbox. Before entering, guides warn tourists of the neccesary exertion required, and most significantly in the modern Cango Caves, you have to prove you can squeeze through 3 lifesized mimics of the tightest passages:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823661773896.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823661342807.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823660863194.webp

That is, these lifesized mimics only existed AFTER 2007. I think you clever dramastrags can see where this is going :marseyclueless: :marseyaware:

Pic of squeezing through the Mailbox:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823662961016.webp


THE LARDASS: :marseychonkerfoid::marseychonkernoticeme:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823663314004.webp

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/big-woman-in-tight-passage-blocks-cave-309486

You will notice that none of the articles I post will go into further details about specifics about the woman who got stuck in the Cango Cave. Specifically her race :marseywrongthonk: Her identity was kept secret by the press, but the backstory quickly spread through the national grapevines that she was a black woman who had accused the guides and facility staff of racism, and that she and her husband had made such a scene, that the underpaid wageslaves there just let her through, with the inevitable consequence that her lardass got stuck the Mailbox passage.

It would have been a glorious story of an arrogant birch reaping her just punishment, if the fact that 23 other fricking poor souls were trapped by the tart, and had to endure her piglike screetching for over 10 hours as rescue workers had tried to dislodge her.

They tried to use mountain climbing cowtools, as she was so stuck that she was like a human cork. Some politician wanted the rescue workers to use drilling equipment to break away stone, and allow her to be clipped free. But the Cango cave conservationists and staff rebuffed this, as they did not want to damage this national heritage route, or deny future people from climbing through the famous Mailbox, as a damaged passage.

https://mg.co.za/article/2007-01-02-obese-woman-rescued-from-cango-caves/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/168658236638147.webp

https://www.news24.com/news24/liquid-paraffin-frees-woman-20070102

The woman eventually was freed using rock climbing equipment and liquid paraffin - they had to lube up the lardbucket, which allowed the rescue workers to let her slip back out as they pulled her using safety harnesses and cowtools. It was a monumentally taxing operation, cuz you dramatards need to understand that the rescue workers had very limited space to work in the narrow corridors of the Adventure route pathway. imagine trying bring ropes, and crowbars with you through the tight tunnel. It was a nightmare for the rescuers, and the people trapped by the braphog.

https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2007-01-03-overweight-woman-freed-after-10-hours/


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1054456/

Apparently the events are recorded in some kind of series, if any clever dramatard can somehow find this, I swear to god I'll pay 5k dramacoins.


https://www.firefighternation.com/firerescue/unusual-south-african-cave-rescue/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823665046372.webp

The stuck tourists were given blankets and food and chocolate to aid them, as they would basically be stuck until very late at night.

====="Ultimately, it was not necessary to employ power equipment. Two petite female members of the rescue team, equipped with a large supply of petroleum jelly, managed to reach the woman. They thoroughly lubricated her and, with the assistance of a simple hauling system, were able to free her at 2115 hrs.

The group left the caves at about 2300 hrs. The woman was taken to a private hospital in Oudtshoorn for observation. After exhibiting only minor injures, she was released.

The rescue costs totaled 15,000 Rand (just under $3,000 USD).

Despite the ordeal, there was one happy outcome for cave personnel. The cave had been suffering financially due to low visitation. But after the rescue, bookings increased significantly, partly due to tourists wanting to be taken to the Tunnel of Love and shown where the woman became stuck."===== (from the article)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6225301.stm


FINE:

https://www.news24.com/news24/r50-000-to-free-stuck-woman-20070104

The rescue operation would cost taxpayers about 50 000rand.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823666885586.webp

Fricking lmoa. "He emphasised that the differentiation could not be prescribed by weight. Sturdy rugby players, who weigh more than 100kg and who have broad chests, have sailed through the 'tunnel of love'. It all depends on your body type and your mentality. Sometimes, it's a matter of nervous tension. Many people who are fit enough don't want to tackle it because they become anxious in narrow confines." :marseylaugh::marseylaugh::marseylaugh:


It was from this point onwards that the Cango Caves would require tourists to prove that they could move through the Real-live sized mimics at the entrance of the facility, before they would be allowed on the Adventure Tour. A famous euphemism would decorate the entrance hall of the ticket sales booths - "Only Letters, no Parcels through the Mailbox" :marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist::marseylaughpoundfist:


Here is an ancient Caving hobby forum I've found laughing about the event way back in 2007 January.

https://nssmembersforum.proboards.com/thread/433/23-trapped-cango-caves

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823670559855.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16865823669899924.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686582366780557.webp

=========(from the forum - I could not locate the article this post references because of linkrot)

Drama not over till the fat lady signs rescue bill

January 6, 2007

Port Elizebeth Herald

By Cathy Dippnall

Garden Route Correspondent

THE adventure that trapped overweight Veronica Hlabelela in the Tunnel of Love at the Cango Caves in Oudtshoorn on New Year‘s Day, could cost as much as R15 000. But whoever ends up footing the bill, the drama – which was reported around the globe – has meant a huge publicity boost for the tourist attraction with visitors now flooding in to see where Hlabelela got stuck.

Hlabelela, 37, of Durban, was trapped in a 50cm-wide tunnel for over nine hours with 23 other people behind her, including a person with diabetes and a child. In real terms, the cost could be much higher, but government-run rescue services and NGOs will absorb the expenses themselves.

Representatives from these organisations, however, have said the cost of a rescue mission is not something they consider when it comes to saving someone‘s life.

“The government emergency rescue services are run by a province (in this case, Western Cape) and are reliant on government subsidies, which absorb the costs of rescue operations,” said Eden District emergency services spokesman Dion van Wyk. NSRI, which operates as an NGO and which is called out repeatedly to rescue people who have not heeded warnings, also does not consider the financial aspects of rescue operations. “The cost of an emergency is not taken into consideration when a person‘s life is at stake. Our aim is to rescue people irrespective of costs,” said Craig Lambinon, NSRI spokesman.

“Our organisation relies on sponsorships and donations. After we have done a rescue operation, we ask for a donation if possible from the people concerned.” However, the private ambulance service Ambu 911 of Oudtshoorn said they would invoice the Cango Caves for their part in the rescue which took over nine hours, with over 20 rescue personnel from different units being called out.

“The cost is in the region of R10 000 to R15 000, inclusive of all equipment needed,” said manager Anthony Fivas. “We expect the cost to be covered by the Cango Caves‘ insurance which covers emergencies such as this.”

Hein Gertsner, manager of the Cango Caves – which belongs to Oudtshoorn municipality – will meet municipal officials after January 15 to discuss whether or not Hlabelela will have to pay any costs to the municipality. “The final cost of the rescue operation is pure guesswork at the moment,” Gertsner said. “However we have had the best free advertising we could wish for as the news has become known worldwide.”

After a worryingly slow start to the season, numbers at the caves picked up over Christmas. After the incident was made public, the adventure tour was booked out on January 2 and people are still flooding in. Gertsner said visitors specifically asked to go to the Tunnel of Love and wanted to know where the woman was stuck. “You never know – this (the rescue) could just turn us around financially and make it one of the best seasons ever,” said Gertsner.

============ (end of article)

Ironically enough is that this news story would boost the Cango Caves for the nation, as metric shitloads of people would buy tickets simply to see 1sthand where exactly the fat lady got stuck!


Anyways that's all I got, GOOD NIGHT! :marseyminer:

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Introduction

Amna "Moki" Raad Alameri is a female League of Legends esports player from the United Arab Emirates. Having neither the skill nor the charisma to be even remotely good enough to have a career in either streaming or as a professional g*mer, she instead serves as a primer on why the traditional values of Arabic society and the progressive worldview of Riot Games have no common ground. Intertwined with her obsession with the ongoing dispute between Israel and Palestine and a strong transphobic agenda, she seems like a great paradigm for gaining insight into the world of biological women in esports.

Her Socials:

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/iimoki

Twitter: https://x.com/iiMoki

YouTube: https://youtube.com/@iimoki/featured

Instagram: https://instagram.com/amoona_evil/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686442400340636.webp


League of Legends

In case you haven't heard me writing this at least one thousand and one times, League of Legends is a 5vs5 multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA). You pick a hero, select a lane and try to destroy the enemies along the way to their main structure which ends the game. They - of course - try to do the same. MOBAs have achieved worldwide success and are the most played and most watched genre of competitive esports with titles such as League or Dota. To emphasize what I said previously, Moki is not a great player. She's not even particularly good. You see, League uses a rank system to accurately gauge your skills as a player. You win a game, you get points. You lose a game, you lose points. Gain enough points and you'll go up one rank. The rank you achieve in these sorts of games reflects your abilities as a player. Most professional players easily reach the upper echelons (as in Challenger reserved for the best 300 players of the server) without even trying but Moki struggles to get out of Gold - something that currently puts her only in the 25% of players. You may ask yourself why she's even bothering to try to play professionally but neither the female nor the Arabic scene is good enough to be picky to refuse such a perfect drama queen.


It all starts with a team ....

Barzah Esport (her team) made this neat little graphic looking for a female player for their team with very low requirements:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuJy_S3WYAEANH3?format=jpg&name=small

Moki felt that something was missing and added the tiny and barely noticeable term biological before the word female creating a lot of drama:

https://x.com/iiMoki/status/1650820098351874051

Hey girls! We are currently scouting for a biological female ADC(Diamond 4+) to join our team!

What barzah offers:

  • coaching
  • paid contract
  • paid accommodation for LAN tournaments if needed

Server: EUW

DM me for more info 🙌🏻

A transgender player from Vitality's female squad French Bees named Luna "Lilith" Benzerara-Arnoux chimes in and asks the harmless question "A biological female ? O.o" to which our princess replies with

:gigachadqueen: yes

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16864424001138775.webp : Wdym, trans girl are not accepted ?

Yes of course 😂

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16864424001875167.webp Why ?

Becauae biological males >females , in all type of sports and games , and it won't be fair 🌚👍 just like transgenders (males) crushing all the record of the females sports of all kinds 😂

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686442400263833.webp This is a lie from far right to deny life to trans ppl. But It's okay, if ur fragile masculinity can remain untouched

And she further elaborates after being asked if intersex women are okay that "Those are fine because she was born that way from god. Its very rare to find intersex women in gaming tho".

Then again, there were a lot of unhappy people in the replies and it started a lot of slap fights:

https://x.com/Spookxz/status/1651205444101107713

staggering amount of npcs in the comments, cant believe a simple request like this is even controversial

https://x.com/S_Daisy_Chain/status/1650847172420567040

You are currently scouting for being blacklisted from every female tournament and facing lawsuits for discrimation in many countries you'd wish to compete in. Good luck!

https://x.com/Coach_Euphoria/status/1650890284639698951

Worst way to promote equality in LoL e-sports + discrimination over trans community

Hf beeing blacklisted

Room temperature iq detected :marseyxd:

lil bro plays in erls for 10 years talking about "room temperature iq" 💀😭💀

obesity detected, opinion rejected :marseyxd:


... the team is finally here ...

Nevertheless, they managed to find all their players and finalized their roster resulting in this admittedly epic announcement picture:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv3AnDfWIAAyvsG?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Their first real test was participating at one of the Pathfinder tournaments. In case you have no ide what this is, I have no idea either. The description states that the PATHFINDERS tournament series is a semi-franchised competition taking place in the EMEA region with goal to support women & marginalized genders within the League of Legends esports sphere. which basically means it is a restricted tournament for women and non-binary people to enter without getting stomped by turbo neurodivergents normal professional players. Sadly, our noble biological princesses of Barha_Esport couldn't qualify through the open qualifiers leading to a lot of sad tweets from our main character and a lot of hate:

https://x.com/iiMoki/status/1657756871820820481

Its okay 🥹💔… we’ll come back stronger 🫡, gg. time to SoloQ till i lose braincells

#pathfindersEU #BarzahEsport

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwGJFUuWwAATiFi?format=jpg&name=large

this means they got stomped to the point of satire by the enemy team

Their opponents - a mix team with the cute name SeaPandas - enjoyed their victory a bit too much by two players loudly proclaiming trans rights and our hero finds herself in a tough position and A LOT of drama:

https://x.com/iiMoki/status/1657807147311194113 [1.4 Million Views]

Imagine hating on a team in a tournament for wanting to have female players only. Congrats on winning against a full biological female team 👍🏻. Unsportsmanlike behavior from them.

Wanting to create a safe space for females is not a crime, but harassing us on twitter is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwG2zz0WcAAC-HQ?format=jpg&name=large

I think its about time to make this fair for everyone and just have a trans-only tournament away from female tournaments so other female players dont get bullied and harassed like this after losing against biological males in a female tournament.

Males competing against females literally removes the whole point of having a “female-only tournament”. At this point im actually playing in a mixed tournament under the title of “equality for female gender”. No there’s no equality, this esport female scene isnt for us anymore.

What saddens me even more that the females themselves are allowing the males to compete with them and fight for their rights against other females who disapprove of this.

You(some females) are part of the problem, u claim u fight for female rights but u’re not. Ur destroying it.

I never thought i’d ever tweet about this since i’ve always played against trans for 3 years now. but i wont stay quiet anymore after getting bullied by them. “Trans rights?” Sure go and fight for them but dont come into a female space and take it away from real females!

i dont mind competin against any gender,gamin is a loss&win &i dont face any issues wid both,if we lose then thats cuz our opponents r better players.Try to be mindful &not appoint everythin in ur life to trans&trans rights.Them winnin got nothin to do with transrights&being trans

I picked some reactions because this was EVERYWHERE and a total mud fight:

https://x.com/Unicornik97/status/1657813340951924736

I didn't realize it was target at you before you posted it, but seeing it without the context was cringe anyway - it looked as if they were putting themselves above all the other female players.

:gigachadqueen: : Idk what they were trying to achieve by tweeting that honestly. they could have written anything else like i did “gg” or something.

https://x.com/NotFluyid/status/1657820714328629250

:soyjakanimeglasses: : I’m sorry but what’s stopping your team from winning against them?

:gigachadqueen: : Its okay to lose against higher elo players. They were higher elo than us and more experienced. I never complained about winning or lose though. im not upset for losing, this only gives me more motivation to work harder and become a better player. We learn from our mistakes. 🙏🏻

https://x.com/soraliyn/status/1657848502959984640

can u elaborate on how the female-scene becomes unsafe when trans women join

As far as I´m concerned losing against trans women is a skill issue so what exactly do they do to endager biological women by joining tournaments?

Isnt the ultimate goal to integrate everyone in esports?

:gigachadqueen: : I have no issues losing against either female or male. I accept my losses and move on and train harder for next time. It becomes unsafe when the bullying & harassment starts from the trans-community towards the females. And i never bullied them or harrassed them or harmed them.

https://x.com/KitsunessaEN/status/1657895899899764738

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1686442424179425.webp : By saying you want to have a "safe space for females" in regard to a biological female team versus trans female teammates, you are insinuating that trans woman are not woman and are unsafe

And that is a fact

Seems like @iiMoki's got quite the transphobic following

Seems like someone don't follow the news. These biological men have been grooming kids and women every now and then.

https://x.com/Hensch10/status/1657849257913720835

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16864424240986857.webp : Trans women are women, trans men are men. If you lose against a Team with trans women you should get Coaching, Not trying to discriminate marginalized people Or with orher words: Mad cuz bad


... a little war has never hurt nobody ...

To piggyback on Moki's original tweet a couple of her teammates came out of the woods and told stories of her past behaviour. One of these is the beautiful Paradox who shared the story of Moki having an argument with a player living in Jerusalem:

https://x.com/Selina_Paradox/status/1658241356521697283

1. I once played in a team with moki. It was the worst experience i had in a female team. Our jgler was living in Jerusalem where bombs started to fall because of Religious reasons (if you remember). Once in a scrim we heard sirens going off in her background.

2. I tbh was terrified but moki showed no sign it was the other way around. She started to attack our jgler who has no belief in any religion and no part in this war who just happened to live there. To the point where our jgler left in tears having a severe attack.

3. Then later we had a meeting with everyone. I told our jgler she should tell moki to say that we are here to play a game to improve together and it should not matter what skin colour we have, where we are from or what our believes are etc. Its about the game.

4. Moki answered this if our jgler has any regrets cause she said Jerusalem and not the Muslim name. Our jgler said no. Moki then got completely out of control screaming at her being really rude and saying after we tried to calm her down and jgl already left having an anxiety

5. Attack. I quote: what would you do if someone in your team has killed your mother. From that point on it all got out of hands but I can say in a talk from over 2h she could not understand it. We all reported the recording to the org at the time galaxy racer.

6. But instead of doing something they kicked all of us because moki was friends with the managers. And she got away with this bullshit. This experience made me not play in a female team for a long time. And it still makes me incredibly mad and now this shit. Please. Just idk man Idk how she always manages to find a way back but this behaviour is not acceptable and tbh I think she's just truly evil and lives for that type of shit. There should be no room for something like this. Trans rights!

Moki replied with a massive chain of tweets and the situation eventually evolved into a basic she-said-she-said slap fight. I'll spare you the details because it's too long even by my standards but this picture and Moki's reaction are too funny to not include:

https://x.com/iiMoki/status/1658733532091490304/

Continuation for the convo between me and paradox. Later on she decides to send me 2 guys kissing what seems to be an Israeli & a Palestinian [which is totally fake] (i had to censor the kissing for my own reasons)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwUBWhXWIAIxVTK?format=jpg&name=large

She also shared some funny messages she received and this one is my favourite by far:

https://x.com/iiMoki/status/1658890244387741699

Sorry, this was really funny i had to post it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwWP4YZWcAAFxvQ?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwWP4aZXoBESIfC?format=jpg&name=small

It says “trans right” but written in Arabic.


.. and neither have homosexuals.

In one final addition I want to show you guys one example of Moki's incredible pettiness. Sometimes, Riot Games offers certain missions that reward you with useless cosmetics. As it is currently the month of twitch prime or something, the rewards contain a bunch of LGBT-themed emotes which are basically harmless and completely dispensable. Still; Moki wanted these to be removed from her account starting yet another twitter war:

https://x.com/iiMoki/status/1666372627202551809

Riot Games, you’re awesome ♥️ thank you!

incase u guys didnt know, u can submit a ticket to Riot Support to remove the June mission rewards from ur account. i asked them to remove the 2 emotes from my account & also any icons related & they did 🙏🏻

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyAlEcNXsAAn-Dy?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyAlEcLWwAAu7sJ?format=jpg&name=360x360

https://x.com/staehr_lol/status/1666530835355299841

You gotta go outside and interact with real humans some more, if one or two stickers in a video game bothers you this much, it's unreal

:gigachadqueen: : I think you should take your own advice.

Ah true my awfully serious L9 background! Not like I literally went out of my way to remove something soooo oppressive as a couple of pixels in a game. Which by the way, you don't even have to use!!! It's crazy, I know.

https://x.com/sharknateo/status/1666532819504332801

GC D0G (European slang for get cancer dog)

:gigachadqueen: : why do you have 40.1k fake followers? lol… instead of paying for fake followers, you would have been able to afford the items in your amazon wishlist.

https://x.com/blondeonlol/status/1667497887117238272

As you have continued to tweet bigot hate speech, I'll continue to respond about how your religion is a misguided, hateful, fairytale waste of time. Hope you can get some help and grab a book made in the modern/contemporary age.

Even the grandmaster of .pdfiles started to chime in:

https://x.com/Hashinshin/status/1667409145589276674

Are you, like, actually scared of gay people?

40% of American Muslims and growing each year don’t only not hate gay peoples, but actually support gay marriage. There’s 3.5 million Muslims in America.

Just figured I’d say that seeing as how so many replies are trying to justify this by saying “all Muslims think this,”

Literally nothing wrong with this

It’s weird to go to this level of fear over something that can’t actually hurt you ever

:gigachadqueen: : no im not. Am i not allowed to remove content from my own personal account or do i have to ask for permission from the community? A lot of people didnt like the rewards so i made a post showing its possible to have it removed.


Some comments and future work

Generally, professional players and streamers are too scared to talk about the impact of transgender people in female esports as shown in this clip. It's a delicate topic that I'll probably write more about in-depth in future posts but this may be my last post here like ever but I think I'm stopping here. In case you liked this post please do me a favour and go to this profile and press follow. It is simply unacceptable that the best poster here has such a low follower count.

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:#marseychonker:

Ron, 33, Nashville TN

Self-rated 3/10 situation

Personal Life:

  • Falling out with his parents

    • Says father was emotionally abusive/manipulative

    • Has since mended bridges with them somewhat?

    • Asked if he could move back in after getting a remote job, they said no

    • Good relationship with his mother, bad with his father, they are still married?

      • Mother makes 200'000?
  • Debt from early 20s moving out of his parents house

    • Story time about being a boozer - timestamp

    • Was van living for a little while so more money to party

      • Stopped in late 2019 early 2020 :marseythinkorino:
  • Addicted to Mountain Dew timestamp

    • Goes through 2 a day, doesn't buy from stores, just from gas stations or dunkin donuts?

    • "If it's a bad day I will go and get more"

  • "Do you have diabetes?" timestamp

    • "Not that I know of, I haven't been to a doctor in 5 years"

    • Blood sugar test timestamp

      • "I don't have diabetes by the way I just have all medical equipment possible because I'm afraid of something going.. bad"

      • New Caleb lore - he is terrified of needles and blood plus is some sort of paranoid

      • Apparently he does not have diabetes?

  • Brother had addiction stuff as well? (marijuana and alchy)

Career:

  • Tried to apply for real jobs out of school, never got callbacks :marseythinkorino:

  • Call center 40 hour week

    • $18 an hour
  • Starting a second job in a couple weeks

    • Variable, $18.50 after 5, $20 weekends

    • Also 40 hours?

    • Call center stuff but different from the other call center

  • Some online stuff

    • Runs DnD games online

      • 3 hours a piece depending on how much he needs to prep

      • $600 a month or so

        • 1 game ended
      • Using some site for this that pimps out DMs

      • Made 10k last year from this :marseypikachu2:

      • Runs these games through his phone? "Only reason I bought it"

      • uses Fiverr people to do stuff for it?

  • Got a cat recently, photo shown to camera timestamp

  • His mother gave him 1'300 total last month

Expenses:

  • Mountain Dew:

    • Unreal amounts of mountain dew more than $400 a month
  • Rent $1230

    • Low end, not a great neighborhood, pays for laundry not within complex?

Debts:

  • Discover Card (Card 1) Around $3000: timestamp

    • Had to put car repairs on it?

    • 4 tires and some maintenance stuff

    • Minimum monthly maybe $30? He's not certain

    • 25% interest

    • Had paid off the card with a personal loan years prior to the car repairs

    • Dunkin Donuts - 2 Dews for $4 "That's how they get you" :marseyxd:

  • USAA (Card 2) $7712:

    • 20% interest, $631 lost on interest this year

    • Did not spend anything on there

  • Costco (Card 3) $908:

    • Paid 218 but made 185 in purchases 14 in interest

    • Credit limit of 750

    • Thinks the purchases were all unnecessary

    • 30% interest

  • Car: 2010 Toyota Camry

    • 130'000 miles

    • $5438 left on it

    • 4.99% interest rate

    • Bought right before the pandemic hit

  • Personal Loan $18'173 timestamp:

    • 2 or 3 cards, and the rest of the loan balance of the van he had, has since sold Van

    • $584 min payment

    • originally 25'000

Student Loans:

  • Majored in Business?

  • Southern Hampshire University?

  • $38'900 federal student loans, Probably 470 minimum payment

  • These are why he decided to get a second job

Savings:

  • Checking

    • Gets money from his mother?

    • 26.76 => 5132 - 3918 => 1247

  • Business Checking account for his DnD thing:

    • "Cloak & Dagger LLC"?

Budget Section timestamp:

  • -$1231 between minimum budget and basic survival currently without the second job
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