None
50
Weekly "What games are you playing?" #99: Youtuber :marseypedo: Jank :pepehacker: Edition :marseyreading3:

What are you playing currently?

!g*mers


Previous Iterations:

2025

#1 --- 095 - [06 Jan 2025] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #95 -- RWBY

#2--- 096 - [12 Jan 2025] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #96 -- lc

#3--- 097 - [17 Jan 2025] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #97 -- lc

#3--- 097 - [24 Jan 2025] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #98 -- Ninjjer

2024

I'm aware the dates aren't exactly right but I like to keep things refered to their planned date. They are still weekly after all.

#1 --- 043 - [07 Jan 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #43 -- mayflyalt :marseyblowkiss:

#2 --- 044 - [14 Jan 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #44 -- lc

#3 --- 045 - [21 Jan 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #45 -- lc

#4 --- 046 - [28 Jan 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #46 -- lc

#5 --- 047 - [04 Feb 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #47 -- lc

#6 --- 048 - [11 Feb 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #48 -- lc

#7 --- 049 - [18 Feb 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #49 -- lc

#8 --- 050 - [25 Feb 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #50 -- lc

#9 --- 051 - [03 Mar 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #51 -- lc

#10 --- 052 - [10 Mar 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #52 -- lc

#11 --- 053 - [17 Mar 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #53 -- Ninjjer :marseyloveyou:

#12 --- 054 - [25 Mar 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #54 -- lc

#13 --- 055 - [7 Apr 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #55 -- Ninjjer

#14 --- 056 - [14 Apr 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #56 -- Ninjjer

#15 --- 057 - [21 Apr 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #57 -- Ninjjer

#16 --- 058 - [28 Apr 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #58 -- Ninjjer

#17 --- 059 - [5 May 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #59 -- RWBY

#18 --- 060 - [12 May 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #60 -- Ninjjer

#19 --- 061 - [12 May 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #61 -- Ninjjer

#20 --- 062 - [26 May 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #62 -- Ninjjer

#21 --- 063 - [2 June 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #63 -- RWBY

#22 --- 064 - [9 June 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #64 -- RWBY

#23 --- 065 - [16 June 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #65 -- Ninjjer

#24 --- 066 - [23 June 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #66 -- Ninjjer

#25 --- 067 - [30 June 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #67 -- Ninjjer

#26 --- 068 - [7 July 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #68 -- Ninjjer

#27 --- 069 - [14 July 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #69 -- Ninjjer

#28 --- 070 - [21 July 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #70 -- Ninjjer

#29 --- 071 - [28 July 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #71 -- Ninjjer

#30 --- 072 - [4 Aug 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #72 -- Ninjjer

#31 --- 073 - [11 Aug 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #73 -- Ninjjer

#32 --- 074 - [18 Aug 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #74 -- Ninjjer

#33 --- 075 - [25 Aug 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #75 -- Ninjjer

#34 --- 076 - [1 Sept 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #76 -- Ninjjer

#35 --- 077 - [8 Sept 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #77 -- Ninjjer

#36 --- 078 - [15 Sept 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #78 -- Ninjjer

#37 --- 079 - [22 Sept 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #79 -- Ninjjer

#38 --- 080 - [29 Sept 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #80 -- Ninjjer

#39 --- 081 - [6 Oct 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #81 -- Ninjjer

#40 --- 082 - [13 Oct 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #82 -- Ninjjer

#41 --- 083 - [20 Oct 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #83 -- Ninjjer

#42 --- 084 - [27 Oct 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #84 -- Ninjjer

#43 --- 085 - [03 Nov 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #85 - - Ninjjer

#44 --- 086 - [10 Nov 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #86 - - RWBY

#43 --- 087 - [17 Nov 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #87 - - Ninjjer

#44 --- 088 - [24 Nov 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #88 - - Ninjjer

#45 --- 089 - [1 Dec 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #89 - - Ninjjer

#46 --- 090 - [8 Dec 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #90 - - Ninjjer

#47 --- 091 - [15 Dec 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #91 - - Ninjjer

#48 --- 092 - [22 Dec 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #92 - - Ninjjer

#49 --- 094? - [29 Dec 2024] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #94 - - Ninjjer

2023

I'm aware there are previous weekly or so megathreads and I'll eventually add them ( green = official, red = fake, yellow = misc, blue = losercel)

#0 - [22 Jan 2023] - some1 should make weekly vidya threads marseytf2spy

#1 - [28 Jan 2023] - Weekly "Whatcha Been Playing" Thread #1

#2 - [4 Feb 2023] - Weekly "Whatcha Been Playing" thread #2

#3 - [11 Feb 2023] - Weekly Gaming Thread #3

#3.5 - [13 Feb 2023] - [Weekly Gaming Thread 2] You will own no NFTs of video game microtransactions and you will be happy edition-- dramamine

#4 - [18 Feb 2023] - Weekly 'What're You Playing?' thread #4

#4.5 - [20 Feb 2023] - Welcome to the new weekly vidya thread! Week 1 - 2/20/23 -- robotron2084

#5 - [25 Feb 2023] - Weekly "What're You Playing" Community Thread #5

#5.5 - [2 Mar 2023] - So, what do you dipshits play all day? -- horned waifu shill

#6 - [4 Mar 2023] - Weekly 'What're You Playing' Thread #6

#7 - [11 Mar 2023] - Weekly 'What're you playing?' thread #7

#8 - [18 Mar 2023] - Weekly 'What're you playing?' Thread #8

#9 - [25 Mar 2023] - Weekly 'What're You Playing?' thread #9

#10 - [1 Apr 2023] - Weekly 'What are you playing?' Thread: #10: Whooaaaa Those are some HILARIOUS patch notes edition

#11 - [8 Apr 2023] - Weekly 'What are you playing' Thread #11

#12 - [15 Apr 2023] - Weekly 'What are you playing' thread #12

#13 - [23 Apr 2023] - What're you playing thread #idk

#14 - [29 Apr 2023] - Weekly 'What Are You Playing' thread #14

#15(1) - [6 May 2023] - Weekly 'What're you playing?' thread #15

#15(1).5 - [10 May 2023] - marseyg*mer Gaming Thread - What are you playing this week? -- cynic

#15(2) - [13 May 2023] - Weekend 'What've you been playing?' Thread #15 -- he fricked up the ordering here I'll just go with it

#16 - [20 May 2023] - Weekly "What Are You Playing?" Thread #16

#16.5 - [28 May 2023] - Weekly "What are you playing" thread -- carp

#17 - [3 Jun 2023] - Weekly "What have you been playing?" Thread #new one

#18 - [10 Jun 2023] - Weekly "What are you playing" thread #18

#19 - [17 Jun 2023] - Weekly 'What're You Playing' thread #19!

#20(1) - [24 Jun 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are you Playing?' Thread #20: Modern Warfare III

#20(2) - [1 Jul 2023] - Weekly 'What're you playing?' Thread #20: Summer Salestice -- same reason as above

#21 - [10 Jul 2023] - Weekly 'What're you playing?' Thread #21: loli_esports forgot got chudded edition -- basad

#23 - [15 Jul 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing?' thread #I think it's actually 23 -- should be 22 but I'll go with his ordering

#24 - [22 Jul 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing?' thread #24: Lot of stuff coming out all of a sudden, feels like

#25 - [29 Jul 2023] - Weekly 'What games have you been playing' thread #25

#26 - [5 Aug 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing' thread #26

#27 - [12 Aug 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing' thread #27

#28 - [19 Aug 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing' thread #28

#29 - [26 Aug 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing' thread #29

#30 - [2 Sep 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing' thread #30

#31 - [9 Sep 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing' thread #31

#32 - [16 Sep 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing' thread #32

#33 - [23 Sep 2023] - Weekly 'What Games Are You Playing' thread #33

#34 - [30 Sep 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread # 34

#35 - [7 Oct 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #35

#36 - [27 Oct 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #36 -- tulpa

#37 - [26 Nov 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #37 -- losercel

#38 - [03 Dec 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #38 -- losercel

#39 - [10 Dec 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #39 -- losercel

#40 - [17 Dec 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #40 -- losercel

#41 - [24 Dec 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #41 -- losercel

#42 - [31 Dec 2023] - Weekly "What games are you playing" thread #42 -- losercel


Other rDrama vidya content

Controversial Opinions

Recs

Contests and Surveys

GOTY Discussions

Official Servers:

Dwarf Fortress Saga

Rdrama's /h/kappa hole.

Fighting Games, Drama and Esports.

@Redactor0's Darklands Series

1 - Darklands LP Part I

2 - Darklands LP Part II: Charles Bronson Edition

3 - Darklands LP III: Nuns and Coins

4 - Darklands LP Ep IV: Introduction to Equipment & Combat

5 - Darklands LP Part V: We finally briefly go out into the dark lands

6 - Darklands LP VI: We actually start a quest!

7 - Darklands LP VII: We reach our destination :marseycrusader:

8 - Darklands LP VIII: Raubritter confrontation & learning how combat works

9 - Darklands LP IX: I'm not giving you my goddarn alchemical materials

10 - Darklands LP X: We actually do some alchemy!

11 - Darklands LP XI: The Main Plot

12 - Darklands LP XII: Halloween Edition

13 - Darklands LP XIII: Detour

14 - Darklands LP XIV: Another Detour

@YappingCat's Dawn of Civilization LP

1 - Part 1 :marsey300:

2- Part 2 :marseymarmotroman:

3 - Part 3 :marseypope:

4 - Part 4 :marseybarbarian:

5- Part 5 :marseycrusader:

6 - Part 6 :marseyluther:

7 - Part 7 :marseypilgrim:

8 - Part 8 :marseyoldguard:

9 - Part 9 :marseyreich:

10 - Part 10 :marseycruisemissile:




Last week's game: Satisfactory = (10*2+9*1+8*7+7*5+6*7+5*2+4*1+3*0+2*0+1*0)/(2+1+7+5+7+2+1+0+0+0) = 7.04

All Previous Games:



Game to Discuss?

Goat Simulator. I truthfully forgot about this game from the moment I last closed it (around 7 years ago) til about a week ago, when I'd forgotten whatever it was I'd originally wanted to say about Satisfactory. I have just under an hour of play time, representing a single playing session, and half-memories of the madcap mixture of genres, outright bugs, "bugs," and attempts at humor which probably come off as dated, even to the erudite and learned rdrama dot net. I guess there's also somehow a remaster of the game, which is if nothing else an indictment of our culture's inability to make anything new, instead preferring to "remaster" (theoretically) intentionally bad games. Discuss below, and vote in the pinned comment.


Future Games To Discuss

February 9: Synthetik :marseytzeentch:

February 12: Braid :marseyselfsuck:

February 19: Disgaea :cirnopost:

February 26: Bloons TD :marseyezramiller:


carp capy geto ninjjer donger losercel rwby elfy pin please :marseybegging:

None
10
Chuds threaten to r*pe more kids

NMEC plans to comply with DOJ threats. This email was sent out Wednesday night to staff, but it noticeably doesn't mention anything specifically about LGBTQIA+ kids or DOJ, just general compliance with executive orders:

Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) 2025-02-07T05:35:40.961Z
None
20
When the average Dramatard gets the choice to choose his Super power :marseysuperman: :marseyshushing:

None
35
Freezer Spell vs the Patriarchy was removed and Account was given a warning

					
					

How is big sis going to freeze the whole entire patriarchy if she can't even freeze reddit jannies 😭

None

Obviously lib journos having a meltdown and who better else to encapsulate it than Frau https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738268794LrVbH0DsRGAS-w.webp

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/30/angela-merkel-rebukes-successor-for-alliance-with-far-right-afd-on-anti-immigration-motion

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17382687943kr_0KXyPT2tww.webp

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-friedrich-merz-cdu-political-tightrope-far-right-votes-afd-migration-crackdown/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738268794eqyTpNHHx8r5Xw.webp

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/30/germanys-merkel-blasts-cdu-leader-for-cooperating-with-far-right-afd

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738268794hi2Lnv-gTx9Ssg.webp

!dramatards it's over for Communists. For the second time within 40 years, the German Wall has cometh down. Deutschland elections are barely 3 weeks from now.

Total Morbius AfD (stands for ADolF) sweep.

None
77
It's underreported but Trump just nuked Temu, Shein, and the entire droppooping industry :marseyemojirofl:

Maybe American Apparel can come back

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738517533M3fra4m0e3BmEg.webp

None
9
08.02.25

A bit of a lazy day. Spent it with family, the right head is a bit of a failed experiment, I tried to make it blocky

None
45
Odyssey-jack :marsey300:
21
Take notice chuds
None
24
Krauts cave to the Islamic Republic and bans the Iranian crown prince in exile

What did they mean by this :marseyxdorbit:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17388677219kZgxjyRCHiuPg.webp

:marseybooba:

Reported by:
30
Are hardcore BDSM practitioners mentally ill?

A recent discussion I had about AGP got me thinking about which fetishes cross the line into psychological disorders and it occured to me that every Masochist I've ever met has been self destructive outside of their BDSM shit and every sadist I've met has been sadistic outside of their s*x life too so the idea that the whole thing is a LARP isn't very convincing.

Granted, I'm working with a small sample size but the one hardcore sadist I met IRL was a huge bully in his teen years who did all his "roleplay" with severely depressed chicks and also liked hurting people or watching them get hurt for the fun of it outside of his s*x life and had other antisocial traits. He was also into the really extreme shit like crying and bleeding.

I've met several women into it and unsurprisingly all of them had really low self esteem and depression.

Thoughts?

None
139
r/drama made it to Ashley Jones's Monthly Column :marseyletsgo: :taycelebrate:

previous thread: https://rdrama.net/h/slackernews/post/330633/i-found-a-website-uglier-than


In this column, I will discuss the following topics:

-My obsession with dates/years and which decades I love

-Do I enjoy plane crashes?

-Product Review: Hidden Valley Ranch Dress Packets

-Advertisement

-A walk down memory lane: the bloody picture

-I am making websites for those who are convicted s*x offenders

-Recipe of the Month: Blueberry Muffins

-Valentine's Day Gift Ideas

-People want to befriend me? An unexpected invintation -- rdrama.net

-Personals

-Babe of the Month

-Opinions on VHS, CD, DVD, tapes, vinyls, etc.

-Reading a Reader's Palm

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737554704CVakzWDYCroRXQ.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737554705nva2yeuiA2cDEA.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737554706bOfznfZay0uuBA.webp

One day I checked my email and I received three separate emails (along with a few voicemails) from people very enthusiastically inviting me to "rdrama.net". Usually my email inbox is very slow, so to have multiple people emailing me over the course of one day was exciting. The emails I received told me that people were discussing my website on rdrama.net, and I was provided a link to this thread.

Link: https://rdrama.net/h/slackernews/post/330633/i-found-a-website-uglier-than

In this thread, people seemed bewildered by my opinions and blunt honesty, but they were unexpectedly welcoming and encouraging despite this (or probably because of this). I always have a hard time thinking about how others perceive me, since I will admit, I am fairly strange compared to the average person. I lose sight of this since I am me and I am living this strangeness 24/7, so what is completely normal to me is completely unique and new to other people. Sometimes I will say really stupid things to other people in public because I am slightly nervous when talking to people in person, so I have a harder time pacing my thoughts. This means that I sometimes lose sight of "normal" speak and my own internal words/phrases I made up. Once I gifted an acquaintance cookies. She thanked me and said the cookies were good. I got nervous, giggled, and said, "That's great, I hope they give you good mouth pleasure." The term "mouth pleasure" is one I made up to imply something is tasty, but out of context, it sounds completely sexual. After I said that, I felt my face turn red. Another time, I was talking to an acquaintance about delicious food I had just eaten and I casually said, "I one throated that food". The term "one throat" implies you ate something so quickly in one go, "one throat". But after saying it, I immediately realized that term was something I say to myself internally, not externally. It also sounds very similar to "deep throat", so I was embarrassed after I accidentally said that. (I originally heard this term on Impractical Jokers and it resonated with me.) All of this to say, my eccentricities sometimes make me seem more fascinating compared to other people, because other people are very similar to one another and thus, they do not stand out.

Also, someone in the rdrama.net thread was wondering if I was a :marseytrain:. Is it because I use Arch? What about me emanates mentally ill man who shaves his taint? I took great offense to this, because what biological male has a cute face and is 4' 11"? That would be the absolute :marseytrain: jackpot, and if I were a :marseytrain: that had hit such a jackpot, I would definitely have capitalized on that. But instead, here I am writing this and making websites for s*x offenders, sans girldick. Plus, all :!marseytrain:s sound the same. They sound like a deranged Mickey Mouse, and my voice sounds nothing like that. I have a very authentic, biological, female voice. Perhaps you haven't spent enough time watching :!marseytrain:s to know this. I implore you to spend a few minutes educating yourself. Go to https://www.tgtube.com/

Here's an example of me talking versus how a :marseytrain: sounds when he tries to sound like a girl. I've perfectly replicated how these mental basket cases talk via the power of Kdenlive.

Now you can spot a :marseytrain: without even setting an eye on one. You're welcome for the masterclass in how to :marseytrain: spot for blind people.

Overall, I was amused by this encounter because it was a glimpse into how people react when they visit my website and read my opinions. Usually I am completely blind to people's perceptions on these things, since there isn't a comment section on my HTML pages. It was also nice to see a website with a solid and active userbase that is completely separate from the usual r-slurred back-doored NSA Telegram chat, Groomercord group, or other NSA controlled "social media" website. I'm pretty sure rdrama.net uses Lemmy, which is open source (and federated) software that mirrors the Reddit look. If you are opposed to using reddit because you do not wish to start estrogen pills, then using a Lemmy instance would be a better solution for you.

In my case, while I appreciate the kind reception and invitations to rdrama.net, I am not a fan of the Reddit style/form of communication, nor do I tend to use websites that require accounts (withe exception of e-mail and my Peertube).

A lot of the time I prefer to post opinions and share ideas/responses anonymously, as this serves a few primary benefits:

1. No one will agree/disagree with my opinion simply because I said it. When I post an idea anonymously, I can get honest feedback that is not tainted by someone's opinion of me.

2. I generally do not use any website with a profile system. I don't like cliques that tend to come with profile-based websites. For example, on forums you will have cliques, a reputation, a post number history attached to your profile which seemingly dictates your worth. There are too many factors a profile adds that taint a discussion; as now the person is more important than the discussion at hand.

3. I can post something I do not actually mean without someone having the ability to confirm if I actually believe that thing due to my post history. Anonymity gives you freedom to be a completely different person. This allows anonymous posting to be much more fun due to its chaotic nature.

It's important to note that a website page is different from a discussion. While I operate a website where I write my thoughts/opinions, in a setting of discussion, I vastly prefer for ideas to hold value over who said the idea. When identities get involved in a discussion, the ideas can be tainted simply by the identity saying them. Whereas if the discussion was held anonymously, the thoughts and ideas are judged on their own merit alone.

I understand this is unconventional thinking for most people and that I am in a great minority. I personally prefer to operate like this, but I understand why most people do not have issues with profiles and discussions tied to an identity. While I personally do not make accounts on social websites due to my own personal beliefs, I think there is a good chance some of my readers may like this website. I think it's important to spend leisurely internet time on websites that are separate from globohomo ones. I encourage you to at least look at this website out of curiosity, and perhaps join if it's something you like. By having more users interact on such websites, it gives those who were once reluctant to use. Only a few years ago (around 2017) many open source federated websites were dead due to low adoptability since people did not want to use websites with a low userbase. Thanks to those who choose to use them regardless, it has given them more value, and thus, those who will only join is there is a sufficient userbase will now be more willing to utilize these better websites.


I encourage everyone to go and check out the rest of the column! :marseyhappytears:

None
151
:marseysniff: The PhD in why calling people smelly is racist lady told people to stop noticing how Indians smell. Black Twitter bullied her into submission. OR :marseykween: vs :marseytunaktunak:, :marseymayo: most affected

E: The OG Tweet from what I can tell. LMAO that Hanania is somehow tangentially involved

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737493000FuRShL9pNQm8zg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491701f38H1Y3HbLf9HQ.webp

She has learned that the social justice totem pole only allows her to call out some olfactory racism. Other olfactory racism is more equal than others :marseyxd:

Assorted replies

The obvious: lmao you only gave in because they were 🅱lack

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491702C8u3ewAskHsVjA.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491702ebiNvrDIEFPzxA.webp

Truly the best thing to do against a hate mob is give in immediately so they know you're an easy target next time :marseybigbrain:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491702xWQ-DTWxIAA25g.webp

Trump brought back woke mob twitter LFG. Truly a blast from the past!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491702Y9Ucx6E2pxMgoQ.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17374917023kUPr4Fi34WOHQ.webp

I love telling yt to shut up, but not in bad faith!!!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491702NH1J7fVjPMvusQ.webp

Quote Retweets

Summary guy

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491702YUazGTj4pGV2Ww.webp

Person who never logs off considers what grass touchers would even think of this

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491702SW92dLU0jqXQ4w.webp

Calling her a dusty old throwback to when you were immediately supposed to bow to black people who never updated her firmware

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491703j5m8wG2HUcxdaw.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491703bZyqIA0MAHtkqg.webp

Indians are the most oppressed minority online. (But no I will not consider why so many people dislike our group)

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491703cNZIksbE_wEl7w.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737491704SkyjsqoWGgDBFQ.webp

None
Reported by:
  • Grue : No glance, didn't c*m.
133
48 hits an arrogant femoid reporter with the Vance Glance :surewalz:

!chuds :marseyxd:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737961321URAHanlt7J1_FQ.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737961321IlcgX_X17AmAUQ.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/173796132155mQj-9FbrUPhw.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737961321jRTb9vvB-yQ3Ig.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1737961321IrsBELIEVhXOCw.webp

None
30
[🔥🔥🔥🔘🔘] live action of a mild vandalization of a tesla cybertruck

					
					

Most Based Comments

Basedness: 🔥🔥🔥🔘🔘

This isn't mild. This is trashy (347)

The car, you mean? (44)

Basedness: 🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘

Its stainless steel tho, right? This should wipe right off. (33)

What if it's self etching? (3)

Basedness: 🔥🔘🔘🔘🔘

[removed] (583)

TikTok ahh censorship (33)

Angriest Comments

Angriness: 😡😡😡😡😡

Some asswipe that does this to another person's property deserves an butt whipping.Someone is going to get the crap beaten out of them if caught and I'm sure the anti Musk Reddit fricks will scream bloody murder.Also in some states, vandalism of a car that does not belong to you is a felony. Yep, go to prison and have your life ruined because you don't like Elon. (1)

Angriness: 😡😡😡😡😡

Wow. So vandalism is okay with you? Sadly I'm not surprised. Your tolerance is pretty thin. And you scream police brutality when arrested for committing crimes. If the driver had gotten out, and a fight started, you'd be screaming on reddit about how a racist attacked and beat the man. Found out he was .01 percent native American and then screamed it was a hate crime attack. Then protested. Same old same old. (1)

Angriness: 😡😡😡😡😡

I dont think it's a great vehicle. I dislike Elon. Tesla is overrated.But wtf did this guy do to deal with this crap? He's already made the mistake of buying this thing, now he's gotta deal with buttholes who do entitled shit for views?This is just fricking stupid. (1)

Biggest Lolcow: /u/TheDookeyman

Score: 🐮🐮🔘🔘🔘

Number of comments: 4

Average angriness: 🔘🔘🔘🔘🔘

Maximum angriness: 😡😡😡🔘🔘

Minimum angriness: 🔘🔘🔘🔘🔘

NEW: Subscribe to /h/miners to see untapped drama veins, ripe for mining! :marseyminer:

:marppy: autodrama: automating away the jobs of dramneurodivergents. :marseycapitalistmanlet: Ping HeyMoon if there are any problems or you have a suggestion :marseyjamming:

None
None
22
Anyone else think that ai is going to kill everything in 3 years?

I kinda hate rationalists but I haven't heard a convincing counter argument on AI doom.

None
Reported by:
54
:marseydisgustnotes: COMMUNITY NOTED @JimieWhales callout post

This b-word is literally a redditor. Used to extend respect til I figured it out. Basically british bardfinn :pepewtf:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168250F3X3c8NeAJKPYg.webp

Giving away condoms makes us popular :soysnoo:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168251IQJ6rltbN2MEOA.webp

We may not have high speed rail but at least we have rap :marseysoypoint2:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168251UMjlFvBa8Ukg1A.webp

Black people are cool :marseysoyhype:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/173816825146TLHtlt6dXtJw.webp

More censorship please :soysnooseethe:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168251ETpRFIbSrJXf6A.webp

Trump is so dumb he's gonna do this tarded thing bc I don't like him :soyjakwow:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168251QdPktNiadb6vqA.webp

Long covid is real actually :soyjakanimeglasses:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168251wHk6n_jNNyVPNA.webp

What a life :taygrimacing:

This is all from the past day, she literally can't stop poooooosting

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168251CkhEjmvZt5e1ug.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168251dq4pL90khJdaDQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168251P9gSie1edu3GfA.webp

Double digit posts daily for four years. Basically a crack addict. At least she pays aevann's bills :marseyladybugshrug:

Conclusion:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738168250j0LKSB-k9iobpQ.webp

!nooticers !metashit

Community Note by @Impassionata

Reddit émigré calls out other reddit émigré for being reddit; redditry everywhere.

Helpful [55] Not Helpful [5]
Community Note by @Trailer_DudeMonkeyLMAO

arran is a groomercordcute twink :marseybacktodiscord:

Helpful [41] Not Helpful [3]
None
46
Drama political platform

The r here stands for r-slurred btw

None

					
					

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738423529Dh567SKFGNG0ag.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738423529189CesxRCNydMw.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738423529jC8AkEiwGkEvvg.webp

None
19
Trudeau tells business leaders at economic summit Trump's 51st state threat 'is a real thing' : neoliberal

					
					
					
	

				
None
17
:marseycwc: Official Sonichu Plushie Incoming? :marseysonichu:

Something new is coming to the shops. ⚡️💙⚡️ officialsonichu.com/collections/... www.etsy.com/shop/Officia...

CPU Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime (@cpujcwcsprime.bsky.social) 2025-02-04T17:18:03.180Z

skyview

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738791920a4IFjXppoL-7kA.webp

Chris' handlers still haven't figured out how to use the bluesky block features yet like they do on :marseybluecheck:. Probably because nobody actually uses bluesky. Weens barely even try even though chris officially switched there to fight drumpv and elmo or whatever.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738791920q_afxVRfZGcUVQ.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738791920TRLayZWRHg7a1A.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738791921kFhfxOa_zU9rdA.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/173879192163GD5qMWV_VhNQ.webp

20
I'm tired of having to get up to piss at night

It's always at least twice. I guess I'm getting old.

None

Greetings Dramatards :marseywave2:

In 1987, the SAL (Suid-Afrikaanse Lugdiens), or the SAA (South African Airways), operated a small fleet of Boeing 747-200 Combi variants, for its international flights. Boeing was at its peak, and the 747 was one of the worlds most infamous and popular commercial aircraft ever produced.

One of these Being 747-200s was the "Helderberg", which operated often between the Johannesburg Jan Smuts airport (now modern day O. R. Tambo International Airport), and various international destinations.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333567CUsPByTtwjX4rA.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333567hbYz2CEMsprBQw.webp

On the fateful day of 28 November 1987, an uncontrollable catastrophic fire broke out in the cargo area of the 747-200 Helderberg. At some unknown point this fire caused, the breaking and snapping the airplane in half, and the airplane to drop like a stone into the Indian Ocean, a distance away from the Island off of Mauritius.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333567dAZeaEVgt3Czjw.webp


INTRO: INCONCLUSIVE INVESTIGATIONS AND CONSPIRACIES

"An extensive salvage operation was mounted to try to recover the aircraft's flight recorders, one of which was recovered from a depth of 4,900 metres (16,100 ft)." But due to the inconclusive findings on the cause of the fire, events would lead to conspiracy theories, due to the political tensions between the Apartheid-regime and the rest of the world's Western democracies, and between the 1st and 2nd world during the Cold War.

There was (among radicals the) belief that the Union of SA regime had conspired to assassinate one of the passengers for being a severe critic of the Apartheid government, although who specifically amongst the 159 dead onboard, was supposed to have been singled out for assassination, was never specified aptly or elaborated by conspiracies.

On the other hand, the Bureau of State Security (BOSS), the SA equivalent of the CIA and NSA rolled into one ominous organization, was a very powerful and secretive mechanism of the Union regime, which enacted counter-insurgencies, imprisoned high-level ANC and communist members, and was known to ACTUALLY have assassinated political dissidents during the High Apartheid era.

Additionally, the incredible blanket of secrecy and censorship against media and journ*lists at the time, constantly beget conspiracies or distrust against the Apartheid government, even and ironically ESPECIALLY, amongst the white minority it served to uphold as the dominant class, who themselves began to distrust their own government less and less. By 1987, the year in which the crash took place, the walls were also closing in for the Union regime, and there was already widespread open talk of Apartheid ending, or possible Civil War building, as sanctions had crippled the regime and brought it to its knees. Additionally, the Soviet Union was busy imploding - and with it, the arch-enemy, and external threat the regime had justified for the past 40 years, to enable it to curb the rights and freedoms, of blacks, and ironically whites of the nation state as well, as justification for the regime's existence.

:marseycommunist: :commietrollbait: :marseysputnik: :marseytrotsky:

Lastly, and why I go on this long tangent, to explain why this particular crash was fuel for distrust of the government, and why it played such a large role in the late 1980s zeightgheist for conspiracy (at least for the SA whites), was that just 2 years before in 1985, Angolan Communist forces had utterly humiliated the Union of South Africa by parading captured POWs in front of the international world audience!


https://rdrama.net/post/228216/marseyflagsouthafrica-1985-south-african-recces-special

I made a Longpost about it a year ago. But the context is that the public trust (of whites) in the Apartheid-regime and the Union of SA government had been permanently shattered. It was a Watershed-moment, similar in theme as the public trust of yanks being shattered in their government, when the Tet Offensive contravened the Military/Politician narrative that the US Forces were close to defeating communist forces in Vietnam. In 1985, during the long long Angolan-SA :marseyflagsouthafrica: :!marseyflagangola: Borger Bush War (which primarily occurred on the northern border of Namibia :!marseyflagnamibia: which was part of the SA Union), young men of RECCES (the South African Special Forces; equivalent to Delta Forces), had been captured during a really stupid and unlucky moment during a highly classified covert operation, in which they were operating behind enemy lines in Angola.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333567aIkkjOGQnKRXVw.webp

The RECCE men were disgorged from a submarine under the cover of night, and made their way into enemy territory in Angola, under pitch darkness. Only to discover to their horror the next morning, that they had camped in an empty field; what they had though was a dense jungle, was in reality nothing but an island of dense plant growth within a sea of flat grass and crops. And their boot tracks upon the night dew had been discovered almost fricking immediately, leading to their capture.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333567KZ9zNg9kOA6R5A.webp

After a brutal firefight, the survivors would be paraded by the Angolans on international TV, embarrassing :!marseycry2: :!ashamed: the SA government who had denied the presence of SA forces inside Angola, to the world at the UN, and more importantly their own citizens, while also shattering the trust white Safricans had in the regime. Combined with the coming home of crippled and wounded white young men from the Angolan border all the time, where they were forbidden from even telling their families where they lost their limbs, with the government lying about the perpetual expanding of operations, there was growing discontent.


In this context, it can be more easily understood why this specific Airplane crash, in this specific unique moment in time, would cause such consternation, when compared to the rest of the world's plane crashes, where the circumstances were comparatively benign.

But the distrust towards the Apartheid regime was so extreme, that many rejected the inconclusive findings of Flight SA295's crash and/or cause of the fire in the cargo area, which led to speculation or conspiracies that the government had planted bombs or incendiary devices to scuttle the plane during its vulnerability over the Indian Ocean, as part of an elaborate assassination attempt.

And to be clear these conspiracy theories weren't just the usual UFO nutjobs :!marseyschizowall: :!marseytinfoil2: :!marseytinfoil3: :!marseyjones: and allegations were so extreme, to the extent that even the ANC TRC (Truth-and-Reconciliation-Commission), a Commission which investigated Apartheid crimes in 1994-1996 under the Nelson Mandela administration, that they reopened the crash-investigation a near decade later, because so many of the dead passengers relatives disbelieved the government investigation from back in 1987, and had petitioned for the new liberal order, to reopen the investigation!


THE EVENTS:

https://tailstrike.com/database/28-november-1987-south-african-295/

====(from tailstrike article)

Flight 295, called the Helderberg and flying in the aircraft livery and colours of South African Airways, took off from Chiang Kai Shek International Airport (now known as Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport), on a flight to Johannesburg via Mauritius. Dawie Uys served as the captain of the crashed flight.

Flight 295 had 140 passengers and six pallets of cargo on the main deck. The master waybills stated that 47,000 kilograms (100,000 lb) of baggage and cargo were loaded on the plane. A Taiwanese customs official performed a surprise inspection of some of the cargo; he did not find any cargo that could be characterized as suspicious. :!marseychudnotes:

At some point during the flight, a fire :!marseyflamewar: :!marseyflamewar: :!marseyflamewar: developed in the cargo section on the main deck. The crew's checklist advised the crew to initiate recirculation of the air in the cabin and to open the cabin doors to let toxic gases out of the aircraft. However, the checklist operated under the assumption that the fire had been extinguished.

Since the fire was probably never extinguished prior to impact, the recirculation fed :!marseyshisha: :!marseysmokealarmbeep: smoke and toxic gases to passengers, and the opening of the door allowed in oxygen that fed the fire. A crew member went into the cargo hold to try to fight the fire, but he left behind a charged fire extinguisher either because he could not access the fire, or because it was too hot to stay in the hold. Investigators later found molten metal on the fire extinguisher. :!marseyfine:

At 23.49h the crew reported Mauritius Approach control they had a fire on board. An emergency descent to FL140 was carried out. Mauritius ATC cleared the aircraft to FL50, followed by an approach clearance. The captain's response was the last radio contact with SA295. The aircraft had somehow lost control, broke up and crashed into the Ocean. :!marseyplanecrash:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17363335677Un3uGK16qCMYA.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333567GzGjx0rri0E-BQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333567jFmLk-AZmDEI4Q.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333568V38Fjc8uGr64pw.webp

====(end tailstrike)

After communication with Flight SA295 was lost for thirty-six minutes, after midnight, air traffic control at Plaisance Airport (Mauritius) formally declared an emergency.

The investigation by South African authorities had concluded that the fire :!onfire: :!onfire: :!onfire: began to destroy the aircraft's important electrical systems, resulting in loss of communication and control of the aircraft. At exactly 00:07 UTC (4:07 local time), the aircraft broke apart mid-air, the tail section breaking off first, due to the fire beginning to burn the structure of the aircraft, and crashed into the Indian Ocean, about 134 nautical miles (154 mi; 248 km) from the Plaisance airport.

Other theories given for the ultimate demise of the aircraft were that the flight crew eventually became incapacitated by the smoke and fire or extensive damage to the 747's control systems rendered the plane uncontrollable before it hit the ocean.


LONG FLIGHT:

Now one thing peeps need to know is that commercial Airplanes don't always like flying over oceans, as they tend to be actually more dangerous to land on land. Thus, many international flights prefer to hop over land stops, even on a detour for international flights. Typically an international flight would prefer to fly across Egypt, then towards South Africa, and avoid flights over large bodies of water, like the Indian Ocean.

But in 1987, South Africa was a Pariah State, and suffering Sanctions from like half of all members of the United Nations, including the majority of Western Liberal Democracies, and significantly, the majority of African states, which by this timeframe had decolonialized and obtained independence from their Eurocuck overlords, and most of whom were Subsaharan black peeps, not too pleased with the maltreatment black people received in the segregated Nation State of the Union of South Africa, and thus forbade trade, diplomacy or even the landing of aircraft in their airports, or the docking of ships at their docks. :!marseyindignant: :!marseyindignant: :!marseyindignant:

Thus, for international long-distance flights, to far away places like Japan and East Asia, Safrican commercial airplanes, were pretty much forced to fly across the Indian Ocean

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333568TNzJkfX4YQVccQ.webp

The makeup of the passengers included South Africans returning home, as well as Japanese, Taiwanese and some Australians.

https://www.key.aero/article/flying-springboks-great-detour

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333569kgV36cA0g0WOLA.webp


FLIGHT RECORD:

https://asn.flightsafety.org/asndb/326653

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333568iqZ_INO3iR0smQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333568OSP6jAP_Qthskg.webp

Now the reason why the type of airplane of SA295 or Helderberg was mentioned, namely the Boeing 747-200 Combi, was to illustrate the makeup of the plane. The Boeing 747-200 Combi consisted of a passenger area (the 1st 2/3rd of the airplane), and a cargo area (the last 1/3rd of the airplane). The fire would start at some place within the cargo area, away from human eyes, which is why it took longer than average for the crew to identify where exactly the fire was originating from, when the cockpit fire-alarm warnings began to be activated.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333568Xqw9KGUCumcogg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333568g0CwQKaTlkAZKg.webp

Picture of reconstruction of the airframe as by the Investigation Report.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333569FZrONlwsswEJUA.webp

In the flight recorder, it could be heard that the cockpit crew become surprised when fire-warning alarms rang out of nowhere, several hours prior to the last contact and crash of the plane. The strain in the pilot's voices could be heard :!marseysweating: :!marseysweating: :!marseysweating: as this unholy nightmare scenario was one of the worst possible things to experience, for an airplane midway over an ocean.

The pilots desperately pulled out their manual checklists to determine the origin and cause of the fire-alarm. This might seem stupid to us laypeople, but apparently locating a fire source is especially difficult, as the idea is to do so well before it can do any damage, and fires on a commercial airplane can occur in many of the nooks-and-crannies of a vast aircraft like the 747.

In these flight recordings the sound of more circuit breakers popping (I don't know what precisely that means - i presume warning circuits to show electric flow between systems have ceased), and the pilot can be heard swearing in Afrikaans & English: "Dis die feit that albei fokken afgegaan het, wat my versteur" / "It's the fact that both turned off at the same time, which disturbs me"

These circuit breakers going off one after the other indicated that electrical wires were being eaten by flames somewhere in the airplane, and the horror of this comprehension could be heard in the voices of the pilots. The alarms did indicate that the fire was occurring within the cargo area, however.

But the real gal of this event! Was that some of the very wires the fire was busy eating, was that of the flight-recorder itself, which would only exacerbate the conspiracy and mystery of the events of Flight SA295. :!marseybeanannoyed: :!marseybeanannoyed: :!marseybeanannoyed: :!marseybeanannoyed: :!marseybeanannoyed: :!marseybeanannoyed: :!marseybeanannoyed:


ZUR TAPES:

Now because of the burning of the onboard Flight-recorder, the only audio records we have of the entirety of Flight SA295 was those of the beginning of the Flight-recorder, before the electric wires got burned :!marseyplugged: :!marseyplugged: :!marseyplugged: and the interaction of Captain Uys and the Mauritius Airport control tower recording, when Captain Uys requested a declaration of emergency, and the subsequent complete radio silence less than an hour later.

https://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=261611

However in South Africa, in Johannesburg, South African Airways, also operated an International Radio Station called ZUR (frustratingly I could not locate any explanation for the acronym), which kept track of all of the South African Airways planes around the planet. The reason for this?

Remember when we talked about how South Africa was a Pariah State? And how they basically had to skirt the airspace of most of Africa, and many Western Democracies? Well ZUR allowed SAA to keep track of its fleet of aircraft, and direct them if problems or emergencies arose. It was only one of 2 Nation States on earth which provided such a service - the other being Bongland's British Airways.

WELL GUESS WHAT :!marseytrollcrazy: :!marseytrollcrazy: :!marseytrollcrazy:

The ZUR tape-recorders were missing. These ZUR tape-recordings are supposed to run all day 24/7, as the fleet of South African Airways' Springboks commercial airliners travel across various timezones, well outside the waking hours of Safrica, and the communication between the ZUR Johannesburg base and international flights preserved.

The tapes for the ZUR base communications for the night of 27 November 1987 was available. The tape for 29 November 1987 was there. But NOT the fricking tape for 28 Nov 1987 :!marseytrollgun: :!marseytrollgun: :!marseytrollgun:

As you guys can only imagine, it was this discrepancy in the aftermath crash investigation which exacerbated conspiracies, even during the era of extreme censorship, as word-of-mouth discontent and suspicion broiled. The missing ZUR tapes are apparently legendary for Safrican airplane neurodivergents, though that is beyond my own capacity to verify.

Thus, the missing ZUR tapes indicated a sinister cause of the fire.


https://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=261611

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333569fpzyQLzXJ53VCA.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17363335698IMTm29o0hlG0A.webp

Some forum posts by aviation neurodivergents regarding "Two-Fire" theory regarding Flight 295 about 12 years ago.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/helderberg295/posts/10161117563728150/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17363335709gp9dqcJ53uwTA.webp

There's even a Facebook page about SA295

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17363335699m57PwmBeoh0pw.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333570sLEzbLGJwYZJ0w.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333570i9un-iNuIExwiw.webp


CONSPIRACY:

So what exactly is the conspiracy theories exactly about, according to South Africans? Why was there a cover up by those disbelieving the official government crash investigation reports. There are 2 schools of thought.

:#1: Assassination: :marseybackstab: :marseyface: :marseybabykiller:

It's believed that one or some of the passengers aboard the Helderberg were liberals or anit-Apartheid advocates with influence coming to South Africa to stir dissension and groomercord, amongst both black and white South Africans, or were reporters coming to expose more crimes-against-humanity of the Union regime or whatever. This would not even be an unprecedented action by organs of the state like BOSS (Bureau for State Security), which in fact DID assassinate ANC and other communist leaders, often outside of South African borders, because the Apartheid authorities liked to remove dangerous agitators away from SA shores, because they desired the veneer of authenticity.

Using a bomb, or an incendiary device to disguise the assassination device, to destroy the airplane over the Indian Ocean, away from prying eyes, and outside SA borders, would have been the type of methods employed by powerful entities like BOSS.

This conspiracy theory holds less weight amongst other conspiracy believers, because the idea of the SA Government sacrificing about 100 South Africans, and one of its commercial airliners :marseydid911: :marseydid911: :marseydid911: just to kill one undesirable target holds little water, and would even be unprecedented for Apartheid authorities. The reason being is that the white government was neurotic about valuing white lives.

Whist it didn't value black lives at all, the incredible small white population of South Africa, meant that white populations were precious to the government, even the dissidents, and the government Police or even Military police seldom at any point from 1940-1993 ever killed whites, even white anti-Apartheid advocates like Breyten Bretenbach, whom they just jailed or exiled from the country.

https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breyten_Breytenbach

So to wholesale murder 100 whites to silence even an influential detractor (the specific passenger whom isn't even decided) would be outside of the MO of historic regime behaviour.


:#2: Gun-Smuggling :#marseykyle: :#marseygunnut: :#marseygun:

During 1987, due to being sanctioned by basically everyone which mattered, the Union regime was on its knees in terms of the ability to self-sustainably construct domestic products, much of which they could not craft locally, like weaponry.

While South Africa could and DID in fact craft much of their own warplanes, tanks, armoured vehicles and small-arms, they could not do so for everything, and their industries were becomnning increasingly shackled. Thus, according to this school of conspiracy thought, the regime authorities endeavored to smuggle arms even via their commercial airliners from places like East-Asia which were mostly neutral with regards to Human Rights slapfights in the UN :slapfight: :slapfight: :slapfight: and more willing to trade on the black market with pariah states.

The military operations in Angola was bottomless in its thirst and requirements for equiment and ammunition. According to this theory, high ranking government officials, army leaders and South African Airways officials were all in on the conspiracy, and were the ones to immediately destroy the ZUR tapes pertaining to the Helderberg SA295, even under the fear that some of the weapons, bombs missile fuel chemicals, or God alone knows, they suspected were the cause of the fires upon the Helderberg, because the transport of military hardware had to be done under supreme secrecy and censorship.

Additionally, South African Airways would be breeching International Law, as the use of civilian commercial aircraft to smuggle weapons is forbidden. SA was already enough of a Pariah state, and the discovery, or at least proof of such cargo could lead to the banning of the SAA in many countries, or at least it is theorized such would be feared. :permaban: :permaban: :permaban:


THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH:

Now it's important to understand that immediately after the Helderberg SA295's crash became news to South Africa, the 1st theories for its crash had been terrorism, as in ANC or other communist factions had planted a bomb to destroy the aircraft, in a similar way in which the ANC was bombing schools, police stations and courts within South Africa, to pressure the White government to end segregation and begin democratization. It was initially believed that somebody sympathetic to ANC communists, like chinese spies had smuggled an incendiary bomblet into the cargo of the Helderberg. :explode: :explode: :explode:

It was only after the ZUR tapes absence was noted, that the conspiracy theories and public turned hostile towards the South African government itself. :gtfo: :gtfo: :gtfo: :slaynpointing: :slaynpointing: :slaynpointing:

"Rennie Van Zyl, South Africa's head crash investigator, examined three wristwatches from baggage recovered from the surface; two of the watches were still running according to Taiwan time. Van Zyl deduced the approximate time of impact at 00:07:00, around three minutes after the last communication with air traffic control"

"Immediately after the crash, the press and public opinion suspected that terrorism brought down Flight 295. South Africa, then under the control of the apartheid government, was the target of terrorism both domestically and internationally, and offices for SAA, the country's flag carrier, had previously been attacked. Experts searched for indicators of an explosion on the initial pieces of wreckage discovered, such as surface pitting, impact cavities and spatter cavities caused by white-hot fragments from explosive devices that strike and melt metal alloys found in aircraft structures. Experts found none of this evidence. The investigators drew blood samples from two of the recovered bodies and found that the bodies had soot in their tracheae, indicating that at least two had died from smoke inhalation before the aircraft had crashed, and concluded that some of the passengers would have already lost their lives even if the pilots had successfully reached the airport.

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/the-helderberg-disaster-was-this-the-cause-of-the-

"Van Zyl took the voice recorder to the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in Washington, DC, both to show his goodwill and to ensure neutral observers. Van Zyl believes that if he had kept the CVR in South Africa he could have been accused of covering up the truth."

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/32753-south-african-airlines-crash-combi-fire-mystery

Additionally the cargo manifest created at Taiwan could not be trusted by the investigators

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333570uSnnSKw8O3dGAA.webp


DEEDSEA SEARCH:

Finding the black box and voice-recorder was a monumental undertaking. And the lead investigator Rennie Van Zyl, was incredibly disappointed :marseyrain: :marseyrain: :marseyrain: :marseyrain: :marseyrain: when they found the recorder basically contained nothing of the flight log, as it was cut off by the fire basically just when the important action started. And you'll understand his frustration once you realize the magnitude of effort the SA government made to find it.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/fall-of-the-helderberg-the-crash-of-south-african-airways-flight-295-ef6261a01b46

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333570X5XHII3jPaZXYg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333571bkZDZ58WbfSm6Q.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333572t2rWW2TuR41tEQ.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333572tCwyrD1uSReq9Q.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333572tYC8EQhqrrMiLw.webp

"The search area is described as being comparable in size to that of the wreck of the Titanic, with the water at 5,000 metres (16,000 ft) being considerably deeper than any previously successful salvage operation. South Africa mounted an underwater search, named 'Operation Resolve', to try to locate the wreckage. The underwater locator beacons (ULBs) attached to the flight recorders were not designed for deep ocean use; nevertheless, a two-month-long sonar search for them was carried out before the effort was abandoned on 8 January 1988 when the ULBs were known to have stopped transmitting (at the time a ULB had to generate sonic pulses for thirty days)"

"Steadfast Oceaneering, a specialist deep-ocean recovery company in the US, was contracted at great expense to find the site and recover the flight recorders. On 6 January 1989, the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) was salvaged successfully from a record depth of 4,900 metres (16,100 ft) by the remotely operated vehicle (ROV) Gemini, but the flight data recorder was never found."


TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMISSION:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333571CNtDxyUVTbOyFw.webp

Now again to put into perspective just how widespread distrust there was within South African society about the Investigation Crash report of Flight SA295, and how foul play was suspected by both black and white safricans, the conspiracy movement continued onwards for 7 full years, well unto 1993, when democratization took place, and the Mandela Administration took power under the ANC party. And that many of the dead passengers had applied to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) which took place from 1995-1996, where perpetrators of crimes-against-humanity during Apartheid were offered the chance of Amnesty by the Mandela Admin, if they confessed their crimes.

https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/

The whole TRC event is worth its own Longpost, as pretty much everyone was unhappy with the results. TRC could to force anyone to confess, only interrogate officials and was drama-central. Whitoids felt it was commies lynching revenge, and blacks felt apartheid officials got off scot free.

Point is the reopening of the Air Crash Investigation was authorized by the ANC, so it was a pretty seriously considered conspiracy theory!!


https://gist.ly/youtube-summarizer/flight-295-the-mystery-of-south-african-airways-tragic-journey

In the years since 1987, several pilots of South African Airways had allegedly come forward to claim that they were aware of South African airways were in cahoots with Armscor, the South African Armaments Manufacturer. Armscor apparently sued the pilots and journ*lists about these articles, but not much came from it as far as I can gather.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333571WJuLrTsRPlYeKQ.webp

They still exist today, and still make weapons for the current government by the way

https://www.armscor.co.za/

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333570I4n4V8QRJL4hAQ.webp


KLATZOW INTERVIEW:

Basically, there was one guy called David Klatzow, who was a forensic scientists who was retained to work on the case by Boeing's counsel around the time of the official enquiry. He deeply distrusted the SA investigators.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/fall-of-the-helderberg-the-crash-of-south-african-airways-flight-295-ef6261a01b46

=====He subsequently criticised the Margo commission for spending an inordinate amount of time looking into "relatively irrelevant issues" and that the commission ignored the most important question, what was the source of the fire and who had been responsible for loading it onto the aircraft? Klatzow believes that there are certain irregularities in parts of the commission transcript that indicate that something on the CVR transcript had to be concealed.=====

=====Klatzow put forward a theory that the fire likely involved substances that would not normally be carried on a passenger aircraft and that the fire was not likely a wood, cardboard, or plastic fire. South Africa was under an arms embargo at the time; the South African government therefore had to buy arms clandestinely. Klatzow's theory postulates that the government placed a rocket system in the cargo hold, and that vibration caused the ignition of unstable ammonium perchlorate, which is a chemical compound used as a missile propellant.=====

Klatzow had argued that Captain Uys would have been in contact with ZUR station and as a SAAF reservist, he would have followed orders from the Union regime not to land the Helderberg at Taiwan once fire had been detected, because discovery of illicit cargo upon investigation of the fire could have led to South African Airways being banned from international flights.

He was the primary guy interviewed in 1998 TRC for the Helderberg.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333571j2Zraks3qTCGOw.webp

This specific TRC hearing was very shit and inept. :marseyjudge: :smash: :marseyaisha:

"Klatzow was invited by the TRC to explain his theories and cross-examine witnesses. Unlike most other hearings of the TRC, the hearing into Flight 295 was conducted in camera, and without any representation from the South African Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). Klatzow considered the CAA untrustworthy because it had participated in the official enquiry, which he considered flawed. A number of key aspects of Klatzow's theory hinged on his criticism of the actions of Judge Margo during the official enquiry, yet Judge Margo was not summoned to answer any of the allegations made against him."

"The TRC concluded that nothing listed in the flight manifest could have caused the fire, a conclusion that was met with controversy within the public." :marseytroll: :marseytroll: :marseytroll: :marseytroll: :marseytroll: :marseytroll: :marseytroll:

Basically it all went fricking nowhere, and everybody was upset. The former judges and investigators were upset, because they literally weren't invited to even stand in for their actions. The families were upset because they were cucked.


Here's the original transcript which TRC commission (alongside video tapes of the interviews) was pressured by the public to release in 2000, because the answers and the TRC's conclusions were so unsatisfying. It's very :marseyyawn: :marseyyawn: :marseynothingburger: boring, and in my personal opinion mostly conjecture, which is probably why the TRCtards wanted to get on with other much juicier apartheid fish to fry.

https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/documents/special/helderberg/56321.htm

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333571v0lFqv_DXEM61A.webp


END:

And uhhh, that's pretty much it, the mystery is still pretty much unsolved, and the majority of the families decry the findings of the original Air Crash investigation and that of the TRC. Of course most accusations are in fact still hearsay, and the mundane reality is that the Helderberg crash could in fact have been due to unfortunate circumstances rather than conspiracy.

Some pictures.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333572nr7b-1iJrNzzJw.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333572N1-StJi5x5y0Bw.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/1736333572fq6w3EUdsjPfjg.webp


!africans

11
Redditgender

Now playing: Aquaduct Assault (Tropical Freeze).mp3

Link copied to clipboard
Action successful!
Error, please refresh the page and try again.